Babies: 0 - 3 Months

OK, here is something controversial for you, Chalm:

How does everyone feel about this:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/story?id=6291477&page=1

 

Me: I'm not sure since I haven't had any fertility problems.  I think if I did, though, I wouldn't want more than 2 or 3 embryos implanted to improve their safety in utero and my sanity once they were born!

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Re: OK, here is something controversial for you, Chalm:

  • Ooh, that is controversial. I have no idea -- I have a problem telling other people what to do with their bodies, but I can see why it has become an issue.
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  • I have to start off by saying that I have not had fertility issues.

    HOWEVER. 

    I understand the need to want to keep trying for children.  But if you have so many children to begin with because you keep having multiples, and your income is stretched so thin to support said children, why on earth would you keep trying for more??  Especially when one of your many children requires extra special care?

    That just seems irresponsible to me. 

  • No infertility problems.

    I agree with akiernan - at some point, it's irresponsible. 

  • I personally wouldn't do IVF, if I couldn't conceive, but yes I think it should be regulated to only two or three at a time. There are too many risks and I couldn't live with myself if I knew I was responsible for giving one of my children a mental disability or MS or whatever. And who can afford 6 or more kids at one time, why would you choose to do that?
  • They Hayes family didn't have IVF. But irresponsible, nonetheless.
  • This argument is somewhat of a red herring..It's the IUI'w w/ injectibles like Gonal F that result in the super multiple pregnancies, not typically IVF. 

    I have never heard of a reputable IVF clinic that implant more than 3 embryos. 

     

  • This is what's selfish & irresponsible:

    Eric and Elizabeth, though, still say they are blessed, despite their travails. "We were just going to go for one more and try for another girl, and hit the jackpot," Elizabeth said on ABC's "Good Morning America."
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  • Well let me chime in here...I did have fertility problem and I had to have my kids via IVF.  I think it should be regulated to a point... I think the real problem here is the difference between IVF and drugs/IUI proceedures.  IVF you can control the number you get.  IUI/drugs you really can't unless closely monitored.  Even then you really never can control it.  You may get one, you may get 8, you may get none.  If you do IVF and put 2 back in, it is VERY unlikely that you will get more than two (possible but not likely).  The biggest problem in that case is how many embryos you produce and what you do with them.  In my case we only ended up with 4.  I put two in and ended up with the two cuties you see below.  I have 2 more "on ice" as they say. In a year or so we are going to transfer those two and what fate choses to give us from the transfer is all we are going to do.  Luckily we ended up with such a low number. What do you do when you have like 20 embryos?  I know it would be a dilema because I would hate to destroy them and I wouldn't feel comfortable donating them to another couple because biologically they are my children...and what is the point to keep them frozen indefinitly?

    Anyway if you really want to start controversy talk about whether IVF should be covered by insurance.  Here in NJ its law and yes even though it paid for my children I personally don't agree with it (don't flame me, its not like I had the option of giving the money back).   Reason I don't agree with it is that many insurances make you pay out of pocket or refuse to treatments to keep people alive, who are you know, already here. And as much as we love and cherish our children, we aren't going to DIE if we remained childless.

    Anyway, that  is my two cents, sorry its long.  I am sure I stirred the pot enough.

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