Babies: 3 - 6 Months

Any EBFers have a baby that sttn? As in doesn't wake up at all for 8-12 hours?

My daughter goes to bed at 8ish and then is up at 12:30-1, 3-4ish and finally up for the day around 6:30-7.  I feed her each time she wakes up.  Does this sound right for a 3 and 1/2 month old?  Will she eventually eliminate night wakings on her own, or is that something I should work on with her now?  If you do have an ebf baby who sleeps this long at night please give me details!  Where does baby sleep?  What time?  How are naps?  (I know these are a lot of questions.  TIA!)

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Re: Any EBFers have a baby that sttn? As in doesn't wake up at all for 8-12 hours?

  • Your schedule is similar to ours. Only, now thay DD is going through the 4 month wakeful, she sleeps longer, but sometimes wakes up and lays in her crib playing with her toes. Lol.
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  • Lol cute :)  Do you put her down awake or do you rock/nurse to sleep? 

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  • Your schedule is pretty much identical to ours. He also takes a few short naps (30-60 min) and one long nap (2-3 hours) each day. Sorry I can't be of much help, but I wanted you to know that you're not alone.
  • my LO has STTN since he was 2 months and i ebf.  hes slept like this since hes been in his crib in his own room. we do his bath at about 7:15, then swadle and feed him. we snugle untill he falls asleep by 8:00 then i put him down.  he will sometimes wake up 45mins to an hour after i put him down. i go in and give him his soother and pat his tummy till he calms down and he will put himslef back to sleep once hes calm. he gets up around 5am then back down till 8, but he sometimes will sleep right through untill untill 8 am.  durring the day he goes down for a nap about ever 2 hours. he only naps 30-45 mins at a time, but this seems to work just fine for us.  he seems to eat more often durring the day than some babies his age (every 1 1/2 to 2 hours) but i figure its cause he goes so long at night. hes just over 3 months. every baby is different and i know i'm lucky to have a good sleeper. good luck and i hope your LO starts STTN soon :)
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    Lol cute :)  Do you put her down awake or do you rock/nurse to sleep? 

    It really depends. Sometimes I can put her down awake, sometimes no. I do whatever is quieter. Lol.
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  • My 5 month old still wakes up several times each night.  She usually goes to bed at 9:30.  She wakes at 12, 3, 5 and sometimes 6:30.  She's usually up for the day at 8 or so.  I feed her each time, but she doesn't always eat for very long especially when she wakes up at 3 and 5.  She would probably sleep longer if I got up to feed her, but I nurse her side-lying in the bed and we both usually fall asleep.  If I wake up, I put her in the pack-n-play beside the bed.  She is only 14 pounds, so I feel like she probably needs to eat more often, and if she's hungry I feed her.  I'm hoping she starts to space out her feedings more as she gets older and bigger. . .
  • Well of course, every baby is different! I don't know if you can work on eliminating feedings during the night because if she's hungry, she's hungry! Wink I think she'll do it own her own whenever she's ready. As for us, we're with PP, my LO has been STTN since 2 1/2 mos. She goes to bed around 9pm and doesn't wake until 7am for a feeding then goes back down for another 2 hours. She naps throughout the day, 2 hours after waking up from the night (so anywhere from 11am-12) she goes down for an hour long or so nap. The rest of the day she takes a few short naps. Honestly, she put herself on a napping/waking schedule. The only thing I started was 9pm bedtime routine that works like a charm! We do bath time (every other day), pajamas, one last feeding, no more play time and keep the lights low. In about a month I think I'll be adding a bedtime story. Last night was her first night in her crib and she didn't even seem to notice, she slept just as well as she did in her PnP. Usually when I put her down for the night she's still a little awake and she manages to put herself to sleep. For naps, she just falls asleep on her own, sometimes in her swing.
  • Mine sleepes from 8-3, eats, and sleeps until sometime between 6-7.
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  • That sounds about normal for her age.  DS1 STTN (12 hrs) starting at like 3-4 months.  DS2 still isn't STTN and he's almost 7 months old.  I haven't done anything differently, they are just different kids.  Moral of the story, some kids will STTN before others, regardless of what you do.

    DS2 was similar to your LO at about that age.  It stayed pretty awful through his 4th month then got better.  Now he goes to bed at 7, wakes at 5 to eat and goes back to sleep until 7:30-8.  Hang in there.

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  • DD goes to bed at 8 p.m., sleeps until 5:30 a.m., eats, then sleeps until 7:30 a.m.  She started doing 8-9 hr stretches at around 2 months.  It's just luck, I think.  She does eat at least every 2 hrs during the day and cluster feeds in the evening.  She catnaps during the day, like 30-45 min multiple times a day.  She also insists on being held for most of the day. Routine is swaddle, nurse, put down in carseat (basically like a RnP) in the cosleeper next to our bed, rock her carseat for usually 10 min.

    I don't see how you could avoid feeding during the night if she's hungry.  I hope she starts doing some longer stretches for you soon.

  • Your schedule is almost identical to mine. Down at 8, up between 12 and 2, up again between 3 and 5, and then up for the day at 7ish. She sleeps in a playpen in our room and has maintained this schedule for about a month. There are times where I give her a paci to see if she's really hungry, and sometimes she'll sleep an extra hour or so, but ultimately she's up again. During the day, she takes frequent cat naps in the morning and then has been giving us a two-hour nap in the afternoons. I'm accepting the fact that a full STTN is probably not in the near future, but I'm so used to our current schedule that it would be a happy surprise if she did decide to sleep longer. Good luck!
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  • Thank you so much for your responses.  It makes me feel better to know that I'm probably not doing anything wrong with our routines.  I guess she'll sleep longer stretches when she's ready.  I sure do hope that's soon though! 

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    DS born 5.23.12 at 36w5d

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  • My son was EBF when he started sleeping through the night at around 9 weeks- I've had some supply issues and had to start supplementing some days now (only 0-5oz of formula so I don't think it would make a big difference). He sleeps from 9-6 and sleeps in his crib. He doesn't nap much during the day- just little dozing after eating.
  • My LO cosleeps and is 3 months old and our schedule is very close to yours.
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  • imagechrismo1013:
    My daughter goes to bed at 8ish and then is up at 12:30-1, 3-4ish and finally up for the day around 6:30-7.  I feed her each time she wakes up.  Does this sound right for a 3 and 1/2 month old?  Will she eventually eliminate night wakings on her own, or is that something I should work on with her now?  If you do have an ebf baby who sleeps this long at night please give me details!  Where does baby sleep?  What time?  How are naps?  (I know these are a lot of questions.  TIA!)

    you're describing my son's exact night time feeding schedule.  i thought my lo was the only bf baby not even close to sttn.  good to know we're not alone :)

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  • Since about 8 weeks, DS was only waking up once, MAYBE twice, and would sleep until I woke him up to leave for daycare at 7:15. On the weekends, he'd sleep until 8:30.

    This last week, he's all of a sudden sleeping from 7:30/8:00 until 6/6:30. Last night, he woke up at 4:00. Before I could even get to the rocker to feed him, he was back asleep. I rocked him for a few minutes and put him back to bed. He woke up again at 5:00 - I tried giving him his paci before getting him up (he won't take it if he's hungry), and he went right back to sleep. He isn't swaddled anymore - he breaks out of every swaddle - but sleeps in a sleep sack. He likes to sleep on his side, or tummy, but sometimes sleeps on his back - it just depends on the night (it takes about an hour for him to figure out how he's most comfortable).

    Will your LO take a paci even if hungry? If they take one, just not when hungry, maybe try offering it if they wake up? If they go back to sleep, then obviously it wasn't hunger! I do a fair amount of shh-ing and tummy/back rubbing to make sure he's completely asleep (usually about 5 minutes).

    But, every baby really is different. A friend of mine has a 2 yr old that still wakes up 3 times a night - he doesn't like to be wet, so she changes his diaper and puts him back to bed.

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  • LO is EBF and has been sttn since about 6 weeks but has always been a "good" sleeper, doing 6 hours on our first night home. We actually don't have a schedule or a routine. Some nights she gets a bath, some nights she doesn't. She sleeps in a RnP next to our bed and falls asleep between 9-930 every night. Sleeps until 6 am, or 5 if I need to be at work early, I feed her and she goes back to bed until around 9 am.

    I agree with PP, sometimes na paci is all she needs or a quick shhh and a head rub and she's back asleep in no time. We just moved and the adjustment was hard on her and she was up every 2 hours but had gone back to "normal" a few nights later.

     Every baby is different and you'll get a full night of sleep soon! GL!

  • My BF 4 month old baby STTN.  At 8:30pm he eats.  Put to bed in crib at 9 awake (most nights).  Asleep by 9:30.  Sleeps until 5:30, eats and back to sleep until 9 am.  Naps at noon, 3, and 6....ish.

    This is never a very strict scheduale since I SAH right now.  He may go to bed later and his naps aren't set in stone. It is more his scheduale then mine.  We have a pretty relaxed way of doing things.

    He sleeps in his crib in a room that is shared with my 2 year old.

    I just want to add that I didn't sleep train him, he gradually worked to this by himself.

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  • My DD STTN with no feedings now, and has been from 3 months or so.  She would basically wake up and eat less and less each week, until at some point she just stopped waking up. Your baby will do it when they are ready! I did nothing to wean her off her night feedings at all.

    For my DD, she's asleep at 7:30 (I nurse her to sleep most of the time) and she'll sleep clear though until 6-7am. Well, she will wake up in the middle of the night a few times, babble to herself and put herself back to sleep. I haven't had to do anything in the middle of the night with her for months now. 

    She's a pretty consistent napper. First nap about an hour after she wakes up and plays. Then one around 11am, one around 2, each for about an hour. Then some days a cat nap around 5. Bed time routine starts at 7, and she's out by 7:30. 

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  • First of all, the more I get into this mom thing, the more I realize that every baby is different.  Your LO may not be ready to sleep through the night.

    DS has STTN since 9 weeks and he sleeps in his crib.  He's worked his way up to 9-10 hours.  At night, we do bath, lotion/jammies, book, BF in the dark with the sleep sheep going, rock to sleep.  I'll admit that if I'm feeling lazy, I move BF up in front of bath so I can do it in the loving room while watching TV.  In that case he just goes from book to rock with sleep sheep on.  He's always in bed by 8:30ish no matter nap times.  He'll then wake up between 6 and 7am, eats, plays, and is back down for a nap before 8:30. 

    He takes a good 1-2 hour morning nap and maybe an hour in the afternoon.  He is an afternoon catnapper.  He always needs to be rocked down when he shows his tired cues.  Otherwise he just cries.  However, 5 minutes of rocking puts him right out.  

    My pedi said that after 2-3 months, it is ok to "encourage" your babies' longest stretch of sleep.  If he has slept for a 6 hour stretch, then try to soothe with a paci until that 6 hour mark and so on as he sleeps longer stretches.  

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  • Yup!  LO goes to sleep almost at 8 on the nose every night.  80% of the time he STTN until 6ish.  Today he slept until 7:30!  He's done 1 full 12 hour stretch too.  Usually its 10 hours.  I had a few days early this week of 1 wake up a night but now we're back on track.  He's been sleeping in his crib since 3 weeks old. 

    I feed him almost every 2.5 hours...which is probably too frequent but I am a SAHM and I figure if I feed him alot during the day...he'll get up less at night.  So its been working for us.

    Naps on the other hand are a little less reliable.  Usually I get 4 x 45 minute naps.  Occasionally he'll throw in a 1-2 hour session (like right now he's at an hour and 15minutes!).  I try to stick to the 1-2 hours of wakefulness at a time so basically I spend ALL day putting him down for naps or soothing him for a nap.

    I think its beyond important for 2 things for lo's to STTN...1) help him/her learn how to self soothe.  I'm trying my best to put LO down drowsy and fuss himself to sleep.  It usually takes about 5 minutes of him either looking around or cooing at himself to fall asleep. That way he can put himself back to sleep when he wakes up after his sleep cycles.     2)  tank him/her up with food during the day.

     

    HTH!!

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  • I EP and am a SAHM, so I keep LO up with me until I go to bed at 10:30 to maximize my sleep time. She sleeps from 10:30 to anywhere from 6:00 - 8:30 without waking (usually 7- 9 hrs). Then she eats a quick 2 ozs and is down for another 2 hours. She sleeps and plays on and off until noon. Her first technical "STTN" of 6 hours was when she turned 6 weeks, so I think I just got lucky.

    I do on demand feeding and napping, so that might lend to the argument of "sleep leads to more sleep." Not sure. The only sort of bedtime routine that we do is try to get her to nap for an hour or so around 8, wake her at 9, change her, feed her, and let her wear herself out kicking on her baby gym until bedtime. Seems to be working!

    GL!

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  • Yes I EBF and my LO has been sttn since she was 8-9 weeks old. I cant say I have a trick I'm guessing its just her. She goes down anywhere between 8-8:30pm and sleeps till 7-8am but shes not very good at naps usually one or two 30min naps and maybe a 2 hour nap in the late afternoon. I guess because she is awake most of the day is why she sleeps so well at night?? Right now LO is teething so shes really fussy at night so shes not perfect lol.
  • I EBF and LO sleeps only 5hrs at the most at a time. He'll sleep from 9:30/10-3a or so and he'll eat then go back to sleep 7ish, eat again then back to sleep til 10:30 or 11a.

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