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Tricare and TTCing

Hello ladies!  I don't know why I have not frequented this particular message board (I usually post under the Trouble TTC board).  Anyways, My husband has been Active Duty in the Army for 11 years now and is stationed at Ft. Lee, VA.  We have been married for 10 years and decided a year ago that we were ready to TTC.  

The problem is that I have irregularly long cycles (one being 119 before provera kicked in).  So after about 6 months (while we were stationed at HAAF) I went to see the dr  and got a referral for an RE because she suspected I had PCOS.  Luck has it that we PCSd before I could get in with the RE I was referred to.  

Once I got to Ft. Lee I set up an appointment to see if I could get the referral again, but was referred to an OB instead.  There has been no testing to see if I have PCOS with the OB and I feel like I am getting the run around; Although I do have a HSG scheduled for next Tuesday.  Saturday will hit the year mark for our TTC journey and I don't know what my next step will be.

 Should I go back to my PCM and request an RE referral? I called the OBs office and expressed my concern and they said that after the HSG they can send me to an infertility clinic.  My concern with that is I know Tricare does not cover infertility.  They cover testing to see why you are not conceiving but they do not cover procedures such as IVF or IUI because they are not 100%.  

 Have any of you ladies gone through this?  Do you have any advice on what my plan of action should be?  

Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!! 

~~Mickey~~
TCC since 12/2010;
began to see OB for fertility issues 09/2011 Married 05/20/2001
Prior forms of BC: BCP, Depo, IUD (removed 12.2010)
Erratic Temps & Long cycles: 63 days, 92 days, 24 days, 119 days(Provera), 59 days(w/Provera)
HSG- All Clear
started weekly acupuncture
Ovulated 12/15/11 (non-medicated)= BFN @ 14 DPO image

Re: Tricare and TTCing

  • An RE is an infertility specialist, so what's the difference between the original referral and what the OBis saying? You'll be sent to the RE for more testing in all likelihood. If it is deemed necessary that you should undergo IVF or IUI, then that is your decision to make personally and financially. I've been to an RE. The purpose of my visits were to attempt to find a diagnosis for my recurrent miscarriages, and also to have a game plan. If you are diagnosed with pcos, an RE will help you with treatment options. Tricare won't cover fertility procedures, but they will cover treatment.
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  • imageLissa832:
    An RE is an infertility specialist, so what's the difference between the original referral and what the OBis saying? You'll be sent to the RE for more testing in all likelihood. If it is deemed necessary that you should undergo IVF or IUI, then that is your decision to make personally and financially. I've been to an RE. The purpose of my visits were to attempt to find a diagnosis for my recurrent miscarriages, and also to have a game plan. If you are diagnosed with pcos, an RE will help you with treatment options. Tricare won't cover fertility procedures, but they will cover treatment.

    This is not true....I've talked to many women who underwent fertility treatment and they all said that Tricare covers the meds like Clomid, and also IUI's.  Most said that they didn't cover IVF's but I think it depends where you are because I have run into a few cases where they did cover it.  I would ask for a referral to an RE because of your long cycles, I find it odd they made you wait a year when there was clearly a problem from lack of periods.

  • imageGismo123:

    imageLissa832:
    An RE is an infertility specialist, so what's the difference between the original referral and what the OBis saying? You'll be sent to the RE for more testing in all likelihood. If it is deemed necessary that you should undergo IVF or IUI, then that is your decision to make personally and financially. I've been to an RE. The purpose of my visits were to attempt to find a diagnosis for my recurrent miscarriages, and also to have a game plan. If you are diagnosed with pcos, an RE will help you with treatment options. Tricare won't cover fertility procedures, but they will cover treatment.

    This is not true....I've talked to many women who underwent fertility treatment and they all said that Tricare covers the meds like Clomid, and also IUI's.  Most said that they didn't cover IVF's but I think it depends where you are because I have run into a few cases where they did cover it.  I would ask for a referral to an RE because of your long cycles, I find it odd they made you wait a year when there was clearly a problem from lack of periods.

     This isn't exactly true in my experience.  A handful of large MTFs have RE clinics and perform IUI and IVF st greatly reduced cost.  You do still have to pay, and medication coverage is sketchy.

     OP, I'd recommend sitting down with the RE's billing office and discussing how, in their experience, Tricare has been handling claims.  It's been far too long since I've personally gone through diagnosis and treatment for me to feel comfortable giving you really specific advice.

    Good luck! 

  • Thank you ladies for responding!  I guess the main question at the moment is Who should be the one to refer me? The OB I was referred to or my PCM?  

    I know that in any case of IF I may incur some type of financial responsibility.  Since I am not teaching at the moment, I just want to make sure that we are prepared.  

     Thank you again.  Hope yall have a wonderful weekend :-D 

    ~~Mickey~~
    TCC since 12/2010;
    began to see OB for fertility issues 09/2011 Married 05/20/2001
    Prior forms of BC: BCP, Depo, IUD (removed 12.2010)
    Erratic Temps & Long cycles: 63 days, 92 days, 24 days, 119 days(Provera), 59 days(w/Provera)
    HSG- All Clear
    started weekly acupuncture
    Ovulated 12/15/11 (non-medicated)= BFN @ 14 DPO image
  • imageNSL:
    imageGismo123:

    imageLissa832:
    An RE is an infertility specialist, so what's the difference between the original referral and what the OBis saying? You'll be sent to the RE for more testing in all likelihood. If it is deemed necessary that you should undergo IVF or IUI, then that is your decision to make personally and financially. I've been to an RE. The purpose of my visits were to attempt to find a diagnosis for my recurrent miscarriages, and also to have a game plan. If you are diagnosed with pcos, an RE will help you with treatment options. Tricare won't cover fertility procedures, but they will cover treatment.

    This is not true....I've talked to many women who underwent fertility treatment and they all said that Tricare covers the meds like Clomid, and also IUI's.  Most said that they didn't cover IVF's but I think it depends where you are because I have run into a few cases where they did cover it.  I would ask for a referral to an RE because of your long cycles, I find it odd they made you wait a year when there was clearly a problem from lack of periods.

     This isn't exactly true in my experience.  A handful of large MTFs have RE clinics and perform IUI and IVF st greatly reduced cost.  You do still have to pay, and medication coverage is sketchy.

     OP, I'd recommend sitting down with the RE's billing office and discussing how, in their experience, Tricare has been handling claims.  It's been far too long since I've personally gone through diagnosis and treatment for me to feel comfortable giving you really specific advice.

    Good luck! 

    I've been seeing the RE here at Ft. Bragg for a year now and have done 4 IUIs and will be doing IVF in April. As far as coverage goes, the only thing I paid for during my IUI cycles was the thawing of sperm and the sperm washing. All of my meds, blood draws, and ultrasounds were covered. While the cost for IVF is significantly higher, my meds, blood draws, and ultrasounds will still be covered by Tricare. The money I will pay out of pocket will go to the off-post IVF lab. 

    To answer your question about who to get the referral from, OP, I got mine from my PCM. It's good that your OB has scheduled you for the HSG. That's a start. Good luck!   

    TTC since 2007. Dx PCOS 6/2010
    4 unsuccessful rounds of Clomid
    Clomid 50mg - BFP #1 - February 7, 2010 Missed miscarriage March 25, 2010
    Clomid 100 mg - BFP #2 - October 28, 2010 Chemical pregnancy November 4, 2010
    IUI #1 - Gonal-F + Ovidrel = BFN
    IUI #2 - Femera + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + Endometrin = BFN
    IUI #3 - Gonal-F + Ovidrel + Endometrin = BFN
    IUI #4 - Gonal-F + Ovidrel + Endometrin = BFN
    IUI #5 - Menopur + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + Endometrin = BFN
    IVF #1 - Microdose Lupron Flare protocol = BFN
    FET = BFN - lost all remaining embryos
    IVF 2.0 - In progress. 20 retrieved. 16 mature. 10 fertilized with ICSI. 3, grade I embryos transferred, 7 made to freeze. Currently in the 2ww.
  • imageNSL:
    imageGismo123:

    imageLissa832:
    An RE is an infertility specialist, so what's the difference between the original referral and what the OBis saying? You'll be sent to the RE for more testing in all likelihood. If it is deemed necessary that you should undergo IVF or IUI, then that is your decision to make personally and financially. I've been to an RE. The purpose of my visits were to attempt to find a diagnosis for my recurrent miscarriages, and also to have a game plan. If you are diagnosed with pcos, an RE will help you with treatment options. Tricare won't cover fertility procedures, but they will cover treatment.

    This is not true....I've talked to many women who underwent fertility treatment and they all said that Tricare covers the meds like Clomid, and also IUI's.  Most said that they didn't cover IVF's but I think it depends where you are because I have run into a few cases where they did cover it.  I would ask for a referral to an RE because of your long cycles, I find it odd they made you wait a year when there was clearly a problem from lack of periods.

     This isn't exactly true in my experience.  A handful of large MTFs have RE clinics and perform IUI and IVF st greatly reduced cost.  You do still have to pay, and medication coverage is sketchy.

     OP, I'd recommend sitting down with the RE's billing office and discussing how, in their experience, Tricare has been handling claims.  It's been far too long since I've personally gone through diagnosis and treatment for me to feel comfortable giving you really specific advice.

    Good luck! 

    I guess it's different at every duty station because I know where I am everything is covered except for IVF's.  

  • Would you consider driving up to Bethesda, MD, to be seen at the Infertility Clinic at Bethesda Naval Medical Center (or whatever it's called these days)? I ask because three years ago, we PCSed to Fort Lee just as we'd reached the point in our IF journey that we needed to do IVF to get pregnant. Before we moved, I drove from Fort Irwin to San Diego to be see at the Infertility Cinic at one of the MTFs there. Until we did IVF, I did not have to pay a penny for meds or procedures because they were done at a military infertility clinic.

    Granted, it was three years ago, but we paid $6k for IVF with ICSI. The clinic is not posh like a private clinic, but they get good results. Let me know if you have any questions! Good luck!
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  • imageSmudges*Mom:
    Would you consider driving up to Bethesda, MD, to be seen at the Infertility Clinic at Bethesda Naval Medical Center (or whatever it's called these days)?

     

    I believe that is or was Walter Reed which closed its doors recently.  I would have been more than willing to drive there especially since I have a cousin who lived near it. 

    ~~Mickey~~
    TCC since 12/2010;
    began to see OB for fertility issues 09/2011 Married 05/20/2001
    Prior forms of BC: BCP, Depo, IUD (removed 12.2010)
    Erratic Temps & Long cycles: 63 days, 92 days, 24 days, 119 days(Provera), 59 days(w/Provera)
    HSG- All Clear
    started weekly acupuncture
    Ovulated 12/15/11 (non-medicated)= BFN @ 14 DPO image
  • I have had 7 months of infertility treatment all paid for. They pay for everything up to iui and ivf and that is hit or miss. There is a lot they can do fertility wise before iui and ivf. I would go to your pcm for an re refferal

    Married 11/27/09 and TTC right away
    Dx: Complete septate uterus with cervical duplication, endometrial polyps, PCOS, endometriosis, hypo thyroid, luteal phase defect
    4 uterus surgeries to correct my complete septum and to remove polyps and 2 years of seeing the RE, medicated cycles and IUIs
    Baby 1 and 2: BFP 3/3/11 with 2 babies EDD 11/1/11, M/C 4/6/11
    Baby #3: 8/11 pregnant EDD 4/27/11 and m/c:(
    Baby #4: 10/12/11 BFP! EDD 6/16/12m/c 10/26/11
    Baby #5: 3/13/12 BFP! EDD 11/25/12 ANOTHER m/c :(

    Baby #6: 2/14/13- BFP! EDD 10/24/13, CP 2/19/13
    Baby #7: 3/15/13- BFP! EDD 11/27/13, another CP
    Baby #8.  BFP 5/19/13 EDD 1/22/14. 8 was not our lucky number

    4th septum resection on 5/31/13.
    Baby #9: 6/29/13 BFP. C section scheduled for March 5th!

    My miracle baby was born March 5 at 9:33am. He was 8 lbs 12.5 oz and 21.25 inches long!

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  • imageMickeyjazz:

    imageSmudges*Mom:
    Would you consider driving up to Bethesda, MD, to be seen at the Infertility Clinic at Bethesda Naval Medical Center (or whatever it's called these days)?

     

    I believe that is or was Walter Reed which closed its doors recently.  I would have been more than willing to drive there especially since I have a cousin who lived near it. 

    Yes, Walter Reed Army Medical Center closed this summer. Most everything is being transitioned over to the new Walter Reed Military Medical Center (what used to be called Bethesda Naval Medical Center). I found this link: https://bestivf.org/. They also have a Facebook page.

    To be seen at WRAMC, I had to get a referral from my PCM. I found getting into IVF program a little frustrating, BUT, I was coming from another MTF IF clinic and I was under a time crunch (we were at Fort Lee for only six months). But once into the program, it got much easier. I share this to let you know that even if it seems frustrating, it will be worth it!!!! Let me know if you have any questions, I'm happy to share about my experiences.
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  • imagelauren2_00@yahoo.com:
    imageNSL:
    imageGismo123:

    imageLissa832:
    An RE is an infertility specialist, so what's the difference between the original referral and what the OBis saying? You'll be sent to the RE for more testing in all likelihood. If it is deemed necessary that you should undergo IVF or IUI, then that is your decision to make personally and financially. I've been to an RE. The purpose of my visits were to attempt to find a diagnosis for my recurrent miscarriages, and also to have a game plan. If you are diagnosed with pcos, an RE will help you with treatment options. Tricare won't cover fertility procedures, but they will cover treatment.

    This is not true....I've talked to many women who underwent fertility treatment and they all said that Tricare covers the meds like Clomid, and also IUI's.  Most said that they didn't cover IVF's but I think it depends where you are because I have run into a few cases where they did cover it.  I would ask for a referral to an RE because of your long cycles, I find it odd they made you wait a year when there was clearly a problem from lack of periods.

     This isn't exactly true in my experience.  A handful of large MTFs have RE clinics and perform IUI and IVF st greatly reduced cost.  You do still have to pay, and medication coverage is sketchy.

     OP, I'd recommend sitting down with the RE's billing office and discussing how, in their experience, Tricare has been handling claims.  It's been far too long since I've personally gone through diagnosis and treatment for me to feel comfortable giving you really specific advice.

    Good luck! 

    I've been seeing the RE here at Ft. Bragg for a year now and have done 4 IUIs and will be doing IVF in April. As far as coverage goes, the only thing I paid for during my IUI cycles was the thawing of sperm and the sperm washing. All of my meds, blood draws, and ultrasounds were covered. While the cost for IVF is significantly higher, my meds, blood draws, and ultrasounds will still be covered by Tricare. The money I will pay out of pocket will go to the off-post IVF lab. 

    To answer your question about who to get the referral from, OP, I got mine from my PCM. It's good that your OB has scheduled you for the HSG. That's a start. Good luck!   

     

    I will have Tricare Reserve Select in Jan. So Lauren Tricare covered IUI and meds? I might have to make a trip to Fay. I have relatives in NC. 

  • I am active duty and the duty station I am at I see a OB. To see a RE would be an out of pocket expense we can't afford right now. She has done all the proper workups for me and I trust her fully. Tricare has covered the clomid and will cover the other meds if I need them. She does the IUI's also without charge, but I do have to pay for the washing off post.  She did say if I need IVF, then we will have to pay out of pocket. When I looked into it, it is less expensive than the civilian world. The 5 MTF's they do it at, they do it because they need the "experience". So if it comes to that you could weigh your options of seeing and being treated at a MTF or by a civilian.

    GOOD LUCK!

    Married June 2007
    IUD Removed Dec 2009
    TTC April 2010
    HX: IF workup in June '11
    Me: 29, Left Tube Blocked
    DH: 28, Low Sperm Count/Morph
    Trying for IUI Aug, Sept, Oct '11 - no go O'ing on left
    Nov - 50mg clomid, 4 follies, wrong side - BFN
    Dec - 100mg Clomid - IUI#1 - BFN
    Jan '12 Break Cycle and RE Consult
    19Jan2012 - CD#1
    Trying to Conceive Ticker
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