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clown #2 is down - also beta/clinic question

I feel down today ladies.

I was testing out my trigger with cheapies (I know from past experience that it tends to stay in my system a long time - longest being 12dptrigger.) 

Yesterday AM(4dp5dt and 11dptrigger) I added a FRER in the mix and had a decent but light 2nd line. Which made me in a good mood all day, but still wondered if it was the trigger. Googled all day long. Took another test yesterday evening. Cheapie blank and FRER lighter line but still there. Mind says diluted pee or trigger weakening. This morning. Line nearly gone on FRER. Basically stark white, same on cheapie. Cue feeling down.

Mew. Crying I hate IF, I hate testing out triggers and getting my hopes up, I hate the roller coaster the most I think, more than the cost, more than the shots or anything physical.

I know it's still "early"  and there's still time to change this ship around but I think I need to wallow for a bit today.  

Q: For your clinic, do you know what they want your beta # to be at the first draw?


BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
TTC #1 since 1/10
DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

Our lil' lost sparks:
5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

Moving on to IVF.

IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
We are so in love with her.

"I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

Everybody is welcome!!!

Re: clown #2 is down - also beta/clinic question

  • Also I'm hopped up on hormones so forgive my tantrum, please.
    BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
    TTC #1 since 1/10
    DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

    Our lil' lost sparks:
    5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
    8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
    8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
    4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

    Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
    RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

    Moving on to IVF.

    IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

    Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
    IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
    FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
    Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

    After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
    We are so in love with her.

    "I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

    Everybody is welcome!!!
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  • I dont know what my clinic has for a min - but plan to find out tomorow when i go for beta #1...

     

    Im right there with u today. I am so emotionally drained from ALL of this... Tomorrow is the day if we find out if this has all been worth it or not and I am driving my self crazy (see previous post..lol)

    And to top it all off- local radio station this AM when a woman during a "right now" segment called in and said she was pregnant at 27 and didnt know how to tell her parents because they had been going through IF treatments and wanted to make it a big deal - the radio guy goes ... "How at 27 do you need fertility treatments - thats too young!" Yea... well try being 24 and needing IF treatments... IF sucks... 

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    Me and DH - 26years old; IF DX: PCOS, Hypothyroid/Hashimotos(me)
    IVF #1 April 2012- 15 ER (4/13), 13 Fertilized, 1 transfered (4/16), 3 frozen
    Beta #1(4/28)-127 Beta #2(4/30)-301 Beta #3(5/7)-5570!!
    First ultrasound showed 1 strong little heart beat! (5/25) 7/16.. ITS A BOY!
    Brayden Nicholas Born Dec 29 2012 - 7 lbs 10 oz 20 in
    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker

  • imageBzeetyD:
    Also I'm hopped up on hormones so forgive my tantrum, please.

     

    Haha ... EXACTLY  

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    Me and DH - 26years old; IF DX: PCOS, Hypothyroid/Hashimotos(me)
    IVF #1 April 2012- 15 ER (4/13), 13 Fertilized, 1 transfered (4/16), 3 frozen
    Beta #1(4/28)-127 Beta #2(4/30)-301 Beta #3(5/7)-5570!!
    First ultrasound showed 1 strong little heart beat! (5/25) 7/16.. ITS A BOY!
    Brayden Nicholas Born Dec 29 2012 - 7 lbs 10 oz 20 in
    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker

  • FYI, I'm in the same boat. I said I wasn't going to test out my trigger this time (because I was still getting +HPTs 11dp trigger last time and got excited for nothing.) Today is 11dp trigger for me as well and I got a super light line. Maybe the trigger is finally out for you and you'll get your real BFP soon!
    I suck at getting pregnant
    I really suck at staying pregnant
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  • I'm so sorry you are feeling down, you are usually the one holding all of us up with your cheer, I hate to see you like this.

    Yes it's still very early (9dpER) so you aren't out yet!  Hang in there and keep your chin up!

    As far as beta goes, it really depends on how many days post retrieval your clinic does your beta draw.  My first was 14dpER and they wanted to see a number at 50 or above.  Some clinics don't do first betas till several days even later, and the number will typically be higher by then.

    Me:40 AMA, DH:36 0% morph, TTC#1;
    BFP#1 4/2011, MMC 6/2011 11wks Trisomy 13;
    BFP#2 11/2011, CP
    FSH: 17.9, AMH: 2.2
    IVF#1 w/ICSI: ER 4/3: 5R,4M,4F
    ET 4/6 All 4 (1-8A+, 2-8A-, 1-3A) BFP#3
    Two weeks of beta hell = Blighted Ovum
    IVF#2 Aug/Sept: ER 8/27: 4R,3M,3F
    ET 8/30 (1-8A+, 1-6A+)
    Beta#1 9/10: 350; Beta#2 9/12: 796; Beta#3 9/20: 9155
    Expecting Boy/Girl Twins! My babies were born 4/23/13 at 36w1d!

     
     

  • imageMrsNukem:

    I'm so sorry you are feeling down, you are usually the one holding all of us up with your cheer, I hate to see you like this.

    Yes it's still very early (9dpER) so you aren't out yet!  Hang in there and keep your chin up!

    As far as beta goes, it really depends on how many days post retrieval your clinic does your beta draw.  My first was 14dpER and they wanted to see a number at 50 or above.  Some clinics don't do first betas till several days even later, and the number will typically be higher by then.

    Mine is at 14dpER too. Thanks Mrs.Nukem - that makes me feel better. I'm a nerd and try to go backwards from the beta day to see when something "should" show. Torturing myself, I know.

    You have another beta today, right? I hope it goes well.

    BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
    TTC #1 since 1/10
    DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

    Our lil' lost sparks:
    5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
    8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
    8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
    4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

    Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
    RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

    Moving on to IVF.

    IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

    Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
    IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
    FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
    Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

    After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
    We are so in love with her.

    "I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

    Everybody is welcome!!!
  • Hoping and praying that lines pops back up tomorrow! (((HUGS)))
    3 ectopic pregnancies (EDD's 1/30/12-tube removed, 6/2/12-methotrexate and 10/2/12-methotrexate)
    IVF and Natural FET resulted in BFN's and a hole in our wallets
    Natural BFP #4 on 9/7/12 gave us our miracle on 5/18/13
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  • imagerosemary&thyme:
    FYI, I'm in the same boat. I said I wasn't going to test out my trigger this time (because I was still getting +HPTs 11dp trigger last time and got excited for nothing.) Today is 11dp trigger for me as well and I got a super light line. Maybe the trigger is finally out for you and you'll get your real BFP soon!

    Hope our boat sails soon! I've got my FX for you and I'm right there with ya. Thanks lady.

    BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
    TTC #1 since 1/10
    DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

    Our lil' lost sparks:
    5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
    8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
    8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
    4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

    Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
    RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

    Moving on to IVF.

    IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

    Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
    IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
    FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
    Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

    After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
    We are so in love with her.

    "I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

    Everybody is welcome!!!
  • Girl... that was so me last week. I feel your pain and frustration. 

    In my experience - pick one kind of test and stick with it. Suck it up and buy some FRERs. I was switching between FRER, digital and Wondfo. Bad idea.

    I found this calendar extremely helpful.

    https://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/tools/implantation_calculator.php

    Enter your ER date and it will tell you most common day for implantation. Add 2 days and then take a FRER.

    I'm sorry you are in a funk. HUGS! 

    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • imageMelleTX:

    Girl... that was so me last week. I feel your pain and frustration. 

    In my experience - pick one kind of test and stick with it. Suck it up and buy some FRERs. I was switching between FRER, digital and Wondfo. Bad idea.

    I found this calendar extremely helpful.

    https://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/tools/implantation_calculator.php

    Enter your ER date and it will tell you most common day for implantation. Add 2 days and then take a FRER.

    I'm sorry you are in a funk. HUGS! 

    Thanks for the link, Melle and thanks for the words of encouragement. I was remembering your similar post as I was posting mine. So happy it worked for you!

    ETA: That site is AWESOME. Makes me feel much better. 

    Also, I did buy a load of FRERs yesterday and think now that the trigger's gone, Ima ride that train.

    You're the best (and clown #1!)

    BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
    TTC #1 since 1/10
    DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

    Our lil' lost sparks:
    5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
    8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
    8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
    4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

    Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
    RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

    Moving on to IVF.

    IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

    Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
    IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
    FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
    Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

    After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
    We are so in love with her.

    "I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

    Everybody is welcome!!!
  • imageBzeetyD:
    imageMelleTX:

    Girl... that was so me last week. I feel your pain and frustration. 

    In my experience - pick one kind of test and stick with it. Suck it up and buy some FRERs. I was switching between FRER, digital and Wondfo. Bad idea.

    I found this calendar extremely helpful.

    https://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/tools/implantation_calculator.php

    Enter your ER date and it will tell you most common day for implantation. Add 2 days and then take a FRER.

    I'm sorry you are in a funk. HUGS! 

    Thanks for the link, Melle and thanks for the words of encouragement. I was remembering your similar post as I was posting mine. So happy it worked for you!

    ETA: That site is AWESOME. Makes me feel much better. 

    Also, I did buy a load of FRERs yesterday and think now that the trigger's gone, Ima ride that train.

    You're the best (and clown #1!)

    Someone else on here pointed me to it once. As you can see, it is too early for you. Tomorrow or Sunday would be better days to test. Hang in there.  

    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • Awwhh girl!  I wish I could give you a great big hug!  IF sucks and the emotional roller coaster is a b!tch.  I am so rooting for you!  T&P's your way! I hope this funk is just the hormones and it's very short lived!!
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    1st U/S 06.18.12 2nd U/S 06.25.12
    09.24.12 It's a Boy!! ---> Jacob Owen

    Our IF Journey Began: October 2009
    **8 Failed IUI's, 1 Blighted Ovum, & 1 Failed IVF**
    Dx: MFI, DOR w/MTHFR Homozygous A1298C & Hypothyroidism
    03.2012 Lab Results: FSH 6.83 AMH 0.67 TSH 3.8 E2 17
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  • I hate that our clown is down!!! The hormonal swings are awful. One day you are up, the next you are down. Who knows what tomorrow will be.

    It's early. It's hard to see that trigger go away, but hopefully the line will return over the weekend. Today is still early. ((hugs))

    As for beta, anything over 50 at 14dpER is good.

     

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    Beta #1 = 153, Beta #2 = 269, Beta #3 = 675
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  • Why does IF have to be such a mind game? As if the struggle itself isn't difficult enough...Saw your post above, so hope you're feeling better.
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  • Anyone else reading "a clown is down" and find themselves quoting "So I Married an Axe Murderer"?

    We have a piper down!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1dYIWu2ME

    No one? Nevermind. Don't judge me for being a dork.

    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • Sorry girl. I've been down in the dumps too, but it's the weekend! Cheer up girl. I'd take over as comedienne, but believe me you don't want me to quit my day job!
    dx: MFI 0% morph & low count. Occasional Anovulatory cycles.

    TTC #1
    • IVF #1 4/21/12 - c/p
    • IVF#2 8/1/12 - BFP! DD arrived 4/10/2013.

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    TTC #2
    • FET #1 3/18/14 - BFP! DS arrived 11/19/2014.

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  • Awww Bzeety I'm sorry you're down!  You are always the one making me laugh on here.  Try to stay positive - it is early and you still have time.  Sending (((HUGS))) your way and vibes to those embies to get tucked in!
    ~ Me, 30 DH, 32 ~ TTC since Oct 2009 septum resection 3/2010 stage IV endo 8/2011 IVF #1 1/25/12, 2 transferred, 2 frozen - BFN FET 2/22/12, 2 transferred - BFN IVF#2 5/12, transferred 3, froze 5, BFP! Beta 1: 151, Beta 2: 282 Cerclage placed @ 17 weeks due to shortening cervix, modified bed rest until delivery SAIF/PAIF always welcome image It's a girl! ~ Clare was born 1/31/13
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