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Bloodwork Results

I don't think it's good, but they haven't analyzed them, yet, and the doc's not in yet to look at it.  They said they'd call me back.  My last draw was on 12/20.  Then, my HCG was 4,163 and prog. was 12.

Yesterday, 9 days later, my HCG is only up to 13,908.  If it were doubling every 72 hours, it should be up to 33,304 yesterday.  It is supposed to double every 48-72 hours, right?  My Prog. was down to 9.2!  My heart is sinking, but I'm trying not to give up until I hear what the doc has to say.  I'm trying not to kick myself for not requesting another draw between the 20th and yesterday after my progesterone dropped from 16.4 to 12.  Though I know that fluctuates through the day, I wasn't happy with that number.

The nurse I talked to wasn't my doc's nurse, she's out today.  The one I talked to was all like "Your HCG is high."  BS it's high.  Not from the 4,163 it was nine days ago!

Just holding out hope until I hear the official word from the doc.  Did anyone else have anything similar to this and have a successful pregnancy?

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  • No advice but lots or prayers that everything is just fine!  I will be thinking about you and hope you get an update soon!!!
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  • No words of wisdom, just wanted to say that I'm thinking of you and hoping that you get more positive news from the doctor.  ((Hugs))
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  • How far along are you?

    The numbers don't look bad to me though I am not an expert.  I would request a script for progesterone. I know after a certain point in time the numbers stop doubling so I am curious as to how far you are.

    When is your next u/s? Hang in there hun, I know this is hard. Sending you lots of t&p's. (Hugs)

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    How far along are you?

    The numbers don't look bad to me though I am not an expert.  I would request a script for progesterone. I know after a certain point in time the numbers stop doubling so I am curious as to how far you are.

    When is your next u/s? Hang in there hun, I know this is hard. Sending you lots of t&p's. (Hugs)

    I should only be 7 weeks today.  Since I was measuring a week behind yesterday, they took blood and set up a second u/s for Tuesday.

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  • ((hugs)) I know the wait is torture. My RE said that they're really looking for a 60% increase over 48hours. Doubling isn't a must.  Have you checked out betabase? They show a big range of normal.  https://www.betabase.info/
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  • I dont know much about betas but I just wanted to give you support. Im hoping for the best for you . Hugs.
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  • I did check out betabase.  I'm horrible with math, so I would have no idea how to figure out the percentage increase over a certain number of hours.  I should be 35 dpo and the chart on betabase only goes up to 30 dpo, but some of the other things I've looked into on there and elsewhere have made me feel a little bit better about this whole thing.  Mine are higher than some other recorded HCG levels that went on to have successful pregnancies. 

    When I plugged my beta numbers into betabase, here's what i get:

    DPOBetaDoubling time from previous test
    1237(none)
    1494 35.68 hrs
    19583 45.58 hrs
    254163 50.77 hrs
    3513908 137.91 hrs

    One thing I read is that higher than 10,000 at 8 weeks is considered normal and that it could start to taper off around 8 weeks.  Hoping he'll just call and want to put me on progesterone.  If he doesn't, I'll ask for it.  Definitely not liking 9.2 there when the low normal is 9.   Then, hoping to see more than what we saw yesterday on Tuesday.

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  • imagemaxsom:
    imagepangnl79:

    How far along are you?

    The numbers don't look bad to me though I am not an expert.  I would request a script for progesterone. I know after a certain point in time the numbers stop doubling so I am curious as to how far you are.

    When is your next u/s? Hang in there hun, I know this is hard. Sending you lots of t&p's. (Hugs)

    I should only be 7 weeks today.  Since I was measuring a week behind yesterday, they took blood and set up a second u/s for Tuesday.

    I would check out the hcg chart that someone posted, I know there is a big range. Sending you lots of positive vibes and prayers that everything is ok. (((Hugs)))

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  • maxsom--I don't have any advice, but all of my fingers and toes are crossed that everything will turn out ok.
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  • imagepangnl79:

    How far along are you?

    The numbers don't look bad to me though I am not an expert.  I would request a script for progesterone. I know after a certain point in time the numbers stop doubling so I am curious as to how far you are.

    When is your next u/s? Hang in there hun, I know this is hard. Sending you lots of t&p's. (Hugs)

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  • imagemaxsom:

    I did check out betabase.  I'm horrible with math, so I would have no idea how to figure out the percentage increase over a certain number of hours.  I should be 35 dpo and the chart on betabase only goes up to 30 dpo, but some of the other things I've looked into on there and elsewhere have made me feel a little bit better about this whole thing.  Mine are higher than some other recorded HCG levels that went on to have successful pregnancies. 

    When I plugged my beta numbers into betabase, here's what i get:

    DPO Beta Doubling time from previous test
    12 37 (none)
    14 94 35.68 hrs
    19 583 45.58 hrs
    25 4163 50.77 hrs
    35 13908 137.91 hrs

    One thing I read is that higher than 10,000 at 8 weeks is considered normal and that it could start to taper off around 8 weeks.  Hoping he'll just call and want to put me on progesterone.  If he doesn't, I'll ask for it.  Definitely not liking 9.2 there when the low normal is 9.   Then, hoping to see more than what we saw yesterday on Tuesday.

    It does begin to plateau and then taper back down. I'm not sure of when all of that starts happening. Also, progesterone rises and falls throughout your day so that might not be awful. Are you on progesterone supplements? Even on it, one of my levels was 11 or 12.

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  • imagelotus88:
    imagemaxsom:

    I did check out betabase.  I'm horrible with math, so I would have no idea how to figure out the percentage increase over a certain number of hours.  I should be 35 dpo and the chart on betabase only goes up to 30 dpo, but some of the other things I've looked into on there and elsewhere have made me feel a little bit better about this whole thing.  Mine are higher than some other recorded HCG levels that went on to have successful pregnancies. 

    When I plugged my beta numbers into betabase, here's what i get:

    DPO Beta Doubling time from previous test
    12 37 (none)
    14 94 35.68 hrs
    19 583 45.58 hrs
    25 4163 50.77 hrs
    35 13908 137.91 hrs

    One thing I read is that higher than 10,000 at 8 weeks is considered normal and that it could start to taper off around 8 weeks.  Hoping he'll just call and want to put me on progesterone.  If he doesn't, I'll ask for it.  Definitely not liking 9.2 there when the low normal is 9.   Then, hoping to see more than what we saw yesterday on Tuesday.

    It does begin to plateau and then taper back down. I'm not sure of when all of that starts happening. Also, progesterone rises and falls throughout your day so that might not be awful. Are you on progesterone supplements? Even on it, one of my levels was 11 or 12.

    Not yet.  Hoping my doc wants to put me on some today just for my own peace of mind until Tuesday.

    BFP #1 9-15-11; EDD 5-28-12. US 6w2d, growth

    BFP #2 12-6-11 and 12-7-11; EDD 8-17-12. US 6w6d measuring 5w6d. Misoprostol Assisted m/c 1-16-12 at 9w3d.

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  • Praying for you and your LO, while it may not be as high as you'd expect they are still going up!! Keep us posted when you hear from the doc and try to stay positive and relaxed. ((hugs))!!
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  • I'm so sorry you're still going through this. I hope your doctor can get back to you soon with some more information. ((Big Hugs))
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  • ((big hugs)) sending tons of t&p ur way and hoping everything is great! :)

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  • I hope you get good news soon. (((hugs)))
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  • Hold on to that hope.  Once they get that high they start to slow down.  Check out my betas.  In the beginning they were doubling like every 20 something hours.  After I hit the 4,000's the doubling took took double than what they had been doing (like 48ish hours).  They stopped checking my betas before I got as high as you did.

    Try not to stress about the progesterone either.  That can fluctuate day by day hour by hour.

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  • I'm no expert, but HCG basically somehow "feeds" the baby until the placenta takes over, and somewhere in the 8th week your placenta should start taking some responsibility. What you just posted about as far as your doubling times looks pretty good. Hoping you get some great news from the ultrasound and then you can ignore the betas!

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  • imageBabe2C:
    Praying for you and your LO, while it may not be as high as you'd expect they are still going up!! Keep us posted when you hear from the doc and try to stay positive and relaxed. ((hugs))!!

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  • I am praying everything is just fine, Maxsom.

    My betas were not doubling in the beginning... But that was at about 4 weeks pregnant, so a little different, but I did have fluctuating betas and now have healthy LO.

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    Remember, ultrasounds are MORE accurate than betas...  After my experience, I hate betas.

  • I don't know anything about betas but I am hoping for the best for you Maxsom. 
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  • Please hold on to that hope. After your levels get to 1200, normal double time is much much higher. Since your progesterone wasn't taken first thing in the morning, it is going to be a bit lower. If you have eaten before you get your progesterone, it can read 50% below where your levels average throughout the day.

    Praying so hard that you get good news next week at your f/u.

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  • I am sorry sweetie, I am praying for you!!!!

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  • Doubling time significantly slows down over time as they get higher. Your numbers don't sound bad. As far as progesterone, it fluctuates throughout the day.

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  • Still crossing my fingers for you! Stay strong and don't give up hope!! 
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  • ((hugs)) and lots of T&Ps sweetie.
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  • My doctor doesn't give up until the numbers fail to rise.... As long as it is increasing things can turn around, some people don't double like textbook 48-72 hours...n hoping this is the case with you
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  • FX and lots of Ts&Ps.  Big hug.

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  • Ditto pp about the slower rise at this point. Rooting for you and looking forward to hearing about a great u/s next Tuesday!
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  • According to my OB once you hit a certain number you no longer double, if memory serves it is around 6 wks. I would not worry to much about those numbers quite yet. An u/s at this point is a much better indicator, push for one to ease your mind. Perhaps they can get you in today. 
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    According to my OB once you hit a certain number you no longer double, if memory serves it is around 6 wks. I would not worry to much about those numbers quite yet. An u/s at this point is a much better indicator, push for one to ease your mind. Perhaps they can get you in today. 

    Thanks.  I already have a follow up set for Tuesday afternoon.  We set that up yesterday before I left the office.

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  • I'm sorry the numbers didn't sound good, FX everything is still fine.  ((Hugs))
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  • I know it is so hard but hold onto that hope. Your numbers are still rising so that's positive and as others have pointed out progesterone fluctuates throughout the day so try not to let that make you too worried. If it makes you feel better I think you should ask the dr for supplements.

    I still have everything crossed for you and am sending you and LO T&P's and   BIG (((hugs))).

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  • I'm still sending T&P's your way Maxsom.

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  • ((Big Hugs)) I think PP have said everything. Try not to stress...you're still in normal range. T & P everything is fine and you'll get some great news on Tuesday!
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