I feel like such a failure and I know that after TTC all this time, that feeling is never going to go away unless I end up with a baby.
Dh has never been on board with the idea of IF treatments hence the 30 months of TTC with no intervention.
But I am thinking I need to do some research on "options" so I can make a valid argument when/if the subject "just happens to come up".
So if you would be so kind as to share your costs I can get an idea of what to expect. I think my insurance covers 50% of SOME treatments but I am not sure.
Thanks in advance!
Re: Ok I know I said I was "giving up" and I still am but can you tell me what your costs were
Well it's fresh on my mind since I just found out about the costs this morning.
I've been led to believe my insurance covers mostly everything, however I was told the OOP costs as well. The IUI procedure costs $300. The total costs for the medication is $1,800, and that's supposedly discounted (ouch). Ultrasounds run at $325 each, and I'll probably need at least 5 of them. I'm not sure what the cost of the bloodwork will be. I imagine if I paid OOP for the entire cycle it would run approx $5K.
Oh and by the way, a women in my class this morning said she was OOP for everything, but the nurse said they'll double check on that and see what they can submit. Sometimes they can work around things and get the bloodwork and ultrasounds covered.
Me 41 DH 46 Not actively ttc, surprise BFP on 1/6/11! 4/1/11 m/c our sunshine at 16wks after complications from CVS test. TTC #2 **5th cycle 12/6/11 BFP! Missed m/c at 9 weeks 1/21/12, trisomy 14. Two Chemical PG 3/12&7/12
** BFP 8/16/12 beta #1 148! beta#2 407 beta #3 4000 u/s 9.10 1 lovely hb 126, Baby Boy is due 04/28/13!!
Sorry you've reached this point.
At our consultation, we were quoted $500 IUI w/ Femara or Clomid, $2500 IUI with injectables, and $14k for IVF. IUI's aren't back to back due to MFI. These estimates included drugs and any labs.
Good luck.
Sorry you've reached this point.
At our consultation, we were quoted $500 IUI w/ Femara or Clomid, $2500 IUI with injectables, and $14k for IVF. IUI's aren't back to back due to MFI. These estimates included drugs and any labs. These prices are if we were 100% OOP. Insurance covers some of it and requires that we do a 3 Femara IUI cycles before injects.
Good luck.
DH asked for a breakdown of costs today. I also pay 50% so I will give you what my share but does not include meds:
Prescreening:
Day 3 bloodwork $142.77
Clomid Challenge test (I did not do it) $6.22
Semen Analysis $4.72
Mock Embryo Transfer/Fluid Sonogram $534.89
Injection Class (they did not make us do that because I was a nurse in my past career and DH was a medic in the Army) $17.98
HSG $451.91 or $685.96 (I had to go to the hospital and pay the higher cost because of my shellfish allergy)
Follow-up visits $31.27 - 99.34
IUI Cycle
Pre-Med $119.16
Monitoring Cost Per visit $129.66 (I had 5)
IUI/Sperm Wash $370.21
Post Cycle Labs (Beta) $6.22 (they did not charge me for my BFN)
IVF Cycle
IVF Treatment Cycle two charges both with LE (I don't know what that is) and 5 days monitoring $3026 and $2760
Then there are a bunch of other charges for things like ICSI, Assisted Hatching, and cryopreservation.
I'm entirely OOP. My injectables and b2b IUI cycle cost us about $3000. That didn't include the meds, b/c we were lucky enough to get into a study where those were provided for us.
Do you think your DH is open to seeing an RE for diagnostic testing at least? Having that information was really helpful for MH and I to make the decision to move forward with treatments.
DD born 12.21.09, conceived w/ injects and IUI
TTC#2 since Nov 2011
BFP 2.6.12 m/c 6w5d | BFP 5.25.12 c/p
-Back to the RE-
3 medicated IUIs, all BFN
-Taking a break from treatment-
BFP 11.20.12 ~ EDD 7.28.13
My Chart
I think you might scare your DH more than convince him if you start gathering costs for a wide variety of IF treatments. Maybe you want to start with calling your insurance, and finding out exactly what they cover in terms of diagnostic testing, including semen analysis, and an HSG; IUI; IVF; and fert. medications.
If they cover diagnostics, then you can pitch a visit to an RE as, "what do we have to lose just doing some testing?"
Honestly, I was scared sh*tless when we went over the price list at our first RE consult, and have only gradually and begrudgingly come to accept the financial burdens of IF. So, I'm just thinking if your DH is financially conservative (like me), then a sampling of prices for a bunch of procedures you might not even need or want from around the country might overwhelm him unnecessarily. Good luck!
Me: 36, DH: 42
Dx: DOR and MFI
DH: low count + very low motility; hormones all normal; Sperm DNA Frag. test = poor to fair; male karyotyping normal
Me: FSH 13.4 + AMH 0.26 + hypothyroidism; Scratch the hypothyrodism (?); Blood clotting and immune panel all negative; endometrial biopsy normal
IVF #1 (MDLF - Jul/Aug 2011): BFN (9R, 5M, 3F with ICSI, 3dt of 1 10-cell grade 2, no frosties)
IVF #2 (EP-antagonist - Sep/Oct 2011): BFN (6R, 4M, 3F w/ ICSI, 3dt of 1 6-cell, 1 7-cell, grade 4s, no frosties)
DE IVF #1 (shared cycle - June 2012): c/p (6R, 6F w/ICSI, 3dt 1 8-cell grade A- and 1 7-cell grade A-; no frosties)
DE IVF #2 (shared cycle with new donor - Nov/Dec/ 2012): - BFP!!!!! 12/14/12. U/S on 12/27 shows twins!!!!!
SAIFW/PAIFW
Every time DH has to give a sample, I remind him that it is something that people do just for fun. My part involves putting my feet in metal sturrups and then pushing a watermelon size baby out of a very small opening. The I jokingly call him selfish.
Here is a good ballpark reference for fertility diagnosis and treatment costs: https://www.advancedfertility.com/fertility-treatment-costs.htm
We just finished up IUI this month. No one from the insurance CS department could give me a straight answer on what my insurance covers so we are just submitting the claims. Thus far they've paid for a couple of monitoring visits submitted (I had around a $50 copay plus some of my deductible, left).
I do know that I am completely OOP for injectible fertility meds. For this IUI cycle, I used Femara (generic), the 900 iu gonal-f pen, Ovidrel and crinone.
Femara and crinone can be used for things outside of fertility and were covered by my plan with a minimal co-pay. I bought the injectible pen from my RE's office for $250, and they donated the Ovidrel to me. So, my meds for this IUI cycle were less than $300.
GL!
DOR and AMA
2/12-5/12: 4 IUI cycles = all BFN;
7/12: DE IVF # 1 (with ICSI)- 20R, 16M, 14F, 5DT of 2 blasts; 6 frosties = BFN;
Lupus anticoagulant initially high, then found to be normal on hematology consult;
Follow up testing in September all clear;
Started synthroid for "high normal" TSH;
FET # 1- late October 2012- BFP on FRER; beta # 1- 21(low), beta # 2- 48 (still low), beta # 3- 132, beta # 4- 1,293; beta # 5- 5,606; last beta- over 100,000. First u/s 11/21- heard heartbeat
12/12- Officially an OB patient!
Level 2 ultrasound at 20 weeks shows vasa previa and VCI
Referral to MFM and mandatory c section for delivery
Beautiful baby girl born at 34 weeks
Finally home after 15 day NICU stay!
Trying for sibling: FET # 2- May 2014; beta 5/31, BFN
FET #3, early July 2014; beta 7/14, BFN
DE IVF # 2- August 2014; 14R, 13M, 11F, 5dt of 2 blasts (3 AA), 5 frosties = BFN
FET #4- December 2014, yet another BFN
Dr. KK work up shows borderline uterine blood flow, elevated NK cells, and MTHFR mutation (homozygous for c677t)
Added baby aspirin, prednisone, supplements, Metanx, and intralipids
Switched to large clinic for final attempt; had endometrial receptivity testing in January; FET March 2015 = yet another BFN
Likely OAD- NBC
That sounds like a bargain. I used Braville, Ovidrel, and a generic progesterone that I don't remember the name. I paid about $800.
My husband is sort of resistant to IF treatments. However, if we didn't get a semen analysis and a semen culture done on him, we would still be dealing with clumping sperm and not knowing it. In the semen culture they found a bacteria that was treated with antibiotics and his sperm improved greatly with our first IUI. Has he at least had these simple tests done?
I'm in Beverly Hills so my RE prices are out of control and not the norm. I have Cigna PPO that covers 50%.
DD born 12.21.09, conceived w/ injects and IUI
TTC#2 since Nov 2011
BFP 2.6.12 m/c 6w5d | BFP 5.25.12 c/p
-Back to the RE-
3 medicated IUIs, all BFN
-Taking a break from treatment-
BFP 11.20.12 ~ EDD 7.28.13
My Chart
((hugs)) If you feel like this, I really think you should get testing. Even if the results are bad, it could help you get closure.
RE: costs. Reference your benefits handbook. Mine clearly laid out what was and wasn't (most) covered. Others have given you similar cost ranges to what I've paid.
***This here*** Good Luck!!!
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days
SAIF/PAIF Welcome
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You can also use a collection condom, so he wouldn't really have to do anything different at all!
Giggling.. Thanks for the laugh McIrish!
Mine too, hahaha
I haven't even brought it up (again) with dh yet and I am already feeling like it will not be in the cards for us.
It IS really hard to walk away after all this time with nothing to show for the effort and if I end up spending thousands of dollars and STILL have nothing--well that will be VERY hard.
As for dh's tests--he has had nothing tested. He is not fond of doctors, hates hospitals and the THOUGHT of going into a special room with little cups freaks him out. AND he thinks that even if given the opportunity to "produce" at home he would not be able to do it. In other words he is a big excuse making baby.
He is not motivated at all to have another baby--he would be happy if we did/he would be happy if we didn't so I am in this desperation boat all alone. Thanks to all of you for the support--it is so nice chatting with those who "get it".
My hubby wasn't keen on giving a sample either until they told him we could bring it home and I could "help him". Then his normal guy instincts kicked and he thought of what he would get from my "help" and said yes.
Honestly, he didn't even really see any point in this until we ran into my best friend's mom and she mentioned how she didn't think she'd ever be gram. He decided that was just tragic. Every woman should get to be a grandmother! It's just inconvenient to have to be mom in between I guess.
Ha ha! I keep telling my husband that if we go on to an RE, there will be all kinds of "aids." (We are currently doing our IUIs with my OB/GYN since it is marginally cheaper OOP, and his office doesn't have anything!)
Good luck to you, llama, as you try to navigate where to go next!
Llama wishing you lots of luck! My DH was never on board and it was always more my dream. I told DH what Mtlaurel had said..lets just do the testing..what do we have to lose? It took many months to get used to the idea of spending all that $ and maybe end up getting nothing to show for it. Finally DH caved because he couldn't stand seeing me cry days upon days and being so sad. I'm just bummed that after we felt comfortable moving forward my damn mamm resutls messed everything up. Hope you two can figure this step out
ME:46 MH:44 DE IVF 2014
Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive. Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)
DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!