October 2012 Moms

Clicky Poll - worse no PNV or alcohol?

Ok since we all have medical degrees here clearly we should be deciding these important matters.

For the purposes of the poll assume:

- No PNV means no prenatal vitamins ever and you eat an average middle to upper middle class American diet (whatever than means)

- Alcohol means you have 1 or 2 half servings of alcohol weekly throughout your second and third trimesters 

Also... I would LOVE if someone could bring actual statistics to this debate.  

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DD 9/15/12

Re: Clicky Poll - worse no PNV or alcohol?

  • This again? They're both fine. I think the issue is not what was said but who said it and how it was said. 
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  • I don't really think either is a huge deal but I am completely uneducated on the exact risks of either so I figure if your doctor is cool with it, rock on.

    Key being - keep open lines of communication with your doctor. 

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  • Thanks for including the IDGAF option!  That's where I fall, at least in terms of what other people choose to do.
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  • imagesassenma:
    Thanks for including the IDGAF option!  That's where I fall, at least in terms of what other people choose to do.
    This! I do what I feel is right for my body and could not care less if someone else takes pnv's. However, I do think its better to take some sort of vitamin because it can't hurt. FWIW, I religiously take mine every day after dinner. If you get into a habit its much easier to remember. Whatevs, that crazy thread went way too far IMO

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  • imagepiffle42:
    I was thinking about doing this but you beat me to the punch!  Some of the argument with the PNV made me wonder how many of the people that say PNV are absolutely necessary are also planning on giving their children all the recommended vaccines, but I was going to give that one a few days so everything could die down a bit.

    I'm sure vaccines will be an interesting discussion once we get there. 

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    imagepiffle42:
    I was thinking about doing this but you beat me to the punch!  Some of the argument with the PNV made me wonder how many of the people that say PNV are absolutely necessary are also planning on giving their children all the recommended vaccines, but I was going to give that one a few days so everything could die down a bit.

    I'm sure vaccines will be an interesting discussion once we get there. 

    We've already discussed vaccinations, at least once, but not as compared to PNV, as far as I can remember.  I'm sure the vaccination discussion will resurface again though, as it usuallly does. Smile 

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    imagedanienross:

    imagepiffle42:
    I was thinking about doing this but you beat me to the punch!  Some of the argument with the PNV made me wonder how many of the people that say PNV are absolutely necessary are also planning on giving their children all the recommended vaccines, but I was going to give that one a few days so everything could die down a bit.

    I'm sure vaccines will be an interesting discussion once we get there. 

    We've already discussed vaccinations, at least once, but not as compared to PNV, as far as I can remember.  I'm sure the vaccination discussion will resurface again though, as it usuallly does. Smile 

    Must have missed it.  You're right though, it usually comes back.  Especially after the babies are born. 

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  • To each their own IMO. I'm sure none of us have made deliberate choices to hurt our kids... And FWIW, we are what some doctors call "the children from the toxic womb" and even though I don't agree and would never do it myself, my mom smoked and drank and I came out pretty healthy and on time ;) 


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  • I missed the original thread although I did go back and glance through some of the responses. I just think it is interesting to note that in the UK a PNV is not recommended as part of a normal healthy pregnancy. You can buy them at the pharmacy and they are not discouraged by doctors or midwives but they are also not encouraged. 

    The advice here (once again - normal healthy mom/pregnancy) is to take folic acid the first 13 weeks, Vitamin D during the 2nd and 3rd trimester and maintain a healthy varied diet. If your iron levels are low then you take iron. There is a lot of focus on a healthy varied diet. If you are really sick in the 1st tri and unable to eat what you need they will recommend the PNV until you are able to eat again.

    Things here are generally way more relaxed. Although I am American, I have never had a baby in the US so I can't fully compare my experience to what is recommended there. Oh, and vaccinations are done differently as well so I will probably have an interesting viewpoint when that conversation does come up. 

    Not trying to stir the pot again (really not trying to!) but thought a perspective from somewhere outside of the US might be interesting to some.  

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  • imagelbaby08:

    I missed the original thread although I did go back and glance through some of the responses. I just think it is interesting to note that in the UK a PNV is not recommended as part of a normal healthy pregnancy. You can buy them at the pharmacy and they are not discouraged by doctors or midwives but they are also not encouraged. 

    The advice here (once again - normal healthy mom/pregnancy) is to take folic acid the first 13 weeks, Vitamin D during the 2nd and 3rd trimester and maintain a healthy varied diet. If your iron levels are low then you take iron. There is a lot of focus on a healthy varied diet. If you are really sick in the 1st tri and unable to eat what you need they will recommend the PNV until you are able to eat again.

    Things here are generally way more relaxed. Although I am American, I have never had a baby in the US so I can't fully compare my experience to what is recommended there. Oh, and vaccinations are done differently as well so I will probably have an interesting viewpoint when that conversation does come up. 

    Not trying to stir the pot again (really not trying to!) but thought a perspective from somewhere outside of the US might be interesting to some.  

    Thank you for your perspective! I do think Vitamin D + a healthy diet (in the 2nd and 3rd tri) is so much more important than a prenatal. It's nice other countries realize this. Do you mind sharing what dosage of Vitamin D they recommend out of curiosity?  

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  • I actually asked my Dr. this week about PNVs because there are some days where I forget to take them.  He said that it doesn't matter as long as I eat properly so alcohol would be worse IMO.
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    imagelbaby08:

    I missed the original thread although I did go back and glance through some of the responses. I just think it is interesting to note that in the UK a PNV is not recommended as part of a normal healthy pregnancy. You can buy them at the pharmacy and they are not discouraged by doctors or midwives but they are also not encouraged. 

    The advice here (once again - normal healthy mom/pregnancy) is to take folic acid the first 13 weeks, Vitamin D during the 2nd and 3rd trimester and maintain a healthy varied diet. If your iron levels are low then you take iron. There is a lot of focus on a healthy varied diet. If you are really sick in the 1st tri and unable to eat what you need they will recommend the PNV until you are able to eat again.

    Things here are generally way more relaxed. Although I am American, I have never had a baby in the US so I can't fully compare my experience to what is recommended there. Oh, and vaccinations are done differently as well so I will probably have an interesting viewpoint when that conversation does come up. 

    Not trying to stir the pot again (really not trying to!) but thought a perspective from somewhere outside of the US might be interesting to some.  

    Thank you for your perspective! I do think Vitamin D + a healthy diet (in the 2nd and 3rd tri) is so much more important than a prenatal. It's nice other countries realize this. Do you mind sharing what dosage of Vitamin D they recommend out of curiosity?  

    Not at all. They recommend 10 micrograms a day starting in the 2nd tri and to continue while breast feeding. 

    No health system is perfect but I have really grown to appreciate the more relaxed approach that the UK system takes towards pregnancy. 

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