May 2011 Moms

My blood is boiling a little bit

So I'm a talk radio junkie. I listen to it all day at work and this guy is talking about the nurse-in at Target in Chicago yesterday. He was full on making fun of these women. He is saying she should have planned her day better so she didn't have to nurse in public and that she should go into the fitting room if she had to nurse or leave the store because she was making people uncomfortable. I don't generally email radio personalities but I totally did. I was pretty upset. It's attitudes like his that make it harder for women not to feel shunned or ashamed about it. It's a ridiculous attitude. You better believe I'm going to nurse whenever I am if my daughter is hungry. I shouldn't have to hide.


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Re: My blood is boiling a little bit

  • I need a like button :)  I totally agree.  If the baby was being bottle fed no one would say anything, but breast feeding is supposed to be hidden?  By hiding it you're confirming that there's something wrong with it! 
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  • It's reasons like this that I wish K was BF. I would pull my bewbs out all over town just to shut people up!!
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  • Ick. I would email in, for sure, and I would probably take my ears to another station whenever he was on the air.
  • That makes my blood boil too!!!! What is that his email address? I would LOVE to send him an email!
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  • This has always been an interesting debate for me. I was one of those people back when I didn't have DS, I used to say pretty stupid things and now that I EBF DS I know differently, and I will feed my kid anywhere. However, I still have that uneasiness whenever I BF in public. I cover myself up, or I go to a more "private" part of the store or wherever we happen to be. It is not an excuse but I come from a culture that sees BFing in public not just wrong--or with a sexual stigma to the bare breast, like here in the U.S. but back in my country of origin it is a social status issue. It's hard to get rid of what you have been brought up with, that said, this only goes to show the importance of cultural influence, until we as a society take that step to view BFing in public as a normal and natural thing, this will continue to happen.

    Did you see or hear about the NASCAR driver that said felt "grossed out" by a nursing mother? It's all over FB.

  • Lol at him saying the mother should have managed her time around the child's feeding schedule. It doesn't always work like that especially with a newborn. With DD since I started her on solids, yes I can plan outings after her feeding but that's beside the point. I have no issues with BF'ing in public or seeing other people do it. I have BF'd in restaurants and other places. I always try to find a quiet spot if I'm able to and cover myself very well. If I couldn't cover myself well I would be going to the car or somewhere but I've never had that issue.
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  • What a moron.  I'm glad you emailed him.  It boggles my mind that there are people who actually think something is wrong with a mother nursing a baby.

    I can't even count the number of times I have nursed at target.  It's like my kid has an automatic association between being there and wanting to nurse.  Come to think of it, the target symbol kind of looks like a boob... 

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  • My blood was boiling reading comments on an article about the nurse-in.  People are so ignorant.
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  • What's a "feeding schedule"? My son still hasn't figured that out.
  • imageiris427:

    What a moron.  I'm glad you emailed him.  It boggles my mind that there are people who actually think something is wrong with a mother nursing a baby.

    I can't even count the number of times I have nursed at target.  It's like my kid has an automatic association between being there and wanting to nurse.  Come to think of it, the target symbol kind of looks like a boob... 

    Bwahaha! It's true! I never thought of that before.

    I nurse with a cover and you actually see so much LESS of my body when I nurse because of that and yet people still glare, stare, turn their backs and make comments about it. I made sure I mentioned all of these points ladies. Thank goodness he was just a fill in host for the regular. I'll never have to hear the ignorance again. Maybe I'll post the email I sent him.



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  • imagemeimsx:
    imageiris427:

    What a moron.  I'm glad you emailed him.  It boggles my mind that there are people who actually think something is wrong with a mother nursing a baby.

    I can't even count the number of times I have nursed at target.  It's like my kid has an automatic association between being there and wanting to nurse.  Come to think of it, the target symbol kind of looks like a boob... 

    Bwahaha! It's true! I never thought of that before.

    I nurse with a cover and you actually see so much LESS of my body when I nurse because of that and yet people still glare, stare, turn their backs and make comments about it. I made sure I mentioned all of these points ladies. Thank goodness he was just a fill in host for the regular. I'll never have to hear the ignorance again. Maybe I'll post the email I sent him.

     

    Ugh.  I've been fortunate not to have people make negative comments to me.  People are jerks. 

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  • This is the email I sent him

    Sometimes a mother can?t help where she is when her child gets hungry. That?s just fact. I can plan my day and my daughter?s feeding schedule down to the minute but it doesn?t always work. If I have to feed my daughter while I?m in public I don?t see why I should have to go to a restroom to do it. I have fed in a fitting room because sometimes it is the polite thing to do and it makes ME feel more comfortable but if there isn?t a fitting room I?m not going to hide in a restroom to feed her. I have been asked to go to the restroom to feed her. How would you like to eat in a restroom? You wouldn?t. It?s not sanitary. If I?m going to be in there for 15 minutes I want a chair to sit down on. Not a toilet. I shouldn?t have to do that.
    I don?t know what is so offensive about my daughter eating in the most natural way ever created. I don?t show anything when I nurse because I use a cover. In fact when I?m nursing you see LESS of my body because I cover up. I have had stares, glares, back turns and comments. It is offensive to ME that I?m not allowed to feed my daughter. It?s ignorance like yours (I?m sorry to say) that makes it harder for women to feel like they aren?t being shunned by society for simply trying to feed their child.
    I did find your stance offensive because like one of your callers said, you?re not a woman. You don?t get it. You may have a wife that breastfed and a daughter that currently breastfeeds but you still don?t get it. You aren't the one that has to deal with the crying hungry baby. If a woman brought out a bottle no one would think twice about it. And before you think, "well you can just pump and give a bottle," no you can't. If a woman pumps she doesn't get as much milk, She gets engorged if she doesn't feed at the right time and then her supply can suffer. Again, not something you would understand as you are not a nursing mother. Unless you truly "get it" I would keep your opinions on the matter to yourself. You're spewing ignorance.

     



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  • Nice e-mail! I hope he reads it and feels embarrassed about his comment.

    It's such a shame that we've sexualized things so much that we can't even feed our children in public without someone making it a big deal. I don't get embarrassed when you drink your coffee out in public. Don't make a big deal out of my baby drinking his milk in public. 

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  • Nice email! I don't think I could have been as calm as you were!
  • imagerjveldman:

    Nice e-mail! I hope he reads it and feels embarrassed about his comment.

    It's such a shame that we've sexualized things so much that we can't even feed our children in public without someone making it a big deal. I don't get embarrassed when you drink your coffee out in public. Don't make a big deal out of my baby drinking his milk in public. 

    This! When did feeding a child become something sexual?! Makes me sick that an innocent baby eating from their mother has turned into something that people view as gross.

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  • I have been so fortunate to live in an area where a lot of women BF and I've never gotten negative a look or comment. I'm so sorry that you've been treated this way. I don't understand that negative attitude towards BF at all and I wish I could be there to b!tch slap those jerkfaces for you.  
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  • imagedahansen85:
    I have been so fortunate to live in an area where a lot of women BF and I've never gotten negative a look or comment. I'm so sorry that you've been treated this way. I don't understand that negative attitude towards BF at all and I wish I could be there to b!tch slap those jerkfaces for you.  

    Honestly the few times I felt truly insulted was when I was visiting my in-laws in Montana. I don't get it as much here. Stares sure but I think its just the voyeuristic nature of people. The stares don't bother me much.

    Also, he wrote me back! He said I was judging him and I'm not a talk show host so it's the same. He can have an opinion even though he's not a nursing mother. Not sure how those two things are the same but I wrote him back again. I just reiterated some of my points and made them clearer. I also said this,

    I hope that even if you never feel comfortable with nursing in public that you can at least appreciate that we shouldn?t have to hide it. Also, I would never change my child?s diaper on a dining room table but we aren?t talking about disgusting disease causing body fluid. We are talking about a boob. Big difference.

    He made that last point. That if we felt comfortable NIP that we probably don't see a difference. Um, yeah I do. I don't deficate where I eat. I don't expect people to do that. That's why I don't nurse in the restroom. Why would I bring the filth to the dining room?

     

     



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  • I cannot believe he compared sh!tting where you eat to NIP. That is so beyond ignorant. If he truly has a wife and daughter who have breastfed, they are probably ashamed and embarrassed by his behaviour.
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  • Your email was great.  This guy sounds like a whiny moron.  You're judging him?  Uh, yeah.  When you put your ideas and opinions out there, people are going to judge their merit, and in turn judge the person based on that.  If he doesn't want to be judged, get off the damn radio.
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  • imageiris427:
    Your email was great.  This guy sounds like a whiny moron.  You're judging him?  Uh, yeah.  When you put your ideas and opinions out there, people are going to judge their merit, and in turn judge the person based on that.  If he doesn't want to be judged, get off the damn radio.

    I agree. I think the part that bothers me the most is that he was filling in for Glenn Beck who has a HUGE following. He reached millions of people. Some of those people who had never given the matter a thought are now forming opinions based on what this guy has said and some of those people are going to agree with him because he had the forum. He was able to voice his opinion and he only took one call opposed to it.

    He is entitled to his opinion but that doesn't make it the right opinion. A racist is allowed an opinion as well but that doesn't make it the right one.

     



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  • Cr@p like this makes me so thankful I live in a very open minded town.  no one has ever said anything to me, even when i was strugeling to get her latched in the sling in the midle of the toy aisle at wal mart.  sorry for formating i have a nursing baby on my lap Big Smile
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  • Glad you emailed him.

    The "I will *** on the table if it is so natural" argument is the one used when there is no argument to make...when the person really has nothing intelligent to say.

    And thumbs up from another talk radio junkie :-) I used to listen to Glenn Beck when I lived in FL even though I agree with almost nothing he says. I started listening to Dave Ramsey/Clark Howard/Jerry Springer (no longer on the radio but he was surprisingly gripping in the political talk radio spectrum)/and a ton of podcasts. Never music.  

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  • Its just some idiot on a radio show running his mouth. I wouldnt take the time to send a email going off on someone about their opinion. Sounds like a waste of time to me. I also think you are being a little over sensitive.
  • imageMiSSKRiS512:
    Its just some idiot on a radio show running his mouth. I wouldnt take the time to send a email going off on someone about their opinion. Sounds like a waste of time to me. I also think you are being a little over sensitive.

    And yet you are the only one here who thinks that way. Makes me wonder if you have had a negative experience nursing in public. methinks you haven't.



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