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Dealing with IF uncertainty

Hi ladies, kind of bummed out today and wondering if it will ever happen for us.  If I knew that at some point we would be blessed with a BFP and our take home baby, it would make the waiting and the treatments much more bearable - not knowing if it will ultimately lead to anything is just really hard.  Any tips for dealing with the uncertainty?

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Re: Dealing with IF uncertainty

  • I have no tips other than having a plan for next month, 6 months from now, etc. always helps, but I totally agree with you. I often feel like I am running a marathon except I have no clue when the end is and if I will ever finish the race. If someone could just say to me "Okay, you will have to do 3 more IVFs, but then you will get to take home a baby in your arms," I think I'd be golden.
    IUIs #1-3 (1x unmedicated, 2x Clomid) = 2 BFNs, 1 m/c at 7w3d
    IUIs #4-6 (injects) = 3 BFNs
    IVF #1 = BFN
    FET #1 = BFN
    FET #2 = BFN
    IVF #2 = BFP, b/g twins lost at 20w due to partial abruption/PPROM
    IVF #3 = c/p 5w2d
    Long-shot Clomid/Prednisone cycle before next IVF = BFP, our beautiful, healthy girl born 6/26/13!
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    TTC again March 2014
    FET #3 - May/June 2014
    -
    all embryos arrested before xfer - back to the drawing board...
    IVF #4 - July/August 2014 
    beta 1 (11dp3dt) 220, beta 2 (13dp3dt) 671, beta 3 (19dp3dt) 10762
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  • I actually started going to therapy. I was just completely out of coping mechanisms and was having a harder and harder time dealing with each failure. I'm hoping it will help me figure out how to accept the fact that I cannot plan this. I've only been once so far, but I think it will be good for me.
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    Beta #1 = 153, Beta #2 = 269, Beta #3 = 675
    1st U/S = TWINS!! EDD 12/29/12
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  • No advice really just wanted to say I'm right there with you.  I do have faith that I will have a baby someday but right now it's hard.  Like tst, I've considered going to therapy.  If this cycle fails I'll schedule an appt.

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    IVF March 2012 - BFP! - Severe OHSS = 8 days in the hospital in kidney failure
    No heartbeat at 10w6d
    FET August 27,2012 = BFP!
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  • I don't have any advice, but just wanted to let you know you aren't alone.  Uncertainty is one of the worst parts about IF, the abbreviation is a giant IF!  I really try to focus on there here and now, and it's a conscious effort most of the time.

    Dh and I have also gotten more involved in a few social groups and spend more weekends doing things with other friends who don't have children.  We are lucky in that regard because I know it can be difficult to find groups of friends who aren't all baby all the time.  

    I've also started taking advantage of the support opportunities at my RE's clinic.  (It's CNY Fertility center- and they have nightly relaxation webinars and weekly/monthly online support even if you aren't a patient there.  At first I was really nervous about actually putting myself out there, but you can easily just listen in to the webinars and nobody will know :) )

    I have found that it really does help.  Everyone is so positive there, and even when I am feeling jaded it helps brighten my mood and give me a little more hope for next cycle.  

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    4 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, HcG, Crinone +TI cycles= all BFN
    Lap in 2012 to remove large unresolving cyst discovered endo and double lobed ovary.
     6 Gonal-F, Cetrotide, HcG, Crinone IUI cycles= All BFN,
    1st IVF w/ICSI- June '13 Antagonist: Gonal-F, Menopur, Ganirelix, HcG, Estradiol, Crinone= 7 retrieved, 4 mature, 1 unfertilized, 2 abnormally fertilized, 1 normally fertilized.  2DT of only embryo and our miracle BFP.
    Our beloved baby boy was born sleeping Oct. 13, 2013 due to pROM/IC/Uterine infection.
    2nd IVF w/ICSI- Feb. '14 EPP/lupron/antagonist: Estrace, lupron, HGH, Gonal-F, Menopur, HcG, PIO, lovenox, doxy/dex.=21 retrieved, 16 mature, 15 fertilized!!  5dt of 1 blast/ 6 frozen. BFP!  Beta 1 9dp5dt:83.9  Beta 2: 11dp5dt: 145.2  Beta 3  14dp5dt: 497  Please be our sticky rainbow baby!

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  • Great ideas - I wish the support network was bigger in my area - we don't have any support groups.  Maybe I could start one.  Also, I am a therapist and I am also in therapy - it is a great idea and way to vent and process all the pain, uncertainty and sometimes just plain anger to someone.  I definitely recommend therapy to anyone. 
    TTC since 7/2010
    Dx: Anovulation, Endo, only one working tube and ovary
    IUIs 1-5 = BFNs
    IVF #1 - ER 7/9 3dt 7/12
    Transferred two beautiful 8 cell embryos
    Beta #1 7/26 = 484 Beta #2 7/28 = 1045
    . U/S 8/10 showed one baby with a strong heartbeat!
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  • FarmerLynda recommended the book, Conquering Infertility. It is a great book and teaches you lots of coping mechanisms along with justifying all the feelings you are having. I downloaded a copy off iBooks for $10-$12. I hope this helps you as much as it has helped me. 
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    4 cycles of Clomid unmonitored (I do NOT recommend!) March-June 2011
    Started w/ RE
    July-September: Clomid, hCG trigger, 3 hCG boosters, 1 blood test and 1 BFN
    September/October: HSG (all clear) Clomid, hCG Trigger, IUI and 3 hCG boosters
    *****10/24/2011 BFP! Beta #1. 113 Beta #2. 322. EDD JUNE 29, 2012
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    FarmerLynda recommended the book, Conquering Infertility. It is a great book and teaches you lots of coping mechanisms along with justifying all the feelings you are having. I downloaded a copy off iBooks for $10-$12. I hope this helps you as much as it has helped me. 

    I second this recommendation. I thought it was a great book...lots of different ideas on how to cope.

    IUIs #1-3 (1x unmedicated, 2x Clomid) = 2 BFNs, 1 m/c at 7w3d
    IUIs #4-6 (injects) = 3 BFNs
    IVF #1 = BFN
    FET #1 = BFN
    FET #2 = BFN
    IVF #2 = BFP, b/g twins lost at 20w due to partial abruption/PPROM
    IVF #3 = c/p 5w2d
    Long-shot Clomid/Prednisone cycle before next IVF = BFP, our beautiful, healthy girl born 6/26/13!
    ~~
    TTC again March 2014
    FET #3 - May/June 2014
    -
    all embryos arrested before xfer - back to the drawing board...
    IVF #4 - July/August 2014 
    beta 1 (11dp3dt) 220, beta 2 (13dp3dt) 671, beta 3 (19dp3dt) 10762
  • I'm dealing with very similar feelings, particularly today.

    My acupuncturist gave me one good piece of advice that I found quite helpful:  when you find yourself thinking of all the what-ifs and feeling of doom for the future, try to focus on the next step and the next step only.  Try not to look so far into the future.

    Though it is definitely easier said than done, when I am able to stop my thoughts from running wild and remember to do that, it does help alleviate some of those moments of acute anxiety over IF...

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  • I've been in the same boat, Ms. H. I have started going to an infertility Bible study that meets 1 wed night a month. I have thought about seeing a Dr.... but heck, that's even more money! I may have to bite the bullet though if we have to start injects b/c I'm not sure how I'll handle a BFN with them.

    ((hugs)) I wish there was a way to know for sure too. I think that is why I've been feeling so down lately is b/c I have always been confident that it would work...and now after 2 1/2 years that confidence has finally faded into serious doubt that we'll ever get pregnant. 

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    **TTC since 04/09, C/P 02/02/10; 4 weeks, 3 days**
    **Dx: Anovulation, Hypothryroidism, Mild Endo, Pituitary Adenoma (prolactin issues), PAI-1, MFI **

    **7/10: Clomid + TI= BFN**
    **3/2/11: 1st RE appointment**
    **DH= Morph= 2%, Motility= 30%**
    **HSG= All clear!!**
    **3/11: Femara + Pregnyl + TI= BFN**
    **5/17/11: Laparoscopy / hysteroscopy = mild endo**
    **7/11: Novarel + IUI #1= BFN (7mil, 75% motility, 2% morph)**
    **8/11: Femara + Novarel + IUI #2= BFN (11mil, 35% motility, 1% morph)**
    **11/11: Femara + Novarel + IUI #3= BFN (9mil, 2% morph)**
    **Jan 2012: Follistim (75ius) + IUI #4= CANCELLED due to cyst -put on bcp**
    **Feb 2012: Follistim (75ius) + Novarel + IUI #4.2= BFFN (2.5mil, 13% motility, 1% morph)**
    **Mar 2012: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5= CANCELLED due to 35mm & 14mm cysts**
    **On med break indefinitely...IF Sucks!**

    **Jan 2013: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.2= CANCELLED due to high prolactin level, MRI scheduled, pituitary adenoma found, put on Dostinex**
    **Mar 2013: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.3= CANCELLED due to uterine polyp, surgery scheduled for polypectomy and D&C**
    **03/22/13: Hysteroscopy, polypectomy and D&C**
    **May 2013: Finally got to start a cycle!!! Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.4 = BFFN (6mil, 74% motility, 2% morph)** 

    **Jun 2013: Decide to start IVF**
    IVF w/ICSI #1 (Long Lupron Protocol)
    06/26/13: Start BCPs
    07/02/13: HSG #2= all clear
    07/15/13: Start Lupron 10 ius
    07/25/13: Suppression check
    07/28/13: Start stims (225IUs Follistim + 75IUs Menopur) drop to 5 IUs Lupron
    08/01/13: Monitoring: 12 follicles all about 10mm, E2- 313
    08/04/13: Monitoring: 18 follicles (15mm, 13mm, a few 11mm, rest 10mm or below) E2- 1,505
    Start Augmentin- antibiotic prep
    08/06/13: Monitoring: 13 follicles (18mm, 17mm, rest b/w 15mm-16mm!) Ready to trigger!! E2- 2,248
    08/08/13: ER-- 14R, 13M, 10F 
    08/11/13: One fertilized late, we now have 11 embryos!
    08/13/13: 5dt-- 2 blasts (Sheldon and Penny) 3AA and 3BB, none to freeze
    8/23/13: BFFN... Sheldon and Penny didn't stick**

    **8/29/13: Follow up... bad fragmentation issues. Changing protocol to Antagonist for round #2 coming soon! Also started on 81mg Aspirin after getting blood panel done and found out I have PAI-1**

    **Oct 2013: After large cysts, finally starting IVF #2**
    IVF w/ICSI #2 (Antagonist Protocol)
    BCPs started back in Sept due to cysts
    10/27/13: Start stims (225 IUs Gonal-F + 75 IUs Menopur)
    11/03/13 - 11/05/13: Add Ganirelix to the mix
    11/06/13: 3 follicles at 18mm-- Ready to trigger!
    11/08/13: ER-- 17R, 13M, 8F
    11/13/13: 5dt-- 2 blasts (Luke and Leia) 5AB and 4AB, 1 frostie
    11/20/13- 11/23/13: light positives on FRERs and Wondofos
    11/22/13: BFN per RE office (under HCG of 10)
    11/27/13: CP ::sigh::

    *12/03/13: Follow up...great response and quality this time, was given 50% chance of it working, just didn't stick. Great plan for 2014! 

    **Jan 2014: Last IVF of our SRP**
    IVF w/ICSI, freeze all, then FET
    12/27/13: Start BCPs
    01/19/14: Stims (375 IUs Gonal-F + 75 IUs Menopur)

    Congratulations Cutebride!! --TWINS!! Congratulations, Luvie, on your sweet boy! Congrats, Jess! So happy for you ladies! <3<3  
    ~~Also best of luck to Kati, illinigal, and youngin!~~

    *S/PAIFW*

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  • Thanks for the tips ladies, definitely some ideas to follow up on there.  Also glad to know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
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