VBAC

Does anyone have any good resources about VBAC with a big baby?

One OB at my practice has said to me TWICE, "If the baby is 10lbs we are not doing a VBAC." The first time I ignored her comment because she doesn't even deliver, but this last time I did ask, "Why does it increase your chances of a rupture?" She didn't really answer the question, but said something like, "Uhhh, the baby won't fit," and then went on to talk about about how we want to do what is best for the baby (of course, lady)! I chose not to get into it because, honestly, I haven't done a lot of reading on big babies and VBAC. I was under the impression that unless my pelvis was super narrow (it's not), it shouldn't matter, but maybe I'm wrong. Just wondering if anyone has experience with this or any great reading. Thanks for helping.
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Re: Does anyone have any good resources about VBAC with a big baby?

  • I don't have the specifics, but I'm pretty sure somebody else will chime in with the studies.  I do know that Nosoup had a VBAC baby that was something like 10 lb. 10 oz.
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  • I don't know how she could make a blanket statement like that. I would think it would depend on the size and proportions of the mama and the baby.  I would I think would have a better chance of birthing my 9lb small-headed, long and lean baby than my friends 7lb, 95% head baby.
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  • I would love to hear get some information on this as well. My DD was born 9 pound 6 ounces I am currently 14 weeks pregnant with my second and would LOVE to have a VBAC, it is my decision to do this per my doctor. However I will say that it is not guaranteed that I will have my doctor on the day I deliver so I would like to get some good resources so I am prepared to fight.
  • My VBAC baby was 10 lb 10 oz, like chicsub said. My first son, who was a c-section, was 8 lb 4 oz. It was all in how they were lined up (my first was posterior, my second was anterior). I didn't have any sizing estimates (and in fact, turned down a routine NST u/s the day before I went into labor with DS2), and he was at least 41.5 weeks when he was born.

    This is a good post about suspected macrosomia, and I think she has some links to studies at the end: https://birthsen.tmdhosting930.com/?p=1531 

    This post from the Unnecesarean doesn't talk directly about VBAC with big babies, but it does talk about the risks associated with c-sections and macrosomia (and might be worth it for some talking points? Read the comments, also!). https://www.theunnecesarean.com/blog/2011/11/20/how-i-would-counsel-a-woman-with-a-suspected-large-baby.html

    Basically, when macrosomia is suspected, it's best not to do anything - active labor without an epidural is preferable, but not 100% necessary. Induction and c-sections aren't a cure-all, because the EDD could be off, and the baby could be too young, or the sizing estimates are off, and the c-section was unnecessary. 

    I personally would turn down any and all sizing u/s, and if u/s becomes necessary for some other reason, I'd request a size estimate not be taken. The main thing to remember about macrosomia is that it can only be truly diagnosed *after* the baby is born, so it's sorta pointless on all counts to speculate, you know?

    Shoulder dystocia happens in about 1% of births, with the majority happening to babies who aren't macrosomic. The risk goes up to 5% with macrosomic babies, but again, you don't know if your baby is going to be macrosomic for certain, so it's not a huge risk.

    Last thing: I had a midwife I saw occasionally when I was pregnant with DS2 who would tell me idiotic things about how I couldn't go past 41 weeks as a VBAC. When I asked her why not, she gave me the reason that VBAC was less successful with women past 41 weeks (probably because they get pushed into a RCS!). Anyhoo, her comments would drive me nuts, and I hated having appointments with her, but I did my best to ignore her. Providers can be idiots. Good luck!

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  • My first was over 10 lbs and my second was 8.5.  For my VBAC my midwife said that a large baby might lower my chances but we would go for the VBAC regardless.  I didn't have any growth ultrasounds.

     That said, I know PLENTY of people who birthed babies over 10 lbs, so to just make a blanket statement that a baby that size wouldn't fit would make me lose respect for her as a doctor.

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  • I'm glad you've asked this question as I'm facing the same thing.  My babies tend to run large, and in my state "once a c-section always a c-section" just about (it's difficult to find hospital/doctor beauracracy that isn't interfering and pushing women to c-sections...even first time moms.  This 10-lb thing I'm convinced is an arbitrarily picked weight tied into that aspect.  I've another month to go and the baby already weighs 7lb14oz and at the rate he's going he'll be right at the 10lb mark, supposedly.  The doc at the us/nst said I should wait a week and then do everything possible to have the baby (think sex, spicy foods, walks, etc) or they'll put me in c-section...which I've been fighting against since the beginning (my first child was a c-section followed by two natural births).  There is no medical reason they are telling me..just the best for the baby line.  This thread is the first I've even ever heard of macrosomia.  And, having looked it up as a baby with excessive weight....really?  10lbs?  A doula at our church was just talking about having home delivered a 14lb baby.  Her youngest was 10lbs and  had the shoulder displacement issue.  My son was just a couple of ounces away from 10lbs and was completely natural.  Again, I'm having to fight it and I'm less than thrilled with having that stress.
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  • Thanks everyone for the info.  My first was 9lb 8oz, c/s due to size and a posterior position.  I'm hoping for a VBAC this time (my doc is on board, with some caution) and am grateful for all this information.
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  • my vbac baby was 10lb 1oz and was born after only three hours of labor and one hour of pushing.  i'm a firm believer in the idea that we donmt generally make babies we can't birth.  i saw no research that indicated the size of the baby had any effect on the chance of rupture.
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