April 2011 Moms

Anyone else not making it financially?

While we're being open about sex, etc., I thought I'd ask... 

Today was pay day (we get paid the last working day of the month), and it's almost all gone already. I paid bills online and sent away nearly $3,000 (mortgage, student loan, gas bill, electric bill, payment toward Liam's hospital bill, payment for dental surgery I had--that sort of stuff) with just a click of the mouse. Jared teaches guitar part-time in the evenings, and if I hadn't deposited his paycheck that he got yesterday, it probably would literally all be gone today.

I don't know how to even figure out if we could afford daycare for him to get a full-time job during the day. He's thinking about looking at 2nd or 3rd shift factory work, maybe, so we wouldn't need daycare.

I think there are only two daycare centers in town that I would need to research, and I don't even know if there are openings. I hate to sound stupid, but do I just call and ask if they have openings and then ask about costs, or what?

Ugh. So stressful. Thanks for any "plan of action" you can help with.

 

 

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Re: Anyone else not making it financially?

  • I too am amazed at how just a few clicks of the mouse makes all the money go away.  I don't work right now and that is hurting us.  However when I looked into daycare's we found out that when you take everything into consideration (gas, paying daycare, extra diapers - they change more often, etc.) I might take home $1000 a year!  So for now I'm staying home, when Chloe is older daycare will be more affordable so hopefully I will be able to get a job.  Right now my job is finding deals on things we need.

    As for daycare's, just call them up and see if there's an opening.  Most will not give you the prices until you actually go look around.  However, I found that once I had the price from one place if I specifically said on the phone "Daycare X is this much a day, are you competitive with that price" I would get straight answers.  In home daycare's tend to be cheaper (I'm on the waiting list for 2).

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  • we pretty much aren't.  dh lost his job in june, and my check isn't enough to pay the bills.  h is now in a new career, but it's commission-based, and we still haven't seen any money.  we're looking into moving in with my mom for a few years to save money.  it sucks.

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  • imageSouthSideDrea:
    I'm sorry dude, I have no advice. We are getting by, but we wouldn't be if we had to factor dayacre into things.

    The other band Jared was with had really steady gigs, so he was bringing in about $800-$1,000 each month if they played a gig every weekend, but, alas, Lark Drive went the way of most bands. (Male lead singer's ego split up the band.) He's with a new band now that should have paying gigs, but it's hard depending on guitar-teaching and other musician work. Thanks, though.

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  • We are kind of in the same situation. It really does suck to see money fly out the window as fast as it does.

    My husband and I work opposite shifts so that one of us is always home with Charlotte and we can avoid paying for daycare. If you go that route, just know that it comes with its own difficulties - we see each other in passing in between me getting home from work and him leaving for work. It is very rare for us to have a day off together - this weekend will actually be the first weekend in 4 months that we will get to spend together as a family with no work obligations. It gets difficult to keep going at times - but it's what we have to do right now. And Charlotte makes all the difficulty more than worth it!

  • I'm sorry :( No advice, just wanted to agree with the rest that money does suck a big huge fat one. 
  • Have you switched your student loans to income based repayment (if that would help your situation?). What about getting any discounts through the hospital or dental surgeon? Even though the part of our hospital bill we owed was our (wonderful) $4000 deductible, the hospital knocked off around $1000 just for filling out a few forms and we're not below the poverty level or anything like that. Do you have a nursing school nearby? A lot of people get in-home nannies that are current nursing students. My sister did this while she was in nursing school and she said it was wonderful. It pays them better than a retail job, but costs you less than traditional daycare (usually). Little things help... energy efficient lightbulbs, turning off unused lights, turning down the heat a bit and bundling up (although it's obvious you can only do that so much with a baby), see if a budget plan would be cheaper or more consistent with your gas or electric company. Tell Jared to open an Etsy store of market his art talents also. :) 
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  • And I know it's obviously more drastic, but it your mortgage more than rent would be? Would it be cheaper to downsize or rent?

     Also, are you eligible for a forbearance on your student loans to get yourself a little bit more ahead? 

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  • I'll admit that money is very tight for us too.  I've paid my mortgage late several times.  I just started the process to try & get a mortage modification through my lender.  My credit score is shot to hell now so going the refinance route is a joke.  Hopefully they approve my modification & lower my mortgage payments.  That will help me tremendously.  We wouldn't be in this position if my paid off car didn't go belly up on me.  We had to buy another car & we had to finance it.   
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  • While our health care system (Canada) is far from perfect, I thank God every day that we don't have any hospital bills or doctor bills to pay for with birth and doctor visits.  I'm feeling reallt pinched these days but the government pays be 55% of my annual wage for a year to stay home with DS.  If I hadn't spent so much money in ND and Las Vegas this summer/fall I'd likely be ok.  As a couple we are doing ok but like I said I'm feeling pinched and I'm certainly not used to asking for money or if I can spend money.  I'm starting to get antsy to get back to work to make better money again!!  Money and especially the lack of it sucks hard!!
  • Thanks so much for all of the ideas, Guys. It's not so drastic that we need to move or anything like that, it's just that I wish I could put more money into paying things off faster--instead of paying the minimum amounts on everything. Like, our dishwasher died, so we got a new one on a Sears credit card for no interest for 6 months, and that kind of thing, and I pay $100 a month for Liam's overnight hospital stay he had over the summer.

    The Etsy shop really is a good idea. Jared's been wanting to sell paintings and stuff like that. I guess I feel like everything we do (except for my salaried professorship) is for bits of money here and there. Like, I have a massive textbook manuscript sitting on my desk to review for $150. Stuff like that. So, I do all of this extra work on top of an already crazy job, and we still barely get by.

    I think maybe even talking Jared into going back to school might work. The GI Bill pays for his tuition plus living expenses, and he took this quarter off except for taking choir. If he could take most of his classes online (except for his music classes--which the professor schedules around us), maybe that would be enough money that things wouldn't be so tight. (And then he'd eventually have a degree and go into the super-profitable world of being a music teacher :-)

    ETA: The student loan payment plan I'm on, I'm paying until I'm 55. I don't think there's any way to make that payment less per month. And I'm already on the budget plan with the gas company. These are all great ideas, though! Thanks again!

     

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  • I'm sorry things are so tough! Money and family can be a tough balance. DH and I work opposites shifts to avoid daycare. It's tough, but on the up side we are always happy to see each other! As the primary breadwinner in my family, I understand the extra burden you feel to keep it all together. Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover helped us focus on our finances and keep our budget inline. Just having a plan for where all the money goes helped me emotionally. It was scary to realize that we pay almost as much in student loan debt as we do for our mortgage every month, but empowering to make a plan.
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  • Brad does freelance work. Without those extra paychecks, we'd be struggling really hard. It doesn't help that I have student loans up the yinyang.
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  • I spent today worrying about this very thing. Kyle is currently on the phone trying to get some bill lowered. I am trying to figure out a budget. What is killing me right now is that I am supposed to be eating a completely organic diet. It's more expensive especially because up until now food has been part of my pay. I know that there ate places we could save money we just have to get serious about it.
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  • It's definitely stressful. I just switched jobs for where I was paid bimonthly to now biweekly and getting paid on the 2nd instead of today has totally screwed up my budget!!

    If you're looking into daycare, maybe think about part time? I know they have different rates for 3 days and then there are rates for half days too. Just see if there's anything they can do for you. We ended up getting A 10% discount. So that right there saves us almost $150 a month! 

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  • DH works overtime every single day by going in early so that we can pay our bills and still have a little going into savings. If it's a bad month with extra expenses, he'll take on a couple car jobs (fixing cars is a hobby of his). You gotta do what you gotta do, and we look at it as every little bit counts. I totally get the frustration though, money is a big stressor. We'd love to buy a house next year, but we're also committed to my staying at home with Evie, so it's hard to say whether we can really make that work.

    Hang in there and take the little stuff when you can get it. :)

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    I spent today worrying about this very thing. Kyle is currently on the phone trying to get some bill lowered. I am trying to figure out a budget. What is killing me right now is that I am supposed to be eating a completely organic diet. It's more expensive especially because up until now food has been part of my pay. I know that there ate places we could save money we just have to get serious about it.

    I know what you mean! I try to do high protein/low carb and work out as much as possible, and eating healthy is SO expensive. Just doing things like buying the lunch meat without the preservatives is crazy expensive compared to the lunch meat with all the nitrates, etc. :-( 

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  • Yeah, DH quit his job to be a SAHD, and it has been quite an adjustment.  We were frankly spoiled before, eating out quite a bit, buying electronics, etc.  Right now I am keeping my fingers crossed that I get a big enough bonus to pay off one of our debts this December.  If my bonus doesn't come through (I should find out in 2 weeks) we will be in really rough shape.  And it is horrible financial practice to have to count on a bonus - ugh!

    It is hard for me because I grew up very poor and my parents were just horrid with any money they did have.  I racked up a crazy amount of credit card debt during college because I just didn't have a clue and spent years paying it off.  I feel like we are starting to fall back into credit card debt again and it is stressing me out.  Once our standard expenses are paid monthly, I think we have like $300 for gas/groceries/anything that isn't rent/electricity/car payment.  Not a lot of wiggle room.

    I want to be a better financial role model for DD than my parents were (& I will be!), but it sometimes feels like the economy is out to get us! Stick out tongue

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    Yeah, DH quit his job to be a SAHD, and it has been quite an adjustment.  We were frankly spoiled before, eating out quite a bit, buying electronics, etc.  Right now I am keeping my fingers crossed that I get a big enough bonus to pay off one of our debts this December.  If my bonus doesn't come through (I should find out in 2 weeks) we will be in really rough shape.  And it is horrible financial practice to have to count on a bonus - ugh!

    It is hard for me because I grew up very poor and my parents were just horrid with any money they did have.  I racked up a crazy amount of credit card debt during college because I just didn't have a clue and spent years paying it off.  I feel like we are starting to fall back into credit card debt again and it is stressing me out.  Once our standard expenses are paid monthly, I think we have like $300 for gas/groceries/anything that isn't rent/electricity/car payment.  Not a lot of wiggle room.

    I want to be a better financial role model for DD than my parents were (& I will be!), but it sometimes feels like the economy is out to get usStick out tongue

    I completely understand you on the counts that I "bolded." Jared and I grew up really poor, too, and I feel like we're trying hard, but it's tough. When I went to grad school, the advice was to go to the best school you got into, and then you'd get paid enough to make up for the costs. Not. Even. Close. I started out $120,000 in student loan debt to make $34,000 a year at my first professorship.

    I make more now, but I'm still living paycheck to paycheck and have about the same amount of wiggle room you do. The way we go out, is Jared plays music at restaurants, and they pay us in gift certificates. Which, it's nice that we get to go out, but you can't pay bills with gift certificates.

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  • Honestly ever since our baby was born we have overextended ourselves each month financially - whether it's the furnace, Christmas gifts, being in a wedding, or just necessary quality of life improvements we have acquired our first bit of credit card debt ever --- guess it's just part of parenthood life but it sure doesn't feel good!!  We keep saying (things said in every household): The Budget Starts Tomorrow!  And we are financially responsible people, there's just been a lot of big things that we've had no choice but to spend on.
  • Things are tight here as well. We had to buy a new car before the twins arrived and that added a car payment which we hadn't had in 5-6 years. Add in the medical bills (things that were covered last time around with my old insurance, an item that my OB's office was told was covered but wasn't, husband getting shingles, etc.) and just when I think we'll have some breathing room in January since the medical debts will be paid off this month another debt popped up from car repairs this summer. Oh, and our rent is going up 10% on the first of the year.

    We're doing some creative adjustments with when things are being paid so that we can actually do a little bit of Christmas shopping. We have two gifts for our oldest (one was free from Disney Movie Rewards) and nothing for the babies. I know that the kids won't really care but I have the mom guilt for not being able to provide the type of Christmas for them that I'd really like to. We have nothing for each other and I'm doing a lot of homemade gifts for our friends and family.

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