Success after IF

Devastated-no follies=canceled cycle :( :( :(

Follie check on cd 15 this morning showed 0 follicles. This time last month (and the month I got pregnant with my son) I had a follie so she's making me come one more time on Friday and if there's nothing, she's canceling this cycle, giving me Prometrium to bring along a period and we're moving onto IUI and injectibles.

I am so crushed. Times like these I'm feeling like there's no hope of giving my son a sibling. I just don't understand how it was so "easy" conceiving him and so hard to have another. Isn't it supposed to be reversed???

Anyway, can someone explain to me exactly what injectibles consist of? Is it a shot everyday up until we see follies? Do I still take Clomid or Femera? What about a trigger shot? Does it just depend on the woman's history? Again, bare with me, this is all pretty new to me.

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  • I never did injectibles but I just wanted to say I am so sorry!
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  • I'm sorry. I don't have any advice since I only took Clomid with DD1, but offer lots of (((HUGS))).
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  • I'm so sorry - hopefully she'll see something on Friday. GL sweetie. I never did IUI, only IVF & for me, I had to do Lupron in the morning & nights @ 1st, then switched to Menopur & Gonal-F when I started stimming. The trigger is done the day before ER with IVF & probably the night before IUI, but those who have done injectible IUIs may be able to better elaborate. Sending ((hugs)).
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     Is it a shot everyday up until we see follies? Do I still take Clomid or Femera? What about a trigger shot? Does it just depend on the woman's history? Again, bare with me, this is all pretty new to me.

    I'm sorry, that really does suck. You typically don't take an oral med. Just, typically, 150+ of gonal or follistim (or bravelle or menopur, or a combo) and it's a tiny shot in your belly. Hardly hurts a bit. You do that daily for 5-7 days, then start checking. Often. Typical stim time is 8-11 days????? (total)  Perhaps adjust your dose, "coast" a day or two sometimes" and then trigger. IUI typically 36 hrs after. They'll watch your lining, the trigger will stay in your system for about 5-7 days - you can test it out or just wait a bit for a true stick. I was terrified to make that next step, but it ended up being LESS crabbies from the clomid, and well, it just seemed to work better for me.

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  • (((hugs))) never did iti, so no advice there! Good luck on Friday!
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  • Well poo for no follies! I think Davez gave a pretty accurate description of an injectables cycle. I know it sux to have to move on the the next 'level' of treatments, but IMO, injectables are easy and they work sooo much better than clomid or femara. Tons of luck!!! and a big ole' (((HUG)))
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  • Depending on age and history, my clinic will generally start with Femara + injectables (in my case, menopur and then ganirelix (antagonist)), then trigger with Ovidrel).  Using the combination of Femara + injectables helps keep the cost down because you don't need as much of the pricey injectables, but not every clinic does this.  I respond to Femara (1-2 follicles), but my lining was somewhat thin (5.5) on my last cycle with just Femara, so the next cycle will be Femara + injectables.     
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  • I'm sorry.  I totally get you with it being harder the second time around.  We've been trying on #2 for 15 months now.

    We're moving onto injectables next.  From what I understand and have been told, we give ourselves shots every day.  Have follie checks every other day.  Once they see a mature follie the have you trigger then do IUI.

    Take care.

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  • Thanks everyone for your sympathy and help. It's nice to know what I should be expecting.

    One more question though...anyone know (ballpark) around how much the injections will cost? Obviously it'll differ with each insurance plan but I was just wanting a guesstimate. I'm trying to prepare myself...

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  • I didn't have any mature follies on my first cycle when TTC#2.... the next cycle I had 2 - and I got the twins from it.  I took wheat grass pills that cycle - not sure if they helped, but it can't hurt.

    i never did injectables - only clomid/IUI + trigger. 

    good luck... you'll get there!

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  • I'm so sorry this cycle isn't working out for you.  You can use injectibles and still use Clomid or Femara.  My last pregnancy is the result of femara plus follistim.  We did an IUI where I took very high doses of femara (12.5mg per day cd 3-7) and then I did a shot of 150 of Follistim on cd 8-10.  That cycle I had one nice sized follicle and two smaller ones when I did the trigger shot.

    I've never done an IUI with only injectibles so I can't help you there.

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  • I'm so sorry. ((HUGS))

    Injects are pretty easy and you should respond better. I only did one cycle which resulted in Katie, but I started the shots on CD3 after a baseline u/s and b/w. I did the shots every day, came in for monitoring to see how the follies were growing and when they (it, actually) were large enough I triggered and went in for the IUI 36 hours later. 

  • I'm so sorry.  IVF#2 turned into a very expensive converted iui b/c we didn't have enough follicles to work with so I can understand how frustrated you must be.  Hope you get your BFP soon : )
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  • I'm so sorry!!  How frustrating!!! 
  • A ballpark on stims is about a buck a unit. Cash price thru FF.  (like a 450iu pen costs about $400, give or take) I hear you need more bravelle, but it's cheaper. Gonal and Follistim are the same drug, different manufact'r, some prefer the pen (you dial up a dose, no fuss) but some take the savings of the vials. There is extra in both, btw, sometimes as much as 150iu.

    Insurance? ask what's covered and your max bens available. If you're paying cash, get yourself on the OOP donation list, you can take a chance and shop Freegaragesale (I've heard some stories of sneaky people that rip you off) or just post on here that you're looking to buy some meds and give your email. Many times people are hesitant to donate, but to recoup a little bit of their expense is welcome. (I would always pay shipping on top of it, which can add up, I would only do overnight, scared the product would get too hot or cold sitting on a plane, tarmack or delivery truck.)

     

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