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How do any kids make it to 4?

 I feel like a bad mom today but omg 3 is so, so much worse than 2. He's having one of those days where everything is the "end of the world". Every time I tell him no, it's a total crying meltdown and now he's begging for daddy. When I tell him he's not here he begs, "please, please". Like I can make him magically appear. Right before I posted he wanted a bowl of special K- we don't have any... and when I told him he started seriously sobbing, "WAAAAAH but I waaaaaant it WAAAAH". The mommy on the outside says, "it's ok sweetie, no more whining- we can have a different cereal". The mommy on the inside wants to get in his face and yell, "r u kidding me?!?! You can't be serious... you're freaking crying AGAIN and it's over cereal? Knock it the F off"

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Re: How do any kids make it to 4?

  • This post makes me scared for the future of my patience.
    DD1: 3/31/10 DD2: 9/7/11
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  • Yeah, its super rough. Both E&L have been feeding off of eachother and taking turns initiating a double screaming fit for that past couple of weeks. I have been dreading sending Evan to school next week, but now I secretly think about what it would be like to send him all day :) and Leah is already SO much worse than Evan. sooooo emotional and demanding. DH told me I could put her in daycare if I wanted because he couldn't deal with this all day.
  • imageTinaL99:
    This post makes me scared for the future of my patience.
    Well here's the thing, I'm all about honesty so IF you have issues at 2/3 you don't feel like you are doing something wrong......if I had to put a percentage of how much harder THIS phase of 2u2 is, it would be something around 6,658,422,764,678% harder. :) in other words...start stockpiling booze now.
  • We have days like too. I think the crying over something I can't make possible is what drives me nuts the most. I am sorry kid we are in the car I can't just pour you a sippy of milk. It's just not possible. And it drives me nuts when her next reaction is to cry for daddy. Really? He can't fix it either, I am not the bad guy.

    I was really hoping that three was going to be better than two, but it doesn't sound like it.

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    imageTinaL99:
    This post makes me scared for the future of my patience.
    Well here's the thing, I'm all about honesty so IF you have issues at 2/3 you don't feel like you are doing something wrong......if I had to put a percentage of how much harder THIS phase of 2u2 is, it would be something around 6,658,422,764,678% harder. :) in other words...start stockpiling booze now.

    Sometimes I think we should have done 2u2. I don't know if I can handel tanturms and a newborn. If she keeps it up she may be an only child haha.

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  • imageTelyco:
    imageTinaL99:
    This post makes me scared for the future of my patience.
    Well here's the thing, I'm all about honesty so IF you have issues at 2/3 you don't feel like you are doing something wrong......if I had to put a percentage of how much harder THIS phase of 2u2 is, it would be something around 6,658,422,764,678% harder. :) in other words...start stockpiling booze now.

    Thanks for the advice.  Mmmmmm, Captain & ginger ;)

    I find that DH & I laugh at Stelly's tantrums right now b/c they're so funny/pathetic.  But they're really just starting.  She's a pretty good natured kid but I'm sure we're in for it over the next few years with both girls. 

    DD1: 3/31/10 DD2: 9/7/11
  • I find that the big problem with 3 yr olds (well at least mine) are they are just Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. The good days are GREAT; hilarious, adorable but the bad days are a total and complete sh!tstorm.
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  • 3 is really hard.. and I'm finding 4 is super difficult to.  They are always testing, learning new things, testing more.  More about discovering their limits, your limits, their emotions, your reactions.  It is tough.  My DH has basically been MIA for the past 2.5 years and I want to tear my hair out.
  • Uhg!  I already wrote a good reply once, but I stepped away and Brianna deleted it!

    I have two 2 year old, one just happens to be in a 4 yr old's body!  One of the hardest things is their ability to reason, no is never an acceptable answer to either of them.  Like if Ty sees a McDonalds and wants to stop, he doesn't just say, "Can we go to McDonalds?"  Instead he says something like, "Mommy, I haven't really eaten anything in a while and I am really, really hungry.  Can you get me something to eat?"  My reply, "Yes Ty, we will get something when we get home."  His reply,"But I am really hungry NOW, Mommy.  And we don't have anything I want at home, so we need to stop at that Mcdonalds"  "No Ty, we are not stopping at McDonalds"  Then he proceeds to hit, kick, scream that he is hungry and why wont we just let him eat (he really just wants McDonlds), he throws anything he can get his hands on, kicks his sister across the car, she screams, kicks and hits back.  Turns into complete chaos, they have mastered hurting each other in the car which really sucks.  And if I try to hand him some snacks you have in the car, I end up having to clean that mess out of the car!  It is never ending.

    We actually have a social worker that the school district sends to our home once a week for an hour to help tackle some of the behavior issues.  Even most of her ideas backfire with these two.  The one thing that puts a light at the end, is her (and others before her) reassurance that a lot of the negative behaviors are mostly due to them both very smart, confident, self-driven, free-thinkers and leaders.  That generally kids who follow along with adults without questioning things just don't have those same life skills.

  • I think Rosie hit the 3's a little early, from about 2.5 to 3.5 she was a nightmare. The worst for us was bedtime and leaving for preschool, she was the master of stalling and throwing tantrums. She is better now, but we still have days where I want to run away from my house. I'm so thankful she got better a few months before Thomas arrived, because I probably would have gone nuts if she was like that with a newborn. 
  • and you wonder why i am done after one?

    M is in the 'my do' phase where he wants to do everything himself- that's fine except he wants to also do it when he wants to- at a freakin' snails pace no less! which does not always work for mommy & daddy.

    for some reason he won't get out of the bathtub at night no matter how much we beg or threaten. it is the worst part of the day and all i can do it repeat 'it's all a phase. it's all a phase' over and over

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  • Claire has meltdowns.  I laugh at the cereal story, MrsWhite, because she had a total meltdown because we didn't have pudding.  When she has them I now say, "Sorry but that's how it is." and let her go.  She stops within minutes but it's so hard when she has one of those days because it's constant.  But when she's good and sweet totally makes up for it. 
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  • I didn't think the 2's were that bad......but that is because I hadn't seen the 3's yet. Haha. My DD#1 was actualy a great kid but she went through a HUGE change right when she turned 3....had DD#2 and moved to a new state, which meant, new house, new daycare.....bascially and entire new routine. She has adjusted but it's the whining that will drive me to drink. ha!

    The cereal thing sounds like our house. There are days when things like that roll off her back but then there are days when the tiniest thing sets her off. I have to work on my patience because some days I laugh and then other days I just want to cry. She has now learned the following mommy phrases. I tell her "What do you get when you whine?" And she tells me "nothing". that typically helps defuse most situations and the other is I say "You get what you get............" and she finishes up with "And you don't get upset".

    And when you throw a screeching 1 year old into the mix it's a great time.

     I will say this though.....as I am sitting playing on the computer I can hear my 4 year old playing quietly in the toyroom by herself. Music to my ears!

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  • I often wonder how we made it out of the last year alive. Charlie still has his moments but it has gotten much better. Thank goodness, because Paul is starting to throw mini tantrums & get sassy with me ("NO!" *stomp foot*) And to think I get to go through it 2 more times...
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  • I am definitely finding 3 way more challenging than 2.  Reed was so easy at 2.  He listened and was helpful and always wanted to please me.  Now, the littlest thing can set him off.  Last week I swear we had a full day of meltdowns that culminated with a standoff between him and I at dinner.  He wouldn't eat what I prepared and then thought he would get up from the table, grab some super hero guys and make them dive into his bowl of food.  I took the toys away and put them on top of the refrigerator which prompted a huge tantrum.  I told him when he could sit for 3 minutes without whining or crying he could have them back.  It took 25 minutes just to start the clock on the oven! 

    He has gotten really nasty about sharing with Pierce and usually within minutes of leaving them alone in a room for a minute Pierce is crying and they are fighting over something.  It is constant no matter how much I try to reinforce the "no hitting, kicking, etc."

  • So it sounds like in another 9 months or so I should send K back to Afghanistan so that what little patience she does seem to muster up doesn't get fully depleted. 
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  • OH no don't tell me that! 2 is very frustrating. I hope things get better!
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  • La la la la, I can't hear you, la la la la

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  • imageTelyco:
    imageTinaL99:
    This post makes me scared for the future of my patience.
    Well here's the thing, I'm all about honesty so IF you have issues at 2/3 you don't feel like you are doing something wrong......if I had to put a percentage of how much harder THIS phase of 2u2 is, it would be something around 6,658,422,764,678% harder. :) in other words...start stockpiling booze now.
    OMG. I'm doomed. DD1 already has tantrums. I better buy stock in a liquor company.
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    imageTelyco:
    imageTinaL99:
    This post makes me scared for the future of my patience.
    Well here's the thing, I'm all about honesty so IF you have issues at 2/3 you don't feel like you are doing something wrong......if I had to put a percentage of how much harder THIS phase of 2u2 is, it would be something around 6,658,422,764,678% harder. :) in other words...start stockpiling booze now.
    OMG. I'm doomed. DD1 already has tantrums. I better buy stock in a liquor company.

    Let's open a bar!! 

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  • imageIrisheyes1247:

    La la la la, I can't hear you, la la la la

    Haha!  And it's nice to know we are NOT alone :o

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