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Flying with little kids (article)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/flying-with-little-children--go-to-the-back-of-the-plane.html

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I was really surprised when I read this article. I fly quite a bit with my LO-- but I admit she is always a "lap child" so we could never technically be separated. Now that she turns two in January, I am worried about possible seat arrangements getting changed by the airlines at the last minute to put her in a different row than myself or H.

Anyone had an experience like this or are these just horror stories to make an article?

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Re: Flying with little kids (article)

  • We've only flown twice but each time it was 4 adults and 2 children, one lap child, one w/ ticket and we had seats near e.o. I cannot imagine anyone putting a 2 y.o. in a different row!!

    If you find yourself in that situation, ask the person who's stuck next to a strange 2 y.o. if (s)he would like to switch seats, chances are, that person would!

     

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  • I've never had a problem reserving my seats in advance, unless it's a situation like the one in the article where there was an aircraft change and the new plane had a different seat configuration.

    Most sane airline employees would not make a 2-year old sit in a different row than her parent. (Note I said "sane" - because there are obviously some insane ones out there.)
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  • We had this happen when our flight got cancelled and we got rebooked on a different flight. I put DD (4 at the time) in her own row and then told the guy next to her my situation. He gladly switched seats over sitting next to a chatty kid the whole flight. DS was put in a row by himself FAR from DH and me. It took quite a bit of pleading with people to get DH and DS' seats together. I was surprised by the number of passengers who outright refused to move seats, even people flying alone. We were flying from LAX to DCA so it wasn't like it would have only been an hour! 
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    We had this happen when our flight got cancelled and we got rebooked on a different flight. I put DD (4 at the time) in her own row and then told the guy next to her my situation. He gladly switched seats over sitting next to a chatty kid the whole flight. DS was put in a row by himself FAR from DH and me. It took quite a bit of pleading with people to get DH and DS' seats together. I was surprised by the number of passengers who outright refused to move seats, even people flying alone. We were flying from LAX to DCA so it wasn't like it would have only been an hour! 

    That is crazy cakes! And scary. I know people don't like babies/kids on flights, but those that outright refuse to switch seats aren't helping the situation at all.

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  • imageSoonToBeMrsDTS:
    We had this happen when our flight got cancelled and we got rebooked on a different flight. I put DD (4 at the time) in her own row and then told the guy next to her my situation. He gladly switched seats over sitting next to a chatty kid the whole flight. DS was put in a row by himself FAR from DH and me. It took quite a bit of pleading with people to get DH and DS' seats together. I was surprised by the number of passengers who outright refused to move seats, even people flying alone. We were flying from LAX to DCA so it wasn't like it would have only been an hour! 

    It seems to me this would be a huge liability issue for the airlines. What if a kid got molested or somehow hurt? And wouldn't this technically make them an unaccompanied minor?

    And what a bunch of asshats on your flight! I'd much rather switch seats than sit next to somebody else's kid, especially if there wasn't a parent with them. The worst flight I've ever taken was one where I was sitting next to an unaccompanied minor who coughed and sneezed the whole way and never once blew his nose or covered his mouth. Yes, I got sick.

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  • I flew to Boston on Sunday and there was a family of 6 (mom and dad plus kids that ranged from 5ish to 12ish). The 5 year old was in my row and his mom was at least 6 rows back. The kid was crying and the mom looked upset plus the other kids were a little frantic because they were spread throughout the plane. NO ONE in the row would switch with them. I offered my aisle seat and took the mom's middle seat and she literally started crying because I was being nice. I was really appalled by the middle age dudes around me who were being so rude- seriously it is a one hour flight- give up your seat so this poor 5 year old can sit near his mom.

    When I got to my newly appointed middle seat the guy next to me said something along the lines of, 'i would never have switched an aisle for a middle.' my response was, 'you sound like a total d*ck.'

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  • imageSoonToBeMrsDTS:
    We had this happen when our flight got cancelled and we got rebooked on a different flight. I put DD (4 at the time) in her own row and then told the guy next to her my situation. He gladly switched seats over sitting next to a chatty kid the whole flight. DS was put in a row by himself FAR from DH and me. It took quite a bit of pleading with people to get DH and DS' seats together. I was surprised by the number of passengers who outright refused to move seats, even people flying alone. We were flying from LAX to DCA so it wasn't like it would have only been an hour! 


    Wow, that is horrible. Do people WANT to sit next to a crying kid for 5 hours? Are they totally dumb? I don't get it.

    I can maybe understand if the kid is older, like a 10-year old. But not a toddler!
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    When I got to my newly appointed middle seat the guy next to me said something along the lines of, 'i would never have switched an aisle for a middle.' my response was, 'you sound like a total d*ck.'



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  • I don't understand what they gain by NOT switching seats.  Do they think the family is going to all up and get off the plane? "Oh, it's ok.  We'll just wait for the next one."  Seriously?  I certainly wouldn't.  "You want to sit next to my wild, cranky 2 1/2 year old?  TAKE HIM.  This mama could use an hour or two to sit back and read a book.  Haven't had time in 2 1/2 years.  Oh, and here's a diaper and some wipes.  He hasn't has his morning BM yet, so have at it."
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  • imageWinesNotWhines:
    imagevictoria1212:

    When I got to my newly appointed middle seat the guy next to me said something along the lines of, 'i would never have switched an aisle for a middle.' my response was, 'you sound like a total d*ck.'



    Yes  I love you.

    me too!

    did he respond?

     

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    imageWinesNotWhines:
    imagevictoria1212:

    When I got to my newly appointed middle seat the guy next to me said something along the lines of, 'i would never have switched an aisle for a middle.' my response was, 'you sound like a total d*ck.'



    Yes  I love you.

    me too!

    did he respond?

     

    no he did not respond, just put on his ear phones and blared music. the college student next to me was laughing. it was equally awesome that he got yelled at by the flight attendant for having his iphone on while we were getting our safety lesson since they had already told everyone to turn off their electronic devices.

     

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  • imageSofka:
    imageWinesNotWhines:
    imagevictoria1212:

    When I got to my newly appointed middle seat the guy next to me said something along the lines of, 'i would never have switched an aisle for a middle.' my response was, 'you sound like a total d*ck.'



    Yes  I love you.

    me too!

    did he respond?

     

    Me three!

    I saw the article in a newspaper earlier this week and was horrified that any gate agent wouldn't move people around to keep a little kid with at least one parent, whether for liability concern or an attempt to mitigate the crying of a kid left alone in a scary place with strangers for the first time.  Middle aged dudes not offering up their seats doesn't really surprise me at all, though - I'm thinking back to being pregnant and only women old enough to have kids, old people who deserve their own seat, and the occasional (rare) gentleman would give up a seat on the Metro to a standing PG lady.

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  • This is ridiculous - and I agree, PLEASE, TAKE my 2.5 yo.  It will take about 5 seconds for you to look around for me and beg me to switch seats.
  • imageWinesNotWhines:
    imagevictoria1212:

    When I got to my newly appointed middle seat the guy next to me said something along the lines of, 'i would never have switched an aisle for a middle.' my response was, 'you sound like a total d*ck.'



    Yes  I love you.

    I love you, too.

    This article scared the crap out of me, too. We drive 8+ hours for the holidays, and it seems totally worth it to avoid some of these crazeball happenings.

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  • I fly a lot and I have seen parents separated from kids a few times.  The only times I have seen people not willing to switch was when it was a long flight and involved giving up an aisle seat for a middle seat.  It is really difficult for super tall or large people to fit into the middle seat so I kind of understood.  Each time, the flight attendant was able to work it out though by switching multiple people around. 
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  • We have done a lot of travel this fall with both girls, much of it last minute due to family medical emergencies.  On one part of the travel I was just with DD#1 who just turned five  and another time with both girls (and no DH, DD#2 is 21 months) and twice we were given separate seat assignments.  In both cases, the gate agents were able to make the seat changes for me, but only after I pushed for it.  In both cases they were incredibly unsympathetic, but apparently I had my "mother about to go crazy on you" look and they made things happen.  It's just unacceptable in my mind to allow a young child to sit by him or herself.
  • Wow. Airlines really don't care about anything but filling the seats and having a safe flight, IMO. I was flying for my best friend's funeral with my husband and they told me they couldn't do anything about having us both in middle seats in different parts of the plane. And that's less their issue, I think, then separating a child from a parent, which just seems like a terrible idea.

    But what really kills me is that people won't move. I would not want to sit next to someone else's little kid, first of all, but I also would just feel like such a total d-bag if I kept my aisle seat or whatever as opposed to doing the decent thing. I think the misery of flying (and the fact that sometimes you pay extra for that aisle seat or whatever) is a contributing factor, but I don't understand how people so lacking in compassion or a sense of moral compass over their own convenience.

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  • this happened to me this summer.  DD and I were flying and I always call the airline to book our flights and pay the in person booking fee so that I am 100% sure we get seats together.  Everything was fine.  Then, when I went to check us in at home and print our boarding passes, our seats were different.  The plane type had changed so the seat arrangement was different.   DH was driving us to the airport so I spent the entire car ride on the phone with customer service explaning to them that she could not sit by herself.  It got fixed and I think we had our new boarding passes printed up at the gate, after we'd gone through security with with incorrect ones.  It was not that big of a deal.  I am a frequent flyer member for the airline that it happened on so I called the frequent flyer club help line, not the regular customer service line, and I had bought the tickets with miles.  I'm not sure if that made things easier.  If it had not been changed, I think people would have taken one look at her with her DVD player, headphones, DVDs, crayons, books, snacks and certainly moved instead of volunteering to operate the DVD player for her and getting her snacks/books when she wanted them. Good luck, Jenn 
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