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Let's talk about P&P and I'm not referring to pack n' play
I know that the P&P method is not a reliable form of bc but is it really a total fail always? I'm on the pill and just kind of considering other options that don't involve hormones/chemicals. So, if you used the P&P did it work? Did anyone here get pg using the P&P method? Just curious.
ETA: This is, of course, assuming that I would even be able to get pregnant at all which in itself is a shot in the dark. But a girl can dream, right?
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Re: Let's talk about P&P and I'm not referring to pack n' play
Married October 28, 2006, TTC since March 2009 IUI #1-8 w/ clomid = BFN
IVF # 1 May, 2011 = BFP!!! Stillbirth at 26 weeks (placental failure/severe IUGR)
FET #1 February, 2012-- BFP! Beta #1=84 Beta #2= 207 Beta #3= 3,526
Our Rainbow Baby is on the Way!
Again - I haven't been able to sustain a pregnancy so take that with a grain of salt...
But I charted to avoid for a year and a half successfully. We didn't totally abstain during fertile times... mostly P&P if we toured Singapore when I thought we were in the "danger zone". Then I went back on bcp for a few months because I was sick and traveling a lot so my temps were all off and my cycles weren't at all regular and without consistent charting I wouldn't have felt comfortable with P&P only.
BFP 12.20.2010 :: missed m/c 1/2011 around 8 weeks
BFP @ 9dpo 5.24.2011 :: missed m/c 6/2011 around 7 weeks
positive for ANAs (1:40) with a speckled pattern
MTHFR c677t mutation (heterozygous)
*folic acid, baby asprin, Prometrium, acupuncture, Lovenox*
BFP @ 9dpo 2.1.2012 || HCG = 8 : Progesterone = 19.2
2nd HCG @ 11dpo = 40 || 3rd HCG @ 21dpo = over 5000!
Stick, little one, stick! EDD October 15, 2012
We did p&p between DD and DS and it worked great. We would have been fine if it hadn't. We are not using it as our bc method now because we would not be fine if there were an accident.
So I think it's fine if you're in a place where you would be okay with a "whoops."
I feel like anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything here. You (the collective "you") CAN get pregnant with this method. Period. If you're comfortable with that, then by all means use it. If that doesn't work for you, then don't. Why play the odds? There are other non-hormonal bc methods that are proven to be statistically reliable - p & p is not.
I know one person who has seriously used this method - she has four children. Fortunately, she was okay with that, but we all still questioned her intelligence after a while. Clearly this method didn't work!
If this sounds harsh, I truly don't mean for it to be. I'm grumpy today and this topic gets to me.
"There is a fine line between a princess and a witch...thinking you're one does NOT give you the right to act like the other." my grandmother
Thanks to everyone else!
I hated it for this exact reason. Totally throws off the rhythm of things.
I think abh is just saying that she doesn't get people who, after becoming pregnant 3 times, would even consider this a form of birth control.
I personally think it's pretty irresponsible, although that's not quite the right word. Either you are trying to prevent pregnancy or you're not. If you do not want to be pregnant, then use condoms, take the pill etc. If you're at a point where you're open to having a child, then by all means, have unprotected sex. But calling P&P "birth control" in any sense is plain silly to me.
I guess overall it's the non-commitment to parenthood. Accept a baby into your life or don't. But don't leave it to the odds and then throw up your hands and say "oh, this is such a surprise!" Which is my pet peeve when it comes to P&P. Is when people call the baby a surprise. Maybe you are surprised, but the rest of us aren't.
And your subject does say you want to talk about it, so you have to kind of be prepared to hear all opinions on it, negative, positive and WAY negative. That's just how talks go around here
I don't know how it's sucessful for so many people, really. Wherever there are swimmers, there are swimmers (and lots more than we think!) They can even swim in (honest to goodness). The pre is full alone.
We used to give a lecture on this alone back in college days when I was a sex ed. health assistant giving talks on campus - ha!
Thanks Taytee! That's almost exactly what I meant, but as usual, you are much better at phrasing things than I. I appreciate your eloquence.
"There is a fine line between a princess and a witch...thinking you're one does NOT give you the right to act like the other." my grandmother
I was one, too!!
I guess your DH isn't into "porn star style" like mine and Feisty's (WHY do I remember this about you??!?!?!) lol.
BFP 12.20.2010 :: missed m/c 1/2011 around 8 weeks
BFP @ 9dpo 5.24.2011 :: missed m/c 6/2011 around 7 weeks
positive for ANAs (1:40) with a speckled pattern
MTHFR c677t mutation (heterozygous)
*folic acid, baby asprin, Prometrium, acupuncture, Lovenox*
BFP @ 9dpo 2.1.2012 || HCG = 8 : Progesterone = 19.2
2nd HCG @ 11dpo = 40 || 3rd HCG @ 21dpo = over 5000!
Stick, little one, stick! EDD October 15, 2012
OMG! I forgot I ever admitted that on this board!! Bwahahahaa! (For those of you who know my husband, this better not ever come up as a topic of discussion!)
But since I've been re-outed... This is what we did and still do "practice", but I am also in the camp of people who had difficulty getting PG in the first place so it may make zero difference either way. And if I were to get PG again, it would not necessarily be a regretful turn of events for us.
Late to the discussion....
We are successful PNP'ers. And by successful, I mean that we haven't gotten pregnant while doing it. We are extremely consistent with it, unless we discuss in advance that we'll do something different. I know there can be sperm in the pre-juices, but I think one of the things that makes PNP a higher failure rate is the teenage boys (or maybe also men??) who don't pull out in time.
We'll continue using it, when we need BC again, until we decide we are for sure done having kids. Then, maybe look into something more permanent.
We use condoms but there's been a few times over the last couple years that we just PNP. Usually its when we're drunk and its never worth it, its always a tense week or so waiting for my period to show up. And like others have said, its not as much fun to have to quit just at the brink.
I wouldn't ever use it as a primary method. Hell, I think we're being irresponsible by only using condoms. If something were to happen and I got pregnant, I'd be upset but it really would be our own fault. If you don't want to get pregnant, get on BC or get fixed.
I am scared to death of the P&P method! I have a Mirena and it's the best hormonal contraceptive I've had so far.
I think if a couple is OK with the higher pregnancy potential, than go for it. I think if I had a lot of trouble conceiving, I'd probably be more apt to go that route as I hate condoms and BC. However, at this point, DH is going to get fixed real soon.