TTC After a Loss

Thoughts? Slow rising betas, AF, and an utterly perplexed me

I went in for b/w this am because they wanted to trace me down to zero. I'm currently on CD4, AF has been medium to light, but she's Definetly been here. 

Last Wednesday: HCG 9, progesterone 4.5

Friday: HCG 13, progesterone 2.8

Sunday: AF arrived

Today(Wednesday): HCG 40, progesterone 4.5

WTF?!? Isn't that number suppose to go down?  I have more bw on Friday, and an appointment with the OB on Monday ...  But am I looking at an ectopic or could this still just be a chemical? Anyone have AF and their numbers still go up? My OB was very vague and non committal, only insistent that it's not viable. 

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Re: Thoughts? Slow rising betas, AF, and an utterly perplexed me

  • I don't want to freak you out, but that sounds like an ectopic.  This is what happened with all three of mine.
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  • I have no answers for you, just wanted to say that I'm sorry your dealing with this. It doesn't sound as if your OB was very supportive. I'm like you, I always thought that if you got your period, your levels would be zero.
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    The HCG levels seem too low to be ectopic but I would think there is probably some retained tissue. ((hugs)) I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I would call your OB.  

     

    ETA: Sorry didn't realize your loss was so recent. Could be ectopic. 

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  • I want take back my first reply.  It's not that it sounds like an ectopic, it's just that that's what happened with me.  There are woman over on PGAL that had "AF" and are still pregnant.
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  • imageluvmyducks:

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    The HCG levels seem too low to be ectopic but I would think there is probably some retained tissue. ((hugs)) I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I would call your OB.  

    I have to disagree with this.  My 2nd ectopic, at 16 dpo my HCG was 8, then 20, then 49 which would be right about where she is right now.
    3 ectopic pregnancies (EDD's 1/30/12-tube removed, 6/2/12-methotrexate and 10/2/12-methotrexate)
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  • imagedelino:
    I want take back my first reply.  It's not that it sounds like an ectopic, it's just that that's what happened with me.  There are woman over on PGAL that had "AF" and are still pregnant.

    This is what I'm expecting, I appreciate the confirmation that I'm not freakong out over nothing. I have no cramping though (at least I didn't until I heard the numbers. Its like MF only not the fun anticipating kind).  With number like his I'm not even going to attempt for hope that it's anything but non viable 

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  • You're not freaking out over nothing.  This is why they follow your beta to 0.  What's important is that you're being closely monitored.  If it is ectopic, they can treat you with methotrexate.  If they feel it's retained tissue, they will do a D&C.

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  • I have no advice but I am so sorry your going through this.. ((huge hugs))

     

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  • Oh man, I am so sorry about the conflicting blood work. I hope your numbers settle soon and you can move on both physically and mentally. I hope your OB gives you some clear answers soon.
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  • imagedelino:
    imageluvmyducks:

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    The HCG levels seem too low to be ectopic but I would think there is probably some retained tissue. ((hugs)) I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I would call your OB.  

    I have to disagree with this.  My 2nd ectopic, at 16 dpo my HCG was 8, then 20, then 49 which would be right about where she is right now.
    Yeah I did an ETA. I didn't realize she had her loss so recently. Having AF threw me off bc I also didn't realize it was a CP. I was thinking her loss was a bit ago. 
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  • imagePetraStonegirl:

    That sucks. i am so sorry to hear that your beta is introducing more stress and uncertainty to your loss. 

    (((HUGS))) 

    This. More ((hugs)). 

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  • imageluvmyducks:
    Yeah I did an ETA. I didn't realize she had her loss so recently. Having AF threw me off bc I also didn't realize it was a CP. I was thinking her loss was a bit ago. 
    Sorry, must have been replying when you were ETA'ing.
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  • ((hugs)) I hope you get some answers soon.
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  • I have to agree with Delino.  My ectopic were super slow to rise at first and then jumped up out of nowhere after I started bleeding.  Big ::HUGS:: hon.  So sorry you're going through this.

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  • I'm just so sorry you're having to go through this too. Thinking about you still.
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  • I'm so sorry you are dealing with all this uncertainty.  When I had my C/P, one of the things that confirmed it (besides the bleeding) was that my numbers decreased rapidly.  My OB said that with a chemical preg, you will see numbers decline very fast, esp once you start AF.  When I started my AF, it was actually at a 3.  I am hoping that maybe there's some weird fluke going on and that it's not an ectopic. 

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  • I don't have much to offer in terms of advice,other than to tell you I am sorry you are going through this. Uncertainty is awful. Hugs to you. 
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  • imagemeganlconnelly:
    I don't have much to offer in terms of advice,other than to tell you I am sorry you are going through this. Uncertainty is awful. Hugs to you. 

    All of this. ((huge hugs))

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  • I have no experience with anything this, but I'm sorry you are going through it. ((hugs))
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  • I'm so sorry you're going through this. There's not much worse than being in limbo. I'll be praying for the best possible outcome for you.


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    No advice...I just wanted to offer a ginormous hug. I am sorry you are hsving to deal with this.
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  • imagePetraStonegirl:

    That sucks. i am so sorry to hear that your beta is introducing more stress and uncertainty to your loss. 

    (((HUGS))) 

     

    This.  ((HUGS)) 

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  • imageMrsLele:
    I'm so sorry you're going through this. There's not much worse than being in limbo. I'll be praying for the best possible outcome for you.

    This.  Big hugs to you.   

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  • Oh Katharine, I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. I'll be keeping you close in thought.
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  • I am so so sorry that you are dealing with this and I really hope it is not ectopic. I hate that you're just stuck in limbo right now. ((Hugs))
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  • Katharine, I just wanted to say how sorry I am that you are going through this. I hope you get a clear answer tomorrow so that you can start to process all of this. Big (((Hugs)))
  • I really have no info to offer but just wanted to offer ((big hugs))
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  • I am so sorry this is happening again..

    *Hugs* 

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    Coming over to offer more hugs and love. I'm here if you need me. 

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  • No advice, I just wanted to say how sorry I am that you are going through this :(

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