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May 2011 Moms
Athena0809
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The "brat ban"
Athena0809
member
So have you heard how restaurants and other establishments--including airlines, are doing a kids ban? I'm watching Dr. Phil (how low have I gone lol) and this is today's topic. A woman and her 19 mo old got kicked out of her flight when her child kept repeating "bye bye airplane" over and over. The flight attendant said "it's not funny anymore, you need to shut your baby up", she asked the mom to give him Benadryl. Mom was notified they were turning the plane back to the gate to get them off the plane, she refused so security was called! WWYD? Do you think your views on this has changed now that you are mom? Because I'm not ashamed to say, pre-baby I was very intolerant of babies and kids 
.What's your take on this issue?
.What's your take on this issue? 
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Re: The "brat ban"
I'm still pretty intolerant of babies and kids.
If I'm going to a nice restaurant and spending lots of $ on dinner and someone else's kid can't behave/be quiet, I'm going to be pissed and say something. I just wouldn't take my LO to dinner unless it was a very appropriate place or I knew she would behave. (I'm talking $200 meals here, not Applebee's.) I guess I just agree that some places should be kid-free.
I'm not sure I agree with the plane story above, though. I'd be more understanding on a plane. Unless I was in first class!! I've seen more obnoxiously drunk people on planes than annoying children. I was flying to LA and they stopped the plane in a small air strip in the middle of a field to kick someone off because he was being drunk and annoying. He was escorted off by cops!
I don't think it's very fair to kick the lady off the plane for it. When we were flying E was really upset at certain points and I was near tears trying to calm her down because I know how obnoxious crying babies on planes can be. The flight attendant asking the mother to give the child Benedryl is BEYOND wrong. I'm sorry but I'm not going to drug my child just so others can have a quiet flight. I will do my best to keep my child quiet and behaved but I refuse to drug my child.
Restaurants have a right. You can go to a restaurant across the street. No skin off anyone's back. You still get to eat out and the other restaurant is losing the patronage. Their loss.
I lost my angels 07/2010, 04/2017, 10/2017
Meimsx no more
I have a feeling it might not have gone down the way this lady said. I'm willing to bet she threw a fit and got herself kicked off the plane.
I don't think planes should be able to ban (except possibly in first class) because sometimes travel is necessary. However, I agree with pp that restaurants can and should refuse whoever they want.
Like others are saying, I'm totally fine with optional places like restaurants and even movie theaters having bans.
Airplanes are different. We flew last month for a funeral.
Also agree that there must be more to that anecdote. The Benadryl thing if true would totally get a flight attendant fired but that wouldn't be why they turned the plane around or called security.
The restaurant thing I understand.
We went to a local bar and grill with our daughter last week for dinner--besides having REALLY good food, I loved bringing her there--it was noisy. No one could hear if she fussed at all
And she slept through it....
If your child is a little sh!t, or in a p!ssy mood then why would you drag them out? Why not get a sitter, or go to Chuck-E-Cheese, or Micky D's? I don't mind SOME places asking you not to bring your kid, if you're shelling out $50+ a plate you are also paying for the atmosphere.
Now about the plane. F#*k that flight attendant. The kid wasn't bothering the other passangers. And he had every right to be fussy, but instead he was just annoying. Whatever. I hope her kid (Dr. Phil said she couldn't come to the taping because she just gave birth) acts up on a plane and gets kicked off. They had no right to remove her.
I think it is horrible. it is putting a blanket statement on ALL kids.
I understand some parents turn a deaf ear to the noise but to group all children as unable to sit thru a meal is wrong. If my dd gets upset I take her out of the situation. If a parent does not then I think it would be fine to ask them to do so and if it continues to ask them to leave if the behavior was unruly.
about the lady on the plane. her kid was not running around all he was doing was saying bye bye to the neighboring plane. that is all. Had he been running around or disturbing others where the parents were doing nothing to soothe him then maybe I would say something. Damn this kid and his mom that were kicked off were on a delay that extended to 11 hours. Sure he was going to be a bit restless.
sure I would not bring my dd to a nice place if I thought in any way she would be a disruption to someone else. it is common sense I get that but to completely take that right out for me to bring my child to a nice restaurant I think is wrong.
The problem is that EVERYONE thinks that THEIR child isn't the problem. While I don't mind my toddler's high-pitched voice since I am used to it, that doesn't mean it isn't like the sound of nails on a chalkboard to the people around me. I would 110% rather restaurants ban children under a certain age than have them tell a couple people to quiet their kid down. Most people aren't receptive to that, since their child is a perfect angel (no matter what it is the child is doing).
My right to take my kids wherever I want to take them should not trump the rights of anyone else to have a nice peaceful meal in a private establishment.
And do we really know how loud the kid was saying bye-bye plane? I am around my toddler constantly and he can get this horribly shrill thing going and when he knows it is annoying, sometimes he will repeat himself over and over. I would find that terribly disruptive.