November 2011 Moms

"Guests pay for their own brunch" shower?

My Mom and sister wanted to do a little gathering to celebrate my LO's arrival but I'm not a huge fan of 2nd baby showers (esp where guests are expected to bring gifts...I feel blessed enough already).  They sent out an evite inviting a bunch of friends/family to join us at a nice brunch restaurant and said "Your presence is your gift."

It's very sweet and I'm happy to see everyone.  The only thing I feel iffy about is that they also mentioned in the evite that the brunch buffet is $28/person.  I was kind of wondering how they would throw such an expensive event (even if it is only 10-15 women).  Is this weird that guests would pay for themselves?  It's still probably less than if they bought me a gift.  Btw- I've been to some of these friends' second baby showers and brought gifts.

What are your thoughts about this?  Should I feel weird or does this sound like no big deal?

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Re: "Guests pay for their own brunch" shower?

  • I have differing opinions on this.  I think it is a bit odd to "throw" something and then expect people to pay for themselves.  It's kind of...well, odd.

    BUT, the people who want to and are able to come will come, pay the $28, and be fine, so it's really up to them.

    Either way, it sounds like it's happening, so have fun with it!

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  • This sounds more like a "mom's day out"  (which I think is a nice idea)  not a shower.  Because the purpose of a shower is to get gifts. 
    The only thing I think is weird is that they planned it out all the way down to hitting the "send button" on the evite, without having run all the details by you first.  It seems like you are suprised by the information?  I don't know what kind of crowd you are dealing with economically, but to me $28/person is pricey.  And you are right, if they are going to spend that much, they could have spent less on a gift, so it sounds silly to me.  I like the idea of a girls day out, to a restaurant or to a spa for pampering.  But I would have discussed it with everyone first, including you, rather than just send out an email and see how everyone reacts. 
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  • Wait, so do the guests know that they are going to need to pay for it themselves?

    Personally, I think it's odd and would never "throw" an event if I weren't paying for the food. And, I've never been invited to anything where that's been expected of me either... I would opt for a smaller gathering at a non-meal hour where I could pay for appetizers, if it were a money issue... but that's just me.

    However, if the guests know that they are expected to pay the $28, then it's up to them to show up or not since they know they will have to pay...so I wouldn't stress about it if I were you.

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  • If I got an invite like that I would think it was odd, especially if they called it a "Baby Shower".   Doesn't really fit the typical MO.
  • In their defense, the word "shower" was never used.  They just said come and celebrate with us.
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  • I don't know that it's necessarily wrong to ask people to spend that much but it's not something I would do because personally, I would not go anywhere I had to pay $28 to eat. My SO and I don't even spend that much when we go to dinner together. Also, even though you don't want gifts I would much rather get you a $30 gift or even just a box of diapers then spend it on food that probably isn't even that great. And no matter how many times you say you don't want gifts some people are still going to want to get you get gifts and then having to pay $28 to eat as well.
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  • If I got an invite to this I would definitely think it was odd. $28 is an okay price for a brunch but then I would feel really odd showing up to a shower without a gift so I would be out more like $75+ going to this.  Honestly if we weren't that close I would probably just decline.  I'm in the mindset that second showers, in and of themselves, are tacky but to add on the fact that I'm expected to basically help pay for the shower is odd. 
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  • I did a brunch for a friend having a second baby last summer.  I personally didn't feel comfortable asking the guests to pay for themselves.  We never mentioned the cost on the evite and I just paid for everyone it was about 275 plus tip.  The girls at the brunch came expecting to pay but I didn't allow it.  I thought it was too tacky.
  • My friends did a brunch for me too.  Of course they said the same thing abour gifts, and I myself told each of the invitees (just close peeps only) that we had everything we needed and I just wanted to see them etc.  But of course, everyone still brought a gift. 

    Everyone ordered off the menu, and were waiting for a bill!  My hostesses had to tell them, um, we paid already! 

    People will bring gifts. Because people who are coming are the ones who love you and want to be generous.  I don't think it's cool to ask them to spring $28 for brunch.  That's kind of an expensive ticket for brunch. 

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  • I would never throw a party or gathering and not have the food prepared by myself or catered.  I think it is very tacky to have a get together and not have food available or expect your guests to pay for it.
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  • I see you're in DC (I'm in NoVA), so honestly, $28 is a decent price for a brunch. However, I would think it poor etiquette to throw a party/host a gathering and expect guests to pay for themselves. No one in my family would do such a thing for the fear of being talked about for poor "traditional" etiquette (but that's our hometown way of things).

    But you are the honoree, not the host, so I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Nothing else to do but smile and wave Big Smile If a good friend/close family member did the same thing, I would still go and not really be bothered by it.

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  • I think it's tacky to ask guests to pay for their own meal and $28 is more than I would ever want to spend on a buffet.
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  • Sorry I have a real problem with showers where you are expected to pay for your own meal. Food is part of the shower. If you can't afford to provide for your guests then you should not be having a shower there. I usually decline invites like this because they are rude.
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  • I'm not quite sure how to answer the question- so I'll just say- it depends!  I've been to a baby brunch (for a first baby) that just consisted of a big group of friends.  It was handled the same way we'd handle a birthday dinner w/friends- no one brought presents, we all paid for ourselves and the expecting mama.  It was no big deal.  So I think my reaction would depend more on how close I was to the person.  I do, however, think that $28 is a lot to spend on a buffet brunch- unless maybe it includes unlimited mimosas, made with Dom... :p

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    Well, if they never used the word "shower" and it was a general, "Hey, if you'd like to join us for brunch, here is the time, location, and price," then I'd say it's fine. But if the evite had the look and feel of a baby shower invite, even without the word "shower," then I'd feel weird to have to pay for my own food. Guests should never be expected to pay for themselves. But if it was the first scenario, then I'd say you're in the clear as long as it was abundantly clear that they are paying for themselves. You don't want an awkward situation where Aunt Milly shows up with no money and then complains because she didn't know.

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  •     I would say that it seems a bit odd, BUT at least they let the invitees know ahead of time.  It's definitely not as bad as the shower I read about the other day on one of the other boards where the guests were presented with individual bills at the end with no warning.  At least you know that the people showing up are okay with the arrangement ahead of time and are happy to be celebrating with you!
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  • IMO i think it's rude. if they were going to ask people to pay they should have picked a cheaper luncheon.

    i have no problems with 2nd showers, it's fairly norm in my area/family circle. i would have no problem having been invited to a 2nd shower and bringing a gift. however, i would be very offended to have to pay for my own lunch. 

    depending on the relationship, i would either a- come and bring a gift, even though gifts are no expected. or b- make an excuse to not come. because now not only do i have to pay $30 for my meal i also feel obligated to bring a gift because after all, it is a baby shower.

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  • I think that it depends on the situation.  My DH's family has gotten so big that there are so many showers (wedding/baby) that if we do it at a restaurant, they have started going that way.  The aunts used to foot the bill, but they just can't afford to anymore and it isn't fair not to 'celebrate' the big events in all of his cousins lives just because of this.  I think that the majority of people are good with this.  It is also getting to the point that it is hard having it at people homes because of the number of people... so it is just the way we go!
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  • I hosted a shower at a restaurant for a bride about a month ago.  I fully expected to pay the entire tab.  I went to the rest room and came back to the waiter giving checks to the individuals who had alcohol.  I was mortified.  I grabbed as many as i could be some had already paid and left.  I let that waiter have it for not checking with me first.  My feeling is that if you sign up to host a shower you pay for the shower.  However, I have been to a shower or two where i have bought my own lunch and it didn't bother me too much but never understood why they didn't just have cake and punch at their home if they didn't have or want to spend the money.
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  • I think it's really, really tacky.  Even if she didn't use the word "shower" it's clear what this event is.  If she specifically said "your presence is your gift" then she DID just demand that everyone come and spend $28 on a gift for you.  NOt a huge tab for a shower gift but, it's the principle.  WHen you invite guests to a party I think you need to be prepared to host guests at a party, not recruit people to pay for the party.

    That said, you are not the host so, if the people invited think this is tacky, it reflects on the hostess, not you.  If it were me, I'd try and talk the person hosting out of it and offer other alternatives.  If she is hell bent on doing it this way, just enjoy it.  A lot of people will probably come (and bring gifts anyway).  YOU aren't the one making these decisions and anyone up enough on their etiquette to know how tacky the set up is will also be up on their etiquette enough to know you didn't plan the event. So, while I do think it's tacky, I don't think you should worry about it that much.

  • It just sounds like they invited a close group of people out to eat.  This is not a shower.  So, it's not great, but not really tacky that everyone will pay for their own meal (although $28 is kinda pricey.)  However, I'm sure most guests will bring a gift, too.
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