I take a little umbrage at this line: "It wasn't worth $18,000 for us to let somebody else raise our son," she said." I don't consider my daycare workers to be "raising my son."
And neither of the women they spoke to earned less than their cost of daycare, so it's not that they couldn't afford to work, it's that they wanted to stay home and didn't feel that making about $20,000 was worth being away from their kids. Which is fine. But they're not being forced to stay home.
You can take umbrage with that comment, but it was her opinion.
Here is what would have happened if i stayed at work:
My baby would wake at 6 so we can get out the door to get to work by 7, I wouldn't pick her up until almost 5:30 because i work until 5, by the time we get home it would 6. We would feed her, bathe her and put her down to sleep at 7. I would have spent 2.5 hours with my child per day, and an hour of that (if not more) was in the car.
And maybe that is where she was coming from when she said that?
Agreed. I work as well and by no means is the tuition I pay for someone else to raise my child...
I however do have friends that have two and three kids and daycare far exceeds their salaries.
I could definitely see that multiple kids would be more than many average salaries. If I'm doing the math correct, if I had 3 kids in DC, I'd be spending about as much as I bring home, and at that point I'd consider being a SAHM (not that I need an excuse to want to!). But, I totally hate when people say DC is raising their kids. NO, day care is watching and teaching your kids while you're at work. PARENTS still raise their kids. I HATE that comment!!
Agreed. I work as well and by no means is the tuition I pay for someone else to raise my child...
I however do have friends that have two and three kids and daycare far exceeds their salaries.
I could definitely see that multiple kids would be more than many average salaries. If I'm doing the math correct, if I had 3 kids in DC, I'd be spending about as much as I bring home, and at that point I'd consider being a SAHM (not that I need an excuse to want to!). But, I totally hate when people say DC is raising their kids. NO, day care is watching and teaching your kids while you're at work. PARENTS still raise their kids. I HATE that comment!!
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I just wanted to say that most parents who have kids in daycare do raise their own kids, but like everything in this world you have some parents who use daycare as a way out of having to raise their own kids.
I have seen this myself plenty of times, these parents rarely spend any time interacting with their kids. Then they blame everyone else when they can't control their own child.
In my case it wasn't that I didn't make enough money it was that my employer absolutely refused to give me any flexibility with my hours/job site when it wouldn't have affected my job or job quality at all to do so. My LO would have been in day care from the time they opened until they closed if I factored in my "mandatory" overtime and commute. At 3 months old. I am sorry, but no. My employer still hasnt found anyone to fill my position ( I quit back in October) so that's what they get. It was such an easy fix to keep a great, hard working employee but they wanted to be stubborn. (basically I was asking for the ability to shift my hours a bit and work the overtime hours from home. I worked in accounting and rarely talked to anyone in person at all so this wasn't unreasonable).
For us, if I had gone back to work, it would have cost more than daycare. I'm in a HCOL area and that, coupled with going up in a tax bracket, would have meant I was working simply to pay for daycare.
I've always wanted to stay home with DS and hope that someday in the near distant future I'll be able to arrange to work part time somewhere just to have time out of the house.
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I tried working after DS1 was a year old (I gave myself a year SAH because he was a premie and for the sake of his healthy I didnt want him in daycare). My entire paycheck went right to daycare (for only 1 kid...now that we have 2 it wouldn't have workied at all) and I didn't see the point of working hard at a minimum wage job (because my college degree has turned out to be worthless) and giving my entire paycheck for someone else to get to spend all day with my baby. In order to have the extra money we wanted so we could have a christmas for DS1, we took him out of day care and he spent weeks at a time with my mother and unemployed sister 2 hours away, when DH and I couldn't coordinate our scheduales around each others so someone would be home with him.
Now if only a portion of my check hnad gone to childcare and I had been able to provide a better lifestyle for my child then I might have stuck it out. Until I go back to school and get a useful degree there just isnt any reason for me to work.
DH is finishing up his master's degree and has a friend whose wife is doing the same thing I am for the same reasons. We just can't afford to work and pay for childcare.
Edit- DH will be starting a job in June where he'll make twice what he is now and it still doesnt look like daycare is an immediate option...so I have to wait to go back to school till the boys are in full day school. We already looked around and it doesnt look like DS1 will be attending pre-school next fall.
I can see for many how it's a tough decision. Might be for me in the near future. I had DD in a home daycare 3 days per week. It was pretty cheap and I didnt mind. I knew that provider before so I didn't need to seek out a licensed facility. Now, I will have DD and DS in 4 days per week full time and then in September, will have 1 full time and 1 part time. This provider is also a home but is slightly more expensive. Ive considered not going back in June but for now, it's still worth it. If all goes well with this pregnancy, I will have 2 kids in full time and one part time. I will also no longer have a vehicle payment by then. IM pretty sure by that point, I might as well stay home.
About paying for someone to raise your kids, I don't think that day care providers raise children but I do think they have a hand in it. My kids spend a lot of hours each day in daycare so of course that person has a hand in raising them.
About paying for someone to raise your kids, I don't think that day care providers raise children but I do think they have a hand in it. My kids spend a lot of hours each day in daycare so of course that person has a hand in raising them.
I agree. Of course when your child spends 8+ hours a day with someone, that person/people will have an impact on your child. I don't think my DS's babysitter is raising him, but I think she is contributing to his upbringing.
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I take a little umbrage at this line: "It wasn't worth $18,000 for us to let somebody else raise our son," she said." I don't consider my daycare workers to be "raising my son."
And neither of the women they spoke to earned less than their cost of daycare, so it's not that they couldn't afford to work, it's that they wanted to stay home and didn't feel that making about $20,000 was worth being away from their kids. Which is fine. But they're not being forced to stay home.
Agreed. I work as well and by no means is the tuition I pay for someone else to raise my child...
I however do have friends that have two and three kids and daycare far exceeds their salaries.
You can take umbrage with that comment, but it was her opinion.
Here is what would have happened if i stayed at work:
My baby would wake at 6 so we can get out the door to get to work by 7, I wouldn't pick her up until almost 5:30 because i work until 5, by the time we get home it would 6. We would feed her, bathe her and put her down to sleep at 7. I would have spent 2.5 hours with my child per day, and an hour of that (if not more) was in the car.
And maybe that is where she was coming from when she said that?
I could definitely see that multiple kids would be more than many average salaries. If I'm doing the math correct, if I had 3 kids in DC, I'd be spending about as much as I bring home, and at that point I'd consider being a SAHM (not that I need an excuse to want to!). But, I totally hate when people say DC is raising their kids. NO, day care is watching and teaching your kids while you're at work. PARENTS still raise their kids. I HATE that comment!!
I just wanted to say that most parents who have kids in daycare do raise their own kids, but like everything in this world you have some parents who use daycare as a way out of having to raise their own kids.
I have seen this myself plenty of times, these parents rarely spend any time interacting with their kids. Then they blame everyone else when they can't control their own child.
Tht said, it was going to cost us more than our rent for one child in full time day care. I think there are a lot of factors pushing women out.
For us, if I had gone back to work, it would have cost more than daycare. I'm in a HCOL area and that, coupled with going up in a tax bracket, would have meant I was working simply to pay for daycare.
I've always wanted to stay home with DS and hope that someday in the near distant future I'll be able to arrange to work part time somewhere just to have time out of the house.
I am living what this article is talking about.
I tried working after DS1 was a year old (I gave myself a year SAH because he was a premie and for the sake of his healthy I didnt want him in daycare). My entire paycheck went right to daycare (for only 1 kid...now that we have 2 it wouldn't have workied at all) and I didn't see the point of working hard at a minimum wage job (because my college degree has turned out to be worthless) and giving my entire paycheck for someone else to get to spend all day with my baby. In order to have the extra money we wanted so we could have a christmas for DS1, we took him out of day care and he spent weeks at a time with my mother and unemployed sister 2 hours away, when DH and I couldn't coordinate our scheduales around each others so someone would be home with him.
Now if only a portion of my check hnad gone to childcare and I had been able to provide a better lifestyle for my child then I might have stuck it out. Until I go back to school and get a useful degree there just isnt any reason for me to work.
DH is finishing up his master's degree and has a friend whose wife is doing the same thing I am for the same reasons. We just can't afford to work and pay for childcare.
Edit- DH will be starting a job in June where he'll make twice what he is now and it still doesnt look like daycare is an immediate option...so I have to wait to go back to school till the boys are in full day school. We already looked around and it doesnt look like DS1 will be attending pre-school next fall.
I can see for many how it's a tough decision. Might be for me in the near future. I had DD in a home daycare 3 days per week. It was pretty cheap and I didnt mind. I knew that provider before so I didn't need to seek out a licensed facility. Now, I will have DD and DS in 4 days per week full time and then in September, will have 1 full time and 1 part time. This provider is also a home but is slightly more expensive. Ive considered not going back in June but for now, it's still worth it. If all goes well with this pregnancy, I will have 2 kids in full time and one part time. I will also no longer have a vehicle payment by then. IM pretty sure by that point, I might as well stay home.
About paying for someone to raise your kids, I don't think that day care providers raise children but I do think they have a hand in it. My kids spend a lot of hours each day in daycare so of course that person has a hand in raising them.
I agree. Of course when your child spends 8+ hours a day with someone, that person/people will have an impact on your child. I don't think my DS's babysitter is raising him, but I think she is contributing to his upbringing.