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advice on how to respond? poll...

So exactly a month ago, I posted this about an insensitive PG "friend":

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/57644861.aspx

We have not talked much since that day, and last night I saw that she emailed me.  Subject line was "hey", so I thought maybe she wanted to reconcile or actually see how things were going with me.  Nope!!  Instead I got this:

"Hey Chels,

Do you know anything about Gestational Diabetes?"

That's it.  No "how are you?" or anything.  DH was right next to me when I saw it, so we started brainstorming how I should respond to her.  Here's what we came up with for responses, but any suggestions are welcome!

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Beta#1 (12dp3dt)= 353, Beta#2 (15dp3dt)= 1466, Beta#3 (22dp3dt)= 14,139, First u/s: TWINS!!
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Re: advice on how to respond? poll...

  • That is just cruel and insensitive.  I am so sorry.  I would write out all the things you would love to say in reply, but file it away and ignore her email.  You aren't going to have her see things for how they aught to be seen so just move on from the situation.  Is that too passive?  GL. 

    Countless BFN(s)
    Moving to IVF

    IVF1 (ICSI): Long Lupron
    6R. 3F. 3DT. 8Cell 1Grade 2Embies. 1Frostie.
    Beta 1/22: 14 Beta 1/24: 24 Beta 1/26: 28
    Round One Result: Chemical Pregnancy

    Pressing Forward

    IVF2 (ICSI/AH/ACU): Microdose Lupron Flare
    13R. 11F. 5DT. 2TFR'ed. 1Frostie.
    Round Two Result 4/30: Harsh BFN

    FET. 2TFR'ed.
    Round Three Result 6/25: BFN
    Where do we go from here?

    Moving forward with CCRM in 2013
    ODWU revealed blocked tube(s). Lap 2/15.
    Bilateral Tubal Ligation. Stage IV Endo.
    Finally some (tough) answers.


    IVF3 (ICSI/CCS): Antagonist with EPP
    13R. We have 3 CCS Normal Embryos!


    Lupron Depot: May 2013 to August 2013
    Long awaited FET on 9/3. 2TFR'ed.
    BFP on FRER 5dp5dt: IN SHOCK!
    Beta1 9/10: 152.7! Beta2 9/12: 378! Beta3 9/14: 1224! 

    1st ultrasound 10/1: TWO beautiful heartbeats!  Overjoyed!

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  • Even though it would feel AMAZING to reply with one of those.....I would just ignore it. But still. BLAH. she sucks.

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    (Live in Europe) TTC since 1/2010
  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    OMG I LOVE THIS!!!!  Thanks!

    After 5 TI Clomid cycles, 5 IUIs, and 2 IVFs we finally got our BFP!
    Beta#1 (12dp3dt)= 353, Beta#2 (15dp3dt)= 1466, Beta#3 (22dp3dt)= 14,139, First u/s: TWINS!!
    After 10 weeks of bedrest, our two little ladies joined us at 28w6d
    Lilypie Premature Baby tickers
  • What a jack! I'd text her a picture of me giving her the middle finger.
  • imageBareBethC:
    What a jack! I'd text her a picture of me giving her the middle finger.

    LOL!!!!  I would totally want to do that, but I wouldn't...and I don't really think you should either.  I might be more inclined to just ignore her.  She's kind of a b!tch.

     
    me 33/DH 36
    ttc since 10/2008; d/x: mild MFI, stageII endo
    ~~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~~
    11 IUI’s = 1 m/c (7w4d)
    IVF#1 January 2012 BFN, FET #1 April 2012 BFN
    Surprise BFP October 2012 m/c (7w), Surprise BFP April 2013 m/c (6w4d)
    IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762
    U/S 1 @ 6w4d = 1 little frogger with HB of 118, U/S 2 @ 7w3d measuring right on track with HB of 160
    Stick Frogger Stick! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!   It's a Girl, EDD April 7, 2014

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  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    While I think this is a great response - I would just ignore the email and avoid her.

    TTC since 10/06 - Went to RE after 6 months of TTC due to AMA -Diagnosed with MIF 5/07, only option IVF with ICSI - IVF #1 cancelled due to cyst, never got to ER - IVF #1.5 10/07, BFP - Robert Andrew born 7/30/08 Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers
  • I love your responses, but I'd probably just ignore her too.  Less fun, but it does get the message across. 

    TTC since November 2009
    Mild MFI, irregular cycles, HSG only showed left tube open
    IUIs #1-3: Femara -- BFN
    IUI #4: Follistim + HCG boosters -- BFN
    Sept./Oct. 2011 IVF#1: Long Lupron, 3dt of 2 -- BFN + 1 frostie
    Surprise BFP 11.21.2011: missed m/c at 9w2d, D&C 12.27.2011
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  • My reply would be one word long: No.
  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    I can;t put into words how much I love this!

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    TTC since March/April 2010
    DX: MFI - less than 1 million sperm, 26% motility
    DH put on anastrozole to increase counts
    June/July 2011 100 mg Clomid + TS IUI#1 & IUI 2 - BFN :-(
    Forced break due to DH getting spinal surgery in August 2011
    IVF - January 2012: BFN
    FET in April 2012 - BFP at 6dp5dt! Beta #1 at 9dp5dt: 82.5, Beta #2 at 12dp5dt: 352 Beta #3 at 19dp5dt: 6000, saw heartbeat and one little bean at 5W6D!
    After nearly 3 years of waiting our LO was born December 18th 2012!
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  • imageeponine7682:
    imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    I can;t put into words how much I love this!

    YesYes 

    Me: 27, DH: 28 TTC since 11/09
    2/10 & 3/10 Clomid 50mg-BFN
    5/10-Lap Surgery for Stage 2 Endo
    3/11-IUI#1 with Follistim and Menopur-developed mild OHSS= BFN
    6/11-IUI#2 with Follistim -developed moderate OHSS= BFN!
    7/11-FSH-11, AMH 1.6
    9/11-ttc naturally with positive thoughts :)
    10/6/11-POSITIVE pregnancy test!!! 15dpo BETA-220
    6/14/2012- Riley Harper arrived!! We love our little girl
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  • imagemadhatterxo:
    imageeponine7682:
    imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    I can;t put into words how much I love this!

    YesYes 

    let me google that for you is such a great site... even if you don't send that to her I'm sure you will find other great uses for it. It makes you wonder if people intentionally try to be so thick. 
    (Live in Europe) TTC since 1/2010
  • I like a combination of the first and third options:

    "It's diabetes you get while you're pregnant. Clearly I have never experienced it.  It's nothing to worry about. Just relax, I'm sure you'll be fine".

    I'm torn though . . . Part of me agrees with the previous posters, that you should not reply.  But another part of me would really really really want to reply - just to prove a point.

    Maybe end the email with "I'm fine, thanks for asking".

    My Journey to Motherhood
    Me 36, DH 42
    7.5 years of TTC ... It never gets any easier.


    Baby Girl # 1
    TTC Since January 2009
    Reproductive Endocrinologist diagnosed us "Unexplained Infertility".
    After 3 years . . . 3 IUIs . . . and 3 IVFs . . . our miracle GIRL arrived on August 6, 2012.

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    Baby Girl # 2
    TTC Since June 2013
    Got pregnant on our own without Fertility Treatments - January 2016!  Thank you snow storm Jonas!
    EDD 10/15/16
    At 20-week anatomy scan found IUGR (Intrauterine Growth Restriction), and very low Amniotic Fluid.  Now, I'm High Risk and have weekly ultrasounds to monitor fluid and growth.  If baby runs out of room or is too growth restricted, they will deliver ASAP.  My current goal is to make it to 28 weeks!   


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  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    Hands down - this is the winner ... lol

    TTC 1/2010 DH Dx - Azoospermia 2/2011
    Hysteroscopy 3/2011 2 Polyps removed 4/2011
    DH on Clomid / Arimidex to address hormonal issues - Sperm found July 2011!
    IVF #1 September 2011 - ER 9/8/2011- 8R, 5M - icsi - 1 made it to transfer - BFFN :-(
    IVF #2 Lucky November 2011 - ER 11/25/2011 - 15 eggs!, 13 mature, 10 fertilized with isci - 7 made it to transfer! Transferred 1 - 8 cell and 2 - 7 cell. BFP!!!!
    1st U/S - Twins! 2nd U/S - 3 heartbeats!!! - HOLY COW!!!
    Prayers for our take home babies!
    2 babies born on 3/27/12 and lost. Last baby born on 3/29/12 and lost at 20 weeks.
    My angels grew wings shortly after birth.
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    IVF #3 July 2012 - ER 7/17/2012 - 10 R. 5 F. 4 made it to ET
    Transferred 2 on 7/20/2012 no snow babies :-(
    Beta on 7/31/2012 = BFMFN
    A miracle gift expected to come to us through adoption around 9/2012
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    IVF #4 October 2012 - New RE. Doing PGD Testing. 8 R, 7F, 2 made it to 5 day blast for PDG testing. Both Normal (Thank you G-d!!!) 1 boy and 1 girl
    transferred one beautiful 5day blast (girl)
    Please G-d the almighty one - let this be our take home baby!
    Beta #1 158, Beta #2 318, 1 Absolutely magnificent HB at 175! Thank you G-d!!!
    Baby Girl born August 5th. Thank you G-d for our precious miracle.
    AMA. PAIF & SAIF always welcome - I need all the prayers I can get!

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  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

     

    I LOVE THIS! But I would have just ignored her.. if she ever asks why you didn't respond, just say you didn't receive the e-mail. Must have gotten lost/deleted. Peopel suck!

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  • imageMitzi Bishi:
    imagemadhatterxo:
    imageeponine7682:
    imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

    I can;t put into words how much I love this!

    YesYes 

    let me google that for you is such a great site... even if you don't send that to her I'm sure you will find other great uses for it. It makes you wonder if people intentionally try to be so thick. 

    LMAO

    Me: 35 DH: 37 TTC since 4/2010
    DX: 6/9/2011: Azoo ICSI/IVF only option for biological child
    IVF #1: ER - 9/26 * ET - 10/1 * beta#1 10/13 - 140 * beta#2 10/17 - 477 * beta#3 10/20 - 1101
    1st u/s at 6w6d - one hb * 2nd u/s at 8w3d - no hb detected 11/10/11 * natural m/c 11/13/11
    FET #1 Jan/Feb 2012 - 3 delays - cancelled 2/13
    FET #1.2 - May/June 2012 - ET 6/6/* beta#1 6/15 - 95 * beta #2 6/19 - 322 * beta #3 6/22 - 940
    7/6 1st u/s @ 7 weeks - one beautiful hb - released from RE
    EDD 2/22/2013
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  • imageMitzi Bishi:

    I'd send her this... nothing like passive aggressive snark.  

    https://tinyurl.com/625dlz6 

     

    if i were u...and u were me :) i would sooo send this!!!

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  • Ugh!! Can't believe she sent that to you. I would probably respond with a simple No, or just ignore the email completely. I think ignoring would also make your point!

     

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    IVF #1-July 2011 7/9/11-Started Stims
    7/20/11-ER:No eggs in 4/5 follicles. Left the 5th follie intact and converted to an IUI
    8/3/11-Beta #1=BFN,
    Nov, 2011 BFP #1=m/c at 7 wks 3 days
    11/11-AMH .47, IVF #2 March 2012...or not!! Surprise BFP on 2/19. Beta #1=161. Beta #2 305 Our little miracle girl is on her way! Due Oct 29, 2012
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  • I wouldn't respond to her email at all.  Or anything else she sends.  Ever!

    Insensitive cow!!!

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    2/06 - surprise pregnancy - twins
    3/06 - m/c 1st baby at 6 weeks 
    5/06 -2nd baby had no heartbeat at 14 wks.
    D&E - Bled out. Blood transfusions. Week in ICU - Cheated Death!
    Diagnosis: Blood clotting and bleeding disorder, immune issues, & cervical stenosis
    5/10 - 1st IVF cycle - BFN
    FET - 10/12/10 - BFN
    1/11 - IVF with PGD - BFN
    IVF - May - BFN
    6/11 New RE - fingers crossed!
    9/11 - IVF - 4 transferred
    10/13 - BFP!!
    It's a boy! Clint Michael, Due in June!!!

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  • What a b*tch! As much as I should say to just ignore it, I'm in a b*tchy mood and would love nothing more than to send an insensitive "friend" like this a like to google or a like to webmd and nothing else. That would get your point across and hopefully let her know how much of a horrible friend she's being.
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    PCOS--TTC since 11/2010:   
    5 cycles of Clomid: all BFN, 1 cycle of Follistim:CP
    1 year break thanks to deployment.
    1 cycle Follistim: BFN, Lap to remove peritubal cyst May 2013
    2 cycles Follistim + trigger: BFN, Gonal F +IUI April 2014: BFP!!!!!! 

    Boy/Girl Twins due Jan 5, 2015!!! 


  • Wow.  she really is very cruel!  I am sorry you have someone in your life like that!  
    Jennifer TTC #1 Dx PCOS 2009 Apr, Aug, and Sept tried clomid cycles.... BFN. Oct...DH SA results were normal. Me...HSG - left tube was clear, right tube was slightly blocked. Dec - Clomid #4 200mg Feb 2010 - IUI #1 200mg Clomid = BFN. June 2010 - IUI #2 200mg Clomid = BFN. March 2011 - IUI #3 w/ injectables = BFN (1st & last with RE, moving on to IVF). July 2011 - consult for IVF. Sept 2011, 1st IVF. Got our BFP on 10/2/11. Became a mom on 5/5/12 to a beautiful baby boy! Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker AlternaTickers - Cool, free Web tickers
  • what a nasty human being! I would say "well, considering you KNOW that I have no experience with this, I am wondering what your motives are for sending me this email. please, enlighten me." 



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