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So F&@#* tired

Ok, so I am grateful DS is not getting up in the middle of the night. I'll start with that.  But why the H8LL is he getting up between 5-5:30?!! He used to sleep until 7. REgardless of what time we put him to bed (7, 7:30, 8, 8:30) he doesn't fall asleep until 8:30 or 9pm, and then he's up in the 5am hour. He's getting 9-9.5hrs of sleep at the most at night.  He is ridiculously cranky in the morning before his nap and he has bags under his eyes.  I can't stand this. He's normally such a good, well-behaved kid but the lack of sleep is getting to him.  Kind of like his mother, normally I'm pretty well adjusted in the mood department but this lack of sleep while being this pregnant is really starting to wear me down.  I know I know, I need to get used to it before March when I will really forget what it's like to ever sleep again. 

We bought the Tot Clock and it arrives today. I don't have much faith it'll work.  Nothing we have tried has kept him from barging into our room in the 5am hour asking for food, to go to the bathroom, or anything else he can come up with.  If we lock him in his room, he just yells for us.

Yesterday, our nanny said that he's acting out from all the transitions - the new bed and potty training. Ok, maybe. He got the new bed almost 2 months ago and he was potty trained a month ago. So definitely possible he's acting out even though he loves his new bed.  So, her suggestion was to bring back the crib and put him back in diapers.  Definitely had to bite my tongue on that one.  

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  • Ds had a sleep regression and resurgence of separation anxiety at right around your LO's age. I have no suggestions other th an adding a gate to his door and continually returning him to bed.
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  • Anyone that shows any lack of sympathy or tells you that you should 'get used to it because it'll be worse in March' needs to stabbed... with a dull knife. And they are not a parent. 

    DD usually gets up at 6:30-7am - when she decides to start her day at 5 something, my heart sinks. As i told DH, "There's something mentally defeating about seeing a FIVE and knowing this is the beginning of the day".

    Good luck, mama - and see if you can sneak in a nap or two, if possible!!! 

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  • ugh, no advice, but I feel your pain. I think there must be something in the air because Warner woke up at 4:30 this morning! He NEVER, EVER wakes up that early. I can hardly remember the last time he woke up before 7am. (man, we're spoiled)

    but I'm hoping that it's just because he is a little sick today. he has a low fever and a yucky cough (no preschool today-boo!), but so far he's in a great mood. I'm expecting a big meltdown at some point, though. (hopefully, not my meltdown because that's possible, lol)

  • You have my sympathy . . . J was doing something very similar for the last 2-3 weeks. Luckily for us, he's still in the crib so he wouldn't always wake us up. But he was just as cranky and irritable and impossible.

    The only thing that kind of helped was getting him to bed earlier. I know you tried. J usually goes down at 6:30 and is asleep between 7-7:30. We put him down at 6:00 on the nights he was super tired, and he would usually fall asleep really quickly. That way, at least if he was up at 5:00, he was still getting 11 hours of sleep first.

    Other than that, I think you just have to ride it out. He eventually went back to his normal schedule, but it was a painful couple of weeks.

    ETA: BTW, when did this all start? J's schedule got thrown off by daylight saving time. Do you think it could be related? My DCP says it can take them up to a month for their circadian rhythms to get back to normal with the time change.

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  • 1st, your Nanny is nuts!

    2nd, I said it before - he knows the baby is coming and he's acting out for attention. He wants to spend every possible awake minute he can with you.

    I would also try a much earlier bed time, start with 7 and go down to 6:30 or even earlier and see if it helps.

    DS is going thru a horrible sleep regression now so I know exactly how you feel (5:00 this morning was our wake-up!) and being pregnant on top of that - I am so sorry!

     

  • I don't see why she thinks the crib would work - wouldn't he just yell for you anyway?  And put him back in diapers?  I am sure you just jumping on that suggestion Huh?

    Do you give him food or let him go to bathroom?  That may be reinforcing his behavior, although you don't want him to have accidents.  I would give the putting him back to bed and reinforcing it is not to wake up with as little interaction as possible.  If that doesn't work after a week or so though he may just be an early riser Sad or it is just a stage.  Like I said in my tot clock post, we have gone from using the OK to wake clock from a morning thing to a go to sleep at night thing. 

  • Ugh, I'm sorry. This won't help with his sleep, but can you go to bed earlier yourself? If you can get to bed at 10, at least you'll be getting 7 hours of sleep if he wakes up at 5.
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  • We've been trying to go to bed at 10:30 so being up in the 5am hour isn't horrible.  The sad part is, I'm starting to feel rested on 6.5hrs or 7hrs of sleep... or, maybe that's a good thing?

     I'm going to try putting him to bed at 7 consistently.  Yesterday (for the nanny, never for me) he took a 3hr nap.  Maybe that's why he's doing ok today (although he's at school this morning so I can't say for sure).  Poor kid has bags under his eyes.  

    He seemingly adjusted to the Daylight Savings without much of an issue. I was worried because for a while he was getting up at 6:30/6:45 so I assumed he'd start waking an hour earlier. Nope.  What I wouldn't give for him to back to waking up at 6:30!!!!!!

    We leave a snack trap of cheerios and a cup of water in his room now.  However, of course that isn't what he wants... he asks for nuts, pancakes, or anything other than what we have provided him.  We take him to the bathroom and put him back to bed.  For the first time ever in his life, he asked to climb in our bed this morning and we were both too tired to say no, but then he just wanted to play so that ended abruptly.  DH tried to get him to sleep in DS's bed with him (which was really cute when I peaked at the monitor and saw them both in a twin bed!) but that failed too.  He just did not want to sleep past 5:30 :/ 

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  • Hmm, just a thought, but when DD2 (who's only 15 months old) was having sleep troubles (the first time around) our pedi told us to shorten her nap to 2 hours tops (or two 1-hour naps).  It really, really helped. Before I just let her sleep as much as she wanted during the day - sometimes up to 4 or 5 hours (between two naps) because I figured that's what she needed. I know your DS is older, but maybe he's napping too long during the day and he's just not tired or it's throwing his schedule off.
  • I had a 5 am wakeup, too! Actually, it was 4:57, which felt much worse than 5:01 would have.

    No advice, but lots of sympathy.

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    Hmm, just a thought, but when DD2 (who's only 15 months old) was having sleep troubles (the first time around) our pedi told us to shorten her nap to 2 hours tops (or two 1-hour naps).  It really, really helped. Before I just let her sleep as much as she wanted during the day - sometimes up to 4 or 5 hours (between two naps) because I figured that's what she needed. I know your DS is older, but maybe he's napping too long during the day and he's just not tired or it's throwing his schedule off.

    Yeah, he typically only sleeps for 2 hours during the day... lately it's been more than an hour and 40.  He's taken a 2 hour nap for over a year now, but maybe he just needs less sleep now that he's older? I'd be fine with that if it were more like 9pm-6:30am! 

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  • It sounds like he was sleeping fine in the bed until recently.

    When we transitioned DD to a bed, it was a disaster from day 1, and we ended up calling a sleep consultant. Luckily, I just talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes, and she didn't charge me. Ultimately she said DD wasn't ready for a bed yet, which doesn't sound like the case for Liam. If you get really desperate, you could call one also. I'll try to dig up the name of the woman I called.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this; I cannot imagine getting up that early!

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    It sounds like he was sleeping fine in the bed until recently.

    When we transitioned DD to a bed, it was a disaster from day 1, and we ended up calling a sleep consultant. Luckily, I just talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes, and she didn't charge me. Ultimately she said DD wasn't ready for a bed yet, which doesn't sound like the case for Liam. If you get really desperate, you could call one also. I'll try to dig up the name of the woman I called.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this; I cannot imagine getting up that early!

    Yeah, he's been doing great in a bed for probably 2 months or more.  Honestly, the only "change" I can think of was taking the child-lock off his door (which he knew how to take off himself anyway, which is why we did it).  Now that he knows he can leave the room and come into our room, that seems to appeal to him.

    We did everything "right" tonight so we'll see if that helps.  He was in bed at 7:20, and he was asleep by about 7:45, a good hour before he normally goes to bed.  We turned his sound machine on (which we only use for naps lately, but we'll try anything!) and we instituted the Tot Clock and taught him how it works (whether he remembers by the morning is another story...)

    If all that doesn't work, I am totally calling a sleep consultant! 

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    It sounds like he was sleeping fine in the bed until recently.

    When we transitioned DD to a bed, it was a disaster from day 1, and we ended up calling a sleep consultant. Luckily, I just talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes, and she didn't charge me. Ultimately she said DD wasn't ready for a bed yet, which doesn't sound like the case for Liam. If you get really desperate, you could call one also. I'll try to dig up the name of the woman I called.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this; I cannot imagine getting up that early!

    Yeah, he's been doing great in a bed for probably 2 months or more.  Honestly, the only "change" I can think of was taking the child-lock off his door (which he knew how to take off himself anyway, which is why we did it).  Now that he knows he can leave the room and come into our room, that seems to appeal to him.

    We did everything "right" tonight so we'll see if that helps.  He was in bed at 7:20, and he was asleep by about 7:45, a good hour before he normally goes to bed.  We turned his sound machine on (which we only use for naps lately, but we'll try anything!) and we instituted the Tot Clock and taught him how it works (whether he remembers by the morning is another story...)

    If all that doesn't work, I am totally calling a sleep consultant! 

    Why not try gating his door? That really worked for ds. He hated the idea that he was trapped in there, so he stayed in bed so that we wouldn't put the gate up.
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    It sounds like he was sleeping fine in the bed until recently.

    When we transitioned DD to a bed, it was a disaster from day 1, and we ended up calling a sleep consultant. Luckily, I just talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes, and she didn't charge me. Ultimately she said DD wasn't ready for a bed yet, which doesn't sound like the case for Liam. If you get really desperate, you could call one also. I'll try to dig up the name of the woman I called.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this; I cannot imagine getting up that early!

    Yeah, he's been doing great in a bed for probably 2 months or more.  Honestly, the only "change" I can think of was taking the child-lock off his door (which he knew how to take off himself anyway, which is why we did it).  Now that he knows he can leave the room and come into our room, that seems to appeal to him.

    We did everything "right" tonight so we'll see if that helps.  He was in bed at 7:20, and he was asleep by about 7:45, a good hour before he normally goes to bed.  We turned his sound machine on (which we only use for naps lately, but we'll try anything!) and we instituted the Tot Clock and taught him how it works (whether he remembers by the morning is another story...)

    If all that doesn't work, I am totally calling a sleep consultant! 

    Why not try gating his door? That really worked for ds. He hated the idea that he was trapped in there, so he stayed in bed so that we wouldn't put the gate up.

    Good idea! 

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