Babies: 3 - 6 Months

Would you consider this CIO?

I nursed N tonight, like always and he fell asleep, like always.  But when I put him in his crib, he woke up.  He wasn't crying (actually he was grinning at me and chewing his fists) so I figured I'd see if he would fall asleep on his own.  A few times he started to get a little more vocal - not crying but grunting and moving around - so I went in and patted and shushed him for a minute or two then left.  After maybe 3 times doing that, I left him awake and went back a couple of minutes later and he was asleep.

I haven't read Ferber so I don't know all the details but from what I've read on here, this was sort of similar, just without the crying.  

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Re: Would you consider this CIO?

  • If he wasn't crying, how could it be Cio?  The C is missing :)  Nope- your child was learning how to put himself to sleep.  Good for him!
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  • I wouldn't call it CIO if he was only fussing/grunting/moving around. 

  • imagejerol:
    If he wasn't crying, how could it be Cio?  The C is missing :)  Nope- your child was learning how to put himself to sleep.  Good for him!

    Yeah, I dunno - it just seemed so similar to what I've read on here.  I wasn't sure what the level of crying would have to be - like would any sort of fussing count.  I guess not though :)  Yay!!  Hopefully this isn't a one time thing!

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  • no, I consider that helping him learn how to soothe and put himself to sleep without you holding him.

     

     

  • Yea to me CIO is literally crying. From what I understand from Ferber and other CIO enthusiasts, your LO cries/screams during CIO. My little man fusses a smidge almost every night but he never gets to the point of actually crying out the way they do sometimes when they're really hungry. Good for him for self soothing and good for you for finding something that works for you both! :)
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  • nope. I think fussing is different. Plus you soothed him.
  • imageAprilLynn09:
    nope. I think fussing is different. Plus you soothed him.
    You can soothe in Ferber - you just aren't supposed to soothe to sleep. Weissbluth (Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child) advocates a no-soothing, total extinction method.

    Fussing is not crying, thus not CIO.
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  • I have not tried this yet cause i have not had to yet but the way ferber works is this way: u put lo to bed happy and tired but awake, u leave room when they start to cry u let them cry for 5 minutes then u go in and do what u want to calm them down but do not pick them up, when calm leave romm when lo starts to cry u wait 10 minutes go in ad repeat calm down again not picking him up, then leave when he starts crying you wait 15minutes and so on and so on. then book says it coupld take a fews hour sto get to sleep that first night but it gets shorter and shorter everytime. sometimes when my baby is sleeping she will make nioses at night but then after a few secons they stop and she goes back to sleep, that is fine, babies move around a lot at night and they are actually learning and mastering skills whike thety are sleeping. mine makes little whining noises when she first goes to sleep but they are not actually cries then within a minuite or two she is asleep
  • Fussing ? crying

    And CIO or rather, sleep training, is not a fly-by-the-seat solution, as some people often misinterpret it to be.  It's a plan of action set forth by a book (often Ferber, Hogg, Weissbluth) that may involve some crying, but often...it does not.  :)

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  • imagehepcats:
    Yea to me CIO is literally crying. From what I understand from Ferber and other CIO enthusiasts, your LO cries/screams during CIO. My little man fusses a smidge almost every night but he never gets to the point of actually crying out the way they do sometimes when they're really hungry. Good for him for self soothing and good for you for finding something that works for you both! :)

    Not all babies full blown CRY when you are sleep training. There are different levels and it's all based on the baby. Some babies are criers, others are fussers, but in no way does sleep training = letting a baby scream. Because not all babies scream. Get it? And also, not all babies that SCREAM are hungry. Just differentiating for you.  

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  • imageMrs.Saxy:

    no, I consider that helping him learn how to soothe and put himself to sleep without you holding him.

     

     

    Precisely. 

    Is it CIO by the evil definition? No, but by not going in right away, you are helping him learn how to soothe which = sleep training/fuss it out/whatever you people call it. 

    I'm over the CIO=let a baby scream.  Sleep training is the terminology that needs to be used more around here.  

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  • imageLisa Frank:

    Fussing ? crying

    And CIO or rather, sleep training, is not a fly-by-the-seat solution, as some people often misinterpret it to be.  It's a plan of action set forth by a book (often Ferber, Hogg, Weissbluth) that may involve some crying, but often...it does not.  :)

    I'm not planning on trying sleep training right now.  It just so happened that he seemed like he might fall asleep on his own last night so I let him go.
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