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MarSamWhitney · February 2012

I'm dying to know with all that info and video that was posted, if you will switch to rear facing. I honestly think if you watched that video you would change your mind.

lilbit923 · February 2012

I read the responses, just hadn't had any time to respond. I don't miss days of working fatality accidents involving people of all ages. My car seats are all secured and latched properly, I used to do car seat inspections at the station for any parent who asked for them. I don't say this to say that my way of driving, choice of vehicle, or parenting is above anyone else's. I just don't agree with rear facing beyond a year old. If other people choose to then that's what works for them.

No, sorry I won't be. But to set the record straight, I switched Isla to forward facing 2 weeks ago, not a month ago. She's turning 1 on Friday. If someone wants to flame me, go for it. I don't live their life and they don't live mine.

emiliemadison · February 2012

lilbit923:
I used to do car seat inspections at the station for any parent who asked for them.

This is infuriating. You can do whatever you want with your own kids (even if it goes against the safety recommendations), but how DARE you present yourself as an expert to parents who are trying to keep their kids safe. I'm appalled that you- someone who has vowed to PROTECT and serve- would put other people's children at risk. You clearly have no idea what you're doing, and you're no better qualified to inspect seats than the parents themselves.

As someone who is *certified* to inspect seats and educate parents about car seat safety, I hope you send people looking for inspections to someone who is certified and who CARES about what is safest for children.

And no, we dont live your life, but what does it say about a police officer who either doesnt know, or worse, doesnt care about keeping their own child safe to the barest minimum standard of the law.

kendra223 · February 2012

Not flaming, I just don't understand. May I ask why you are against RF?

emiliemadison · February 2012

kendra223:
Not flaming, I just don't understand. May I ask why you are against RF?

Intentional ignorance.

lilbit923 · February 2012

emiliemadison:
This is infuriating. You can do whatever you want with your own kids (even if it goes against the safety recommendations), but how DARE you present yourself as an expert to parents who are trying to keep their kids safe. I'm appalled that you- someone who has vowed to PROTECT and serve- would put other people's children at risk. You clearly have no idea what you're doing, and you're no better qualified to inspect seats than the parents themselves.
As someone who is *certified* to inspect seats and educate parents about car seat safety, I hope you send people looking for inspections to someone who is certified and who CARES about what is safest for children.

And no, we dont live your life, but what does it say about a police officer who either doesnt know, or worse, doesnt care about keeping their own child safe to the barest minimum standard of the law.

You're equally infuriating. Not once did I say I was an expert, your words not mine. I never said I was certified, some parents did not know how to latch or install a carseat. I would help them out to put it in, inspect the age of the seat if it were a borrowed one, refer to manufacturers if they wanted one replaced, etc. If they wanted someone to go over certifications for that, a different officer tended to it.

I don't care what your perceptions of my life are as a parent or as an officer. I appreciate your concern but don't care for your flippant disdain. What's amazing to me is you assume that because I have a badge that I'm not allowed or permitted to make decisions different than what someone else would do. No, I don't believe in rear facing beyond a year old. That's my choice and none of your business.

for realz · February 2012

lilbit923:
I read the responses, just hadn't had any time to respond. I don't miss days of working fatality accidents involving people of all ages. My car seats are all secured and latched properly, I used to do car seat inspections at the station for any parent who asked for them. I don't say this to say that my way of driving, choice of vehicle, or parenting is above anyone else's. I just don't agree with rear facing beyond a year old. If other people choose to then that's what works for them.

No, sorry I won't be. But to set the record straight, I switched Isla to forward facing 2 weeks ago, not a month ago. She's turning 1 on Friday. If someone wants to flame me, go for it. I don't live their life and they don't live mine.

Wow, you are an idiot. You "dont agree" with giving your kid a better chance of surviving a crash? That's disgusting. And also, its the law to RF until age one. Whether you turned her 2 weeks ago or a month ago doesn't really matter, she was still under one. I guess cops don't have to follow the law?

lilbit923 · February 2012

for realz:
Wow, you are an idiot. You "dont agree" with giving your kid a better chance of surviving a crash? That's disgusting. And also, its the law to RF until age one. Whether you turned her 2 weeks ago or a month ago doesn't really matter, she was still under one. I guess cops don't have to follow the law?

It's not a law in Texas, it's a recommendation. Our law in Texas stipulates a child must be in a safety seat for their height and weight requirement, how it faces is not law.

lilbit923 · February 2012

kendra223:
Not flaming, I just don't understand. May I ask why you are against RF?

I'm not saying it doesn't work for other people, it's just not something we've done once the kids have met the weight goals and are 1 or soon to be.

MarSamWhitney · February 2012

I wasnt looking to start a huge debate, I truly was wondering what the reason would be to have a child FF early. From the way you have described handling your SS, how much thought you put into the boob job, etc...I thought maybe once you saw the videos and read the facts you might reconsider. I don't think you are an idiot by any means, it just sounded like you are uninformed and cant give valid reasns to FF. You are right, its your life. But I pray to God no one rear ends you. ever.

emiliemadison · February 2012

lilbit923:
emiliemadison:
This is infuriating. You can do whatever you want with your own kids (even if it goes against the safety recommendations), but how DARE you present yourself as an expert to parents who are trying to keep their kids safe. I'm appalled that you- someone who has vowed to PROTECT and serve- would put other people's children at risk. You clearly have no idea what you're doing, and you're no better qualified to inspect seats than the parents themselves.
As someone who is *certified* to inspect seats and educate parents about car seat safety, I hope you send people looking for inspections to someone who is certified and who CARES about what is safest for children.

And no, we dont live your life, but what does it say about a police officer who either doesnt know, or worse, doesnt care about keeping their own child safe to the barest minimum standard of the law.

You're equally infuriating. Not once did I say I was an expert, your words not mine. I never said I was certified, some parents did not know how to latch or install a carseat. I would help them out to put it in, inspect the age of the seat if it were a borrowed one, refer to manufacturers if they wanted one replaced, etc. If they wanted someone to go over certifications for that, a different officer tended to it.

Jesus. Helping parents put seats in, inspecting the angle, verifying age of seat- THAT is what requires a certification. Over 90% of people install/use their car seats incorrectly. You're definitely one of them. These parents come to look for help to make sure their kids are safe and they get someone who only knows as much as they do who presents themselves as an expert. I'll say it again. SHAME on you.

rimthegreat · February 2012

emiliemadison:
lilbit923:
emiliemadison:
This is infuriating. You can do whatever you want with your own kids (even if it goes against the safety recommendations), but how DARE you present yourself as an expert to parents who are trying to keep their kids safe. I'm appalled that you- someone who has vowed to PROTECT and serve- would put other people's children at risk. You clearly have no idea what you're doing, and you're no better qualified to inspect seats than the parents themselves.
As someone who is *certified* to inspect seats and educate parents about car seat safety, I hope you send people looking for inspections to someone who is certified and who CARES about what is safest for children.

And no, we dont live your life, but what does it say about a police officer who either doesnt know, or worse, doesnt care about keeping their own child safe to the barest minimum standard of the law.

You're equally infuriating. Not once did I say I was an expert, your words not mine. I never said I was certified, some parents did not know how to latch or install a carseat. I would help them out to put it in, inspect the age of the seat if it were a borrowed one, refer to manufacturers if they wanted one replaced, etc. If they wanted someone to go over certifications for that, a different officer tended to it.

Jesus. Helping parents put seats in, inspecting the angle, verifying age of seat- THAT is what requires a certification. Over 90% of people install/use their car seats incorrectly. You're definitely one of them. These parents come to look for help to make sure their kids are safe and they get someone who only knows as much as they do who presents themselves as an expert. I'll say it again. SHAME on you.

I guess I'm net getting where you are coming from with this. As an officer she is certified to show parents how to install the saftey seat and show them how to use it properly. She is not saying that she tells other parents that turing their child FF early is better or anything like that. personal life and choices are seperate here. I have a 13 month old who is only 18lbs, I haven't turned her yet and I probably won't for quite sometime. I agree that RF is the safest way and I wouldn't turn Ellie right now if she was 30lbs becasue I don't like taking any type of risk. You can disagree with her choice, but I don't think that saying she can't show someone how to properly install a carseat is correct.

emiliemadison · February 2012

rimthegreat:
I guess I'm net getting where you are coming from with this. As an officer she is certified to show parents how to install the saftey seat and show them how to use it properly. She is not saying that she tells other parents that turing their child FF early is better or anything like that. personal life and choices are seperate here. I have a 13 month old who is only 18lbs, I haven't turned her yet and I probably won't for quite sometime. I agree that RF is the safest way and I wouldn't turn Ellie right now if she was 30lbs becasue I don't like taking any type of risk. You can disagree with her choice, but I don't think that saying she can't show someone how to properly install a carseat is correct.

No, she's NOT certified or qualified to show parents how to use their seats. She's just as qualified as the guy selling tires at Walmart. So, not at all. SOME police officers and fire fighters are qualified, because they've taken a certification course.

Her personal choices are hers to make, and even if I dont agree with them, she has that right. But when she gives (ill informed, at best) advice to other parents who BELIEVE that she is an "expert". That's the danger, and the outrage.

Titts McGeee · February 2012

lilbit923:
for realz:
Wow, you are an idiot. You "dont agree" with giving your kid a better chance of surviving a crash? That's disgusting. And also, its the law to RF until age one. Whether you turned her 2 weeks ago or a month ago doesn't really matter, she was still under one. I guess cops don't have to follow the law?

It's not a law in Texas, it's a recommendation. Our law in Texas stipulates a child must be in a safety seat for their height and weight requirement, how it faces is not law.

The link you posted yesterday stated that it was the law in Texas to rear face until age one, not a requirement. One would think you'd know that, being a police officer and all.

aruiz1982 · February 2012

Lilbit is a scumbag. She proves it over and over again.

rimthegreat · February 2012

aruiz1982:

Lilbit is a scumbag. She proves it over and over again.

Stop attacking members!

aruiz1982 · February 2012

rimthegreat:
aruiz1982:

Lilbit is a scumbag. She proves it over and over again.

Stop attacking members!

Its just an honest opinion. And based on fact.

EVA116 · February 2012

rimthegreat:
aruiz1982:

Lilbit is a scumbag. She proves it over and over again.

Stop attacking members!

rimthegreat....you're back!

TobleroneBar · February 2012

Lilbit, I love you and honestly... while I don't see where you are coming from at all...I know what kind of mother you are. Therefore, I do not question nor flame your decision. To know your reasonings is to see the awful fatalities you've had to see. Something I'm sure most of us never have...nor would want to.

Emilie - you've always been an over-opinionated, sanctimonious cvm-guzzler who only shows up when opportunity is given to have that joan rivers nose of yours up in the air. I hope you get a yeast infection in your toes!

PS - Lilbit, your siggy is fricken hot!!!

BeetleLinz1125 · February 2012

aruiz1982:
rimthegreat:
aruiz1982:

Lilbit is a scumbag. She proves it over and over again.

Stop attacking members!

Its just an honest opinion. And based on fact.

It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.

Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

rimthegreat · February 2012

TobleroneBar:

Lilbit, I love you and honestly... while I don't see where you are coming from at all...I know what kind of mother you are. Therefore, I do not question nor flame your decision. To know your reasonings is to see the awful fatalities you've had to see. Something I'm sure most of us never have...nor would want to.

Emilie - you've always been an over-opinionated, sanctimonious cvm-guzzler who only shows up when opportunity is given to have that joan rivers nose of yours up in the air. I hope you get a yeast infection in your toes!

PS - Lilbit, your siggy is fricken hot!!!

I LOVE YOU MORE TODAY THAN YESTERDAY!

BlueEyedMama715 · February 2012

wow Lilbit, sorry for all the negative reactions you are getting over this. I understand that this is a public forum and when we put stuff out there we are opening it up to comments but some of those are really harsh. Women can be so judgmental and rude! We have no idea who the other is in real life and the fact that some of you can type out such mean responses amazes me. Being harsh is in now way going to make someone switch to your way of thinking even if you believe your intentions are good.

earmuffs03 · February 2012

I PPH you lilbit Big Smile Your parenting decisions are your own to make, Cannon is still rear facing even though he is a beast and I feel bad that his little legs are smashed against the seat. So what if you have your DD FF, that is what you choose to do. Did you know that I gave Cannon a bottle in his crib this afternoon Indifferent shame on me!!!

Tboner- we shouldn't be using the word "c*m-whatever" to describe people!!! Don't you know that is frowned upon Wink

snozberries · February 2012

TobleroneBar:
Lilbit, I love you and honestly... while I don't see where you are coming from at all...I know what kind of mother you are. Therefore, I do not question nor flame your decision. To know your reasonings is to see the awful fatalities you've had to see. Something I'm sure most of us never have...nor would want to.

Emilie - you've always been an over-opinionated, sanctimonious cvm-guzzler who only shows up when opportunity is given to have that joan rivers nose of yours up in the air. I hope you get a yeast infection in your toes! THIS.!!!!ALL OF THIS.

PS - Lilbit, your siggy is fricken hot!!!

And to each his own. If lilbit wants to FF it's her child her choice. I just pray the Lord keeps you all safe.

lilbit923 · February 2012

snozberries:
TobleroneBar:

Lilbit, I love you and honestly... while I don't see where you are coming from at all...I know what kind of mother you are. Therefore, I do not question nor flame your decision. To know your reasonings is to see the awful fatalities you've had to see. Something I'm sure most of us never have...nor would want to.

Emilie - you've always been an over-opinionated, sanctimonious cvm-guzzler who only shows up when opportunity is given to have that joan rivers nose of yours up in the air. I hope you get a yeast infection in your toes! THIS.!!!!ALL OF THIS.

PS - Lilbit, your siggy is fricken hot!!!

And to each his own. If lilbit wants to FF it's her child her choice. I just pray the Lord keeps you all safe.

You ladies are a riot! Love you all to pieces. Thank you to those who back my opinion to raise my children or seat them how I choose. Anyone can frown upon anyone else for any number of things. I know each state is different and some laws are more stringent than others. I know the link I posted said one thing and I went to my law book to read up on this. I've been off patrol since 2008, our laws change all the time. The statute is vague and reads to keep the child restrained in the appropriate seat per the height and weight of the child based on the regulations of the seat.

I'm digging for the age and it wasn't there. I know, 20lbs & 1 year. Am I wrong for turning Isla 2 weeks prior? Yeah. I'll own my mistake but when I'm hearing about what a horrible police officer I am and being berated on every other decision I've made, it's going too far. Am I going to believe other people's opinion of me? Highly unlikely. Someone doesn't like me? Awww bless their heart. Surely isn't the first person and won't be the last.

lilbit923 · February 2012

BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

JNBrickey · February 2012

lilbit923:
BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

I can't believe people have jumped down your throat like they have. When I made my OP, my main thought wasn't necessarily that I was terribly concerned my cousin wasn't going to RF his son unit he was two, it was that he was FF him at 9 months. Which I've learned is actually illegal. If he wasn't family, I wouldn't call him on it.

MarSamWhitney · February 2012

lilbit923:
BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

I guess what boggles a lot of us, is that we don't see how its best for your children. You just kind of say "F you, its my choice!!!!" But why for Isla? None of us are perfect mothers by any means, but we try to do the best with can with the knowledge we have. To ignore all of the resources and information out there just seems odd to me.

But, I half expect you to just say "Suck it!! I do what I want!!" lol, ya know? Thats kind of the attitude I'm getting.

LadyXaverian · February 2012

lilbit923:
BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

I am not flaming. I am honestly curious about this. What is it about FF that you feel is best?

MarSamWhitney · February 2012

SarahL77:
lilbit923:
BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

I am not flaming. I am honestly curious about this. What is it about FF that you feel is best?

Jinx!!! LOL

I have a feeling we are beating a dead horse though..lol

kevin.amanda · February 2012

lilbit923:
BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

I know I'm a newb poster, but I've been a regular lurker for quite awhile. Lilbit, you've always come across as an intelligent, articulate, devoted mother. I guess what I don't understand in this situation, and what you haven't really explained, is why you think this is the best for your children? There is overwhelming evidence that shows that RF is much safer than FF, so what are your reasons for choosing to FF your daughter when you still have the option of RF? What do you see as the benefits that outweighs the risks? I think this is what everyone is curious about. Of course you don't owe anyone an explanation, but you've never had a problem explaining yourself and your rationale in other situations. Maybe this is why everyone is still harping on you about this. They just want to know your reasoning behind "this is what I think is best".

AshasaurusRex · February 2012

I've been gone a few days, and this is all everyone's been up in arms over? Most of the women in this thread need to get over themselves.

carissa_danielle · February 2012

I guess I'll be part of the minority here.... I plan on doing exactly what lilbit is doing. Once Lydia turns one, she'll be FF. I understand where everyone is coming from, but my choice is my choice.

aruiz1982 · February 2012

carissa_danielle:
I guess I'll be part of the minority here.... I plan on doing exactly what lilbit is doing. Once Lydia turns one, she'll be FF. I understand where everyone is coming from, but my choice is my choice.

So you understand there is a safer choice to be made, and you won't do it. How about you try saying that out loud to yourself "I choose not to keep my child as safe as possible"

kevin.amanda · February 2012

AshasaurusRex:
I've been gone a few days, and this is all everyone's been up in arms over? Most of the women in this thread need to get over themselves.

I think this is an unfair statement. Yes, there were some harsh comments but the majority of posters are honestly trying to understand why some moms would make a decision that puts their child at increased risk, when there are known safer alternatives available. Is it their choice? Yes. But we're just trying to understand the reasoning behind that choice.

BeetleLinz1125 · February 2012

lilbit923:
BeetleLinz1125:
It may be your honest opinion, but its irrevelant and rude.
Lilbit, I guess I'm just disappointed - with everything we know about you, one would think that you would want to keep up with the latest safety regulation and reccomendations and not use the "its how we've always done it" explanation. I'm not flaming you for FF, I guess I just am for you explanation of why you choose to do it that way. If you were to say that you have researched FF vs. RF and believe that FF is whats best, then OK...but to blindly just do something because its what you've always done is just disappointing.

I guess I just get frustrated when people don't do their own research to base their actions/opinions.

That's ok. I respect your opinion. If you feel you're disappointed in me for doing what I think is best for my children then that's fine. I'm not knocking you for what you believe in.

I'm not knocking you for what you believe in, I just don't know what it is. I don't think you have deserved all of the flames and terrible comments that you have received over this. I have even reported those that I feel were crossing the line.

Do we understand why: no. Is it our business: not really. Do we have genuine concern for Isla: yes. I remember anxiously waiting to hear updates about her when you posted about going into labor so early, and I think its that connection that has a lot of us concerned. I remember being so relieved when she was released from the hospital and knowing she was OK. Its emotional for us!

I think at this point we all need to just drop it. Me understanding why you do this isn't going to change anything really. Things happen in life that lead us to make the decisions we do. So you forward face, that's your decision.

Bottom line, we all make decisions as parents that other people look down upon and side-eye. But others disapproval will probably not change anything. I'm sorry so many people feel that their negative comments and personal attacks will make a difference. You don't deserve that.

I do think you are a great mother. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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