Personhood passes in VA

CallMeAl · February 2012

Today in Virginia a personhood bill was passed by the House. Senate has already passed a very similar bill, so it likely to be signed into law shortly.

It basically takes the entire Virginia code and makes the word "person" apply to a fertilized egg. I am terrified for what this means for IVF in Virginia. If my RE clinic could face criminal prosecution for destroying a frozen embryo at my request, or if they could face charges related to embryos arresting in their care, I don't know if they will continue to practice.

I'm so frustrated. End vent.

theworms · February 2012

does it mean they can't even freeze embryos anymore?

ugh, so disappointing

stay the FUCKKK out of my UTE

CallMeAl · February 2012

theworms:
does it mean they can't even freeze embryos anymore?

ugh, so disappointing

stay the FUCKKK out of my UTE

I don't know, Worms. That's a good question. Probably? Maybe? Ugh....

cookie_queen · February 2012

Wow, just wow. I never NEVER thought the personhood bill would pass. This is terrifying for reproductive technologies and women's reproductive health in general.

vanessagorc · February 2012

This stuff is so scary. How did it pass, and how does the federal government allow the states to do $hit like this. It's unreal to me that this exists in 2012.

CallMeAl · February 2012

It didn't even pass with a slim margin. It was like 66 to 32. WTFuuuuvvvckkk?! It's enough to make me want to move.

sbrowns08 · February 2012

Oh my goodness A, I didn't even know this was up for vote in VA. VERY scary indeed.

abvernon · February 2012

This disgust me. Why do people need to vote on $hit like this?!?

I agree with worms-stay away from my UTE. The only person who is going to "vote" on my UTE, is me.

etoyama · February 2012

cookie_queen:
Wow, just wow. I never NEVER thought the personhood bill would pass. This is terrifying for reproductive technologies and women's reproductive health in general.

Well said. It's effing terrifying.

Mayan2011 · February 2012

WTH?!?!

Personal.Freedom. - Where is it?

SweetDahlia · February 2012

:< That is awful. I never thought it would pass anywhere.

lynn0926 · February 2012

That is very disappointing! They should keep politics out of this! I bet none of them have had to experience IF!

MBfromBMC · February 2012

WTF? All of this is shocking to me... Like worms said, I'm the only one who gets to make decisions about my ute!

Yellow_Daisy · February 2012

So in VA do people not even get to vote on stuff like this? In every other state it's been a public vote not a state legislator vote. I really hope that there are some lawsuits to come to block this. This really scares me!

armywife76 · February 2012

Looks like it still has to go to the senate and then be signed by the gov., who hasn't taken a position publicly yet. If they're going to do this stuff, I wish they'd just put it on the ballot so we all can vote (like we did when we rejected it in MS last year). Just seems like a sneaky way to get it in the door. Very scary stuff for the future of IVF.

steveandkim2 · February 2012

This frightens me..and not to generalize, but many times the politicians supporting this stuff have 4 or 5 children. Why deny us the family that came so easily to them?

One politician says that children should be conceived out of love. Well I don't know a greater love than having a spouse hold your hand through this, go through the volume of tests we need to go through, or pick you up off the floor when you collapse in a crying heap upon learning your IVF was a bfn

katt3233 · February 2012

Ugh!

mtlaurel · February 2012

Holy sh!t, that's scary.

farmerlynda · February 2012

steveandkim2:
This frightens me..and not to generalize, but many times the politicians supporting this stuff have 4 or 5 children. Why deny us the family that came so easily to them?
One politician says that children should be conceived out of love. Well I don't know a greater love than having a spouse hold your hand through this, go through the volume of tests we need to go through, or pick you up off the floor when you collapse in a crying heap upon learning your IVF was a bfn

All of this. Going through IVF takes more love than they'll ever know.

And to take what is fundamentally an anti-abortion bill and expand it so broadly that it hurts people who are trying to create life (and, incidentally, love their embies more than any normal pregnant woman would)... why can't they see the irony of this?

Yellow_Daisy · February 2012

farmerlynda:
steveandkim2:
This frightens me..and not to generalize, but many times the politicians supporting this stuff have 4 or 5 children. Why deny us the family that came so easily to them?
One politician says that children should be conceived out of love. Well I don't know a greater love than having a spouse hold your hand through this, go through the volume of tests we need to go through, or pick you up off the floor when you collapse in a crying heap upon learning your IVF was a bfn
All of this. Going through IVF takes more love than they'll ever know.
And to take what is fundamentally an anti-abortion bill and expand it so broadly that it hurts people who are trying to create life (and, incidentally, love their embies more than any normal pregnant woman would)... why can't they see the irony of this?

The more I think about this the more I think this will be overturned *if* it passes the senate and Gov. It violates federal law and Roe v. Wade if it is truly (I haven't read the bill) an anti-abortion bill. Federal law would still trump State law in this instance which I think would give opponents good legal standing to overturn. It's still scary that it could pass, but I think it would easily be overturned in court.

farmerlynda · February 2012

Yellow_Daisy:
The more I think about this the more I think this will be overturned *if* it passes the senate and Gov. It violates federal law and Roe v. Wade if it is truly (I haven't read the bill) an anti-abortion bill. Federal law would still trump State law in this instance which I think would give opponents good legal standing to overturn. It's still scary that it could pass, but I think it would easily be overturned in court.

I sure hope so!

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