Rotavirus vaccine at 2 month appt

mel1358 · September 2011

I know vaccines are a touchy subject around here and I believe everyone does what's best for their babies.

I do believe in vaccinating on schedule (which we did on Friday) but I am starting to wonder if I made a mistake letting her have this one. I feel like a horrible mother because I did not do any research as my pedi is a new mom and I feel like she would not do anything to my daughter that she would not do to her own. I did not realize that this vaccine was "live". My poor DD has not been feeling well since.

Did anyone opt out of this vaccine or did you give it? If so, did your LO have any side effects and for how long?

Again, I don't want to start up a vaccinate/not vaccinate argument, I just want to know if anyone else has gone through this... Thanks

katie4253 · September 2011

Define "not feeling well".

How is she acting? Is she running a temp?

scuba2011 · September 2011

My daughter had her vaccines on Thursday. She had 3 shots and one oral- including the rotavirus vaccine. She was sleepy most of the day on Thursday and a little fussy Thursday night but was back to normal by Friday afternoon.

srs5624 · September 2011

DS had his two month vaccines on a Thursday evening (it was around 5:00 pm). He cried through most of the night. On Friday he slept a lot. I had to wake him up to feed him periodically, and it was never a full feeding. By Saturday he was fine. He ran a very slight fever (<100.5*F) until Saturday afternoon.

We're never doing evening shots again. That was a mistake. He's already fussy in the evenings. Lesson learned.

We did his four month shots at 9 am. He responded much better. Cried initially (of course) but settled down with a bottle. Slept the whole way home and then was fine. Played and babbled all day long. His appetite was slightly less, but nothing really notable. He had the same slight fever for about 2 days.

His six month vaccines are tomorrow at 11 am. Here's hoping that goes well too.

How is your DD behaving? Sleeping a lot, running a fever, not hungry...?

Did your doctor give you a copy of the CDC sheets for each vaccine? They're supposed to give them to you each time. Those sheets contain all of the information you need for each vaccine (what it is, why it's given, common side effects, when to call the doctor, CDC phone numbers, etc).

buckeyeki · September 2011

DD had her rotovirus all on schedule and never had a problem with it. When rotovirus went around last winter, I was miserably sick and she was fine, I was jealous! But seriously, I was happy she had it because the alternative was having a very sick baby while I was sick myself and that woils not have been good!

jesusita2002 · September 2011

scuba2011:
My daughter had her vaccines on Thursday. She had 3 shots and one oral- including the rotavirus vaccine. She was sleepy most of the day on Thursday and a little fussy Thursday night but was back to normal by Friday afternoon.

For the most part this describes my son. Sleepy Friday, fussy Friday night, then back to "normal" by Sat.

SarahBXander · September 2011

scuba2011:
My daughter had her vaccines on Thursday. She had 3 shots and one oral- including the rotavirus vaccine. She was sleepy most of the day on Thursday and a little fussy Thursday night but was back to normal by Friday afternoon.

This but he wasn't fussy more than usual and was back to normal that following morning

babyduejune · September 2011

I usually just lurk here, but have to put in my 2 cents on this relatively new live virus vaccine. I didn't give it to my baby & never will. If you child is not in daycare they are at a VERY low risk for getting rota until they are in a group setting w/other kids (school) even then, daycare is the worst for spreading rota, plus by the time they are old enough to go to school if they get it, it will be some bad diarrhea for a few days but it's not a fatal illness except in 3rd world countries where there is no access to healthcare & IV fluids (needed for possibly severe dehydration, lack of adequate nutrition). This particular vaccine has caused intussception in many children which is a potentially fatal telescoping of the bowels that requires surgical intervention. So for us, the benefit of this vaccine in no way outweighed the risk. OP, I'm sure your LO is just fine but I think every parent should do the research on ANY medical interventions instead of just taking their MDs word on it. Doctors are not God & they will never love your child like you do. It is your job to research the risks & benefits & then make an educated decision that you are comfortable with! Rant over.

lucylea · September 2011

I hate to get into the vaccine debate, but the PP is absolutely wrong about there being a low risk of contracting rotavirus unless your child is in daycare. You are exposing them any time you leave the house. Stores are notorious for carrying diseases on the shopping carts, especially since LOs tend to chew on them, and money is filthy so handling it puts your LO at risk. Also, for those of us with older children the germs they bring home put the new LO at risk.

Its also not "just some diarrhea". It can cause severe dehydration and land your child (at any age) in the hospital for IV fluids.

I respect that it was your choice not to give this vaccine, PP, but this virus is serious stuff and encouraging someone to not get it is irresponsible. And just because she got her LO the vaccine doesn't mean she didn't " do the research on ANY medical interventions instead of just taking their MDs word on it. Doctors are not God & they will never love your child like you do."

babyduejune · September 2011

Just curios what makes you believe you had rotavirus?? Was it diagnosed by a stool sample? Rotavirus is exceedingly rare in adults bc most of us have all been exposed & developed immunity by the time we are adults, & very rarely are diagnostic stool samples done on adults with gastroenteritis which is how it is accurately diagnosed.

ETA: @ buckeye, sorry on my phone, quote button fail.

babyduejune · September 2011

lucylea:
I hate to get into the vaccine debate, but the PP is absolutely wrong about there being a low risk of contracting rotavirus unless your child is in daycare. You are exposing them any time you leave the house. Stores are notorious for carrying diseases on the shopping carts, especially since LOs tend to chew on them, and money is filthy so handling it puts your LO at risk. Also, for those of us with older children the germs they bring home put the new LO at risk.
Its also not "just some diarrhea". It can cause severe dehydration and land your child (at any age) in the hospital for IV fluids.
I respect that it was your choice not to give this vaccine, PP, but this virus is serious stuff and encouraging someone to not get it is irresponsible. And just because she got her LO the vaccine doesn't mean she didn't " do the research on ANY medical interventions instead of just taking their MDs word on it. Doctors are not God & they will never love your child like you do."

Well, OP clearly states that she feels bad because she didn't research and trusted her docs word for it. Look, I didn't advise anyone not to get the vaccine, I stated my personal decision and then encouraged others to do the research and decide for themselves. In most cases (and I am in the healthcare field) Rotavirus causes varying degrees of severity, gastritis. Nausea, vomiting, and yes some diarrhea, sorry if the word "some" offends you, I chose it because it is not the same from person to person. This vaccine has had MANY problems associated with it, from the first vaccine being pulled due to associated intussception, to Merck pulling many of the newer versions because they found it to be contaminated with porcine DNA viruses. They have no idea what these porcine viruses can do to an individual over a lifespan, no clue. So yeah, if you are comfortable with that then go ahead! How many kids/people do you know that have died from rotavirus or any gastritis for that matter? My guess is none. Yeah, you might get SEVERELY dehydrated, you might be miserable and hate your life for a few days. But in the US, this illness is very, very VERY rarely fatal. I know more Dr's who will not give this vaccine to their children than those who do. We all had rotavirus as kids and lived to talk about it. Daycare is the #1 perpetrator of this virus and if you believe otherwise you need to educate yourself. It is found in fecal matter so it is not as common in the general population as you make it out to be. Yes parents with older kids are a higher risk for their small babies being exposed, but again, I'll take my risks with the virus itself then the vaccine.

jlsimon56 · September 2011

Our LO got her vaccines this AM. Right now she is cooing in her crib (just woke up from a nap).

If you trust your pedi then you can take their advice. If you feel like you can't take your pedi's advice, you should get a new pedi.

I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.

babyduejune · September 2011

jlsimon56:
Our LO got her vaccines this AM. Right now she is cooing in her crib (just woke up from a nap).
If you trust your pedi then you can take their advice. If you feel like you can't take your pedi's advice, you should get a new pedi.
I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.

I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.

lucylea · September 2011

babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.

Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.

babyduejune · September 2011

lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.
Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.

AH haa... you admitted it! Exactly. They don't. always. work. further reason why I will not put that live virus vaccine in my little 2 month old baby's body and inundate his developing CNS with an unnecessary virus. Again, how many people do you know who've died from this.....? right. none.

lucylea · September 2011

I also don't know anyone personally who has died from polio or not being in a carseat but it does happen so I'll continue to protect my children to the best of my ability. Again, its your choice to leave your child unprotected, but remember that you are also putting the people you come into contact with at risk by not vaccinating.

At this point I'm done with this conversation, you may go on believing what you believe, but after reading research studies on both sides, working for a very well-respected medical researcher, and transcribing many, many vaccine reports I will continue to protect my children by vaccinating. Good luck to you.

OP, sorry for hijacking your thread! Best of luck to you as well and I sincerely hope your LO is feeling better very soon.

babyduejune · September 2011

lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.
Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.

Also, I love how people love to fall back on the "herd immunity" argument, which if you really were educated about vaccines, you would know does not really apply to this vaccine in particular because adults have already been exposed, immunocompromised, vaccinated or not. If this virus was a risk to adults, they would be recommending this vaccine TO adults, and they are not. I bet you gave your baby the Hep B vaccine for "herd immunity" as well.

katie4253 · September 2011

babyduejune:
lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.
Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.
AH haa... you admitted it! Exactly. They don't. always. work. further reason why I will not put that live virus vaccine in my little 2 month old baby's body and inundate his developing CNS with an unnecessary virus. Again, how many people do you know who've died from this.....? right. none.

I've actually had it. It was the sickest I've ever been in my life. If I was a little kid/baby I would have been hospitalized without a doubt. I almost was as an adult because of the dehydration. It is nothing to mess around with. Half a million kids die worldwide from it. Yes, it is rare to die from it in the U.S. But, I will tell you. When I was in the throws of sickness I wished I was dead. It was hell.

babyduejune · September 2011

katie4253:
babyduejune:
lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.
Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.
AH haa... you admitted it! Exactly. They don't. always. work. further reason why I will not put that live virus vaccine in my little 2 month old baby's body and inundate his developing CNS with an unnecessary virus. Again, how many people do you know who've died from this.....? right. none.
I've actually had it. It was the sickest I've ever been in my life. If I was a little kid/baby I would have been hospitalized without a doubt. I almost was as an adult because of the dehydration. It is nothing to mess around with. Half a million kids die worldwide from it. Yes, it is rare to die from it in the U.S. But, I will tell you. When I was in the throws of sickness I wished I was dead. It was hell.

Did you have a stool sample done?

srs5624 · September 2011

babyduejune:
katie4253:
babyduejune:
lucylea:
babyduejune:

Did you have a stool sample done?

babyduejune:

Just curios what makes you believe you had rotavirus?? Was it diagnosed by a stool sample?

ETA: @ buckeye, sorry on my phone, quote button fail.

You seem to have one hell of a fetish there. Getting off on asking complete strangers if they had their poop examined... Can't say I've heard that one before.

Alrighty then. Hmm

babyduejune · September 2011

srs5624:
babyduejune:
katie4253:
babyduejune:
lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.
Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.
AH haa... you admitted it! Exactly. They don't. always. work. further reason why I will not put that live virus vaccine in my little 2 month old baby's body and inundate his developing CNS with an unnecessary virus. Again, how many people do you know who've died from this.....? right. none.
I've actually had it. It was the sickest I've ever been in my life. If I was a little kid/baby I would have been hospitalized without a doubt. I almost was as an adult because of the dehydration. It is nothing to mess around with. Half a million kids die worldwide from it. Yes, it is rare to die from it in the U.S. But, I will tell you. When I was in the throws of sickness I wished I was dead. It was hell.
Did you have a stool sample done?
You seem to have one hell of a fetish there. Getting off on asking complete strangers if they had their poop examined... Can't say I've heard that one before.
Alrighty then.

Ha. right. It's because I have a fetish, clearly. wow. OR it could be bc that's HOW rotavirus is accurately diagnosed. And if you didn't have one done when you were sick, then you have NO idea if what you had was in fact rotavirus, which, like I said 5 times is EXCEEDINGLY rare for adults to get! But your immature assumption that I must have a fecal fetish will give me something to giggle about all day, so thanks for that.

srs5624 · September 2011

babyduejune:
srs5624:
babyduejune:
katie4253:
babyduejune:
lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.

Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.

AH haa... you admitted it! Exactly. They don't. always. work. further reason why I will not put that live virus vaccine in my little 2 month old baby's body and inundate his developing CNS with an unnecessary virus. Again, how many people do you know who've died from this.....? right. none.

I've actually had it. It was the sickest I've ever been in my life. If I was a little kid/baby I would have been hospitalized without a doubt. I almost was as an adult because of the dehydration. It is nothing to mess around with. Half a million kids die worldwide from it. Yes, it is rare to die from it in the U.S. But, I will tell you. When I was in the throws of sickness I wished I was dead. It was hell.

Did you have a stool sample done?

You seem to have one hell of a fetish there. Getting off on asking complete strangers if they had their poop examined... Can't say I've heard that one before.

Alrighty then.

Ha. right. It's because I have a fetish, clearly. wow. OR it could be bc that's HOW rotavirus is accurately diagnosed. And if you didn't have one done when you were sick, then you have NO idea if what you had was in fact rotavirus, which, like I said 5 times is EXCEEDINGLY rare for adults to get! But your immature assumption that I must have a fecal fetish will give me something to giggle about all day, so thanks for that.

Glad to give you amusement. You did the same for me. I find it entertaining that you are so thick-headed and desperate prove whatever point you're stumbling to find, that you actually had to stoop to asking complete strangers if they pooped in a bag and had a doctor test it.

Wow... that must be some point that you're groping around to find.

Good luck with that.

babyduejune · September 2011

srs5624:
babyduejune:
srs5624:
babyduejune:
katie4253:
babyduejune:
lucylea:
babyduejune:

Seriously?? If your kid is vaccinated and it is working then why do you care?? lol, get a grip.
Because despite the decision to get a vaccine they don't always work. Some of us are unfortunate enough to be vaccine resistant and/or immune compromised and need herd immunity to keep us safe.
AH haa... you admitted it! Exactly. They don't. always. work. further reason why I will not put that live virus vaccine in my little 2 month old baby's body and inundate his developing CNS with an unnecessary virus. Again, how many people do you know who've died from this.....? right. none.
I've actually had it. It was the sickest I've ever been in my life. If I was a little kid/baby I would have been hospitalized without a doubt. I almost was as an adult because of the dehydration. It is nothing to mess around with. Half a million kids die worldwide from it. Yes, it is rare to die from it in the U.S. But, I will tell you. When I was in the throws of sickness I wished I was dead. It was hell.
Did you have a stool sample done?
You seem to have one hell of a fetish there. Getting off on asking complete strangers if they had their poop examined... Can't say I've heard that one before.
Alrighty then.
Ha. right. It's because I have a fetish, clearly. wow. OR it could be bc that's HOW rotavirus is accurately diagnosed. And if you didn't have one done when you were sick, then you have NO idea if what you had was in fact rotavirus, which, like I said 5 times is EXCEEDINGLY rare for adults to get! But your immature assumption that I must have a fecal fetish will give me something to giggle about all day, so thanks for that.
Glad to give you amusement. You did the same for me. I find it entertaining that you are so thick-headed and desperate prove whatever point you're stumbling to find, that you actually had to stoop to asking complete strangers if they pooped in a bag and had a doctor test it.
Wow... that must be some point that you're groping around to find.
Good luck with that.

Welp, my job requires me to ask people about their poop on a daily basis so you'll have to forgive my bluntness and audacity in asking a complete stranger something soooo yucky!!! ewww! POOP is gross!

FordFalcor · September 2011

OP, I didn't know anything about the Rotavirus vaccine either. I had researched all the others. However, I trust our pediatrician and let my daughter have it.

If a certain previous poster's claims have worried you, do some research. I particularly liked this article: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe1105302 and especially the last paragraph:

It is crucial that the medical community in general, and the vaccine establishment in particular, work to better educate the public to the fact that virtually all beneficial interventions, including vaccination, come with some risk and that the key issue is to ensure that the ratio of benefit to risk is most favorable. As Patel and colleagues point out, in Mexico alone, RV1 vaccination would be expected to prevent 663 childhood deaths and 11,551 hospitalizations, while causing 41 excess hospitalizations and 2 additional deaths due to intussusception. Similar favorable ratios of benefit to risk would be expected to be found in virtually all less-developed countries, in which diarrheal disease remains a leading cause of death. A favorable ratio would probably also be present with RV4. Rotavirus infection is now a rare cause of death in the United States but remains a very common cause of hospitalization and physician visits.9 Intussusception is also a rare cause of death in the United States and other developed countries. Given the low rates of intussusception associated with rotavirus vaccine that were observed in Mexico and Brazil, as well as the possibility that rotavirus vaccination might actually reduce the absolute rate of intussusception, it seems both appropriate and advisable to continue to recommend the rotavirus vaccine for children in both the developed and the developing world, on the basis of the increasingly well documented and substantial benefits.

srs5624 · September 2011

babyduejune:

Welp, my job requires me to ask people about their poop on a daily basis so you'll have to forgive my bluntness and audacity in asking a complete stranger something soooo yucky!!! ewww! POOP is gross!

I never said it was gross. I cuss like a trucker and tell more schit jokes than a plumber. I'm definitely not grossed out by a little poo.

Serious question... you don't see how it comes across as desperate if you have to ask internet strangers about their poop just to prove a point?

Remove yourself from the situation and think about it for two seconds. Chill. Seriously.

babyduejune · September 2011

srs5624:
babyduejune:

Welp, my job requires me to ask people about their poop on a daily basis so you'll have to forgive my bluntness and audacity in asking a complete stranger something soooo yucky!!! ewww! POOP is gross!
I never said it was gross. I cuss like a trucker and tell more schit jokes than a plumber. I'm definitely not grossed out by a little poo.
Serious question... you don't see how it comes across as desperate if you have to ask internet strangers about their poop just to prove a point?
Remove yourself from the situation and think about it for two seconds. Chill. Seriously.

Oh sister I'm cool as a cucumber, I'm cracking up over here. I think you're hilarious, seriously. I don't see it as desperate at all, I find it funny that no one can answer the damn question. You call me thickheaded but you're as dense as they come if you can't see the point i'm making. No poop examination=no rotavirus diagnosis= you can't talk about how awful it was when you had rotavirus. Does that help??

srs5624 · September 2011

babyduejune:
srs5624:
babyduejune:

Welp, my job requires me to ask people about their poop on a daily basis so you'll have to forgive my bluntness and audacity in asking a complete stranger something soooo yucky!!! ewww! POOP is gross!

I never said it was gross. I cuss like a trucker and tell more schit jokes than a plumber. I'm definitely not grossed out by a little poo.

Serious question... you don't see how it comes across as desperate if you have to ask internet strangers about their poop just to prove a point?

Remove yourself from the situation and think about it for two seconds. Chill. Seriously.

Oh sister I'm cool as a cucumber, I'm cracking up over here. I think you're hilarious, seriously. I don't see it as desperate at all, I find it funny that no one can answer the damn question. You call me thickheaded but you're as dense as they come if you can't see the point i'm making. No poop examination=no rotavirus diagnosis= you can't talk about how awful it was when you had rotavirus. Does that help??

I assume those posters are not answering you because that's private information and yes, it can be embarrassing. Not everyone deals with schit on a daily basis.

It's safe to assume that they were diagnosed by a physician. They don't need a secondary diagnosis over the internet... which you can't do anyway since you don't have access to their poop.

It is possible for someone in this country to get it. Rare =/= non-existant. So there's no need to second guess whether or not these people have had rotavirus. The Bump is accessible internationally... I didn't see if those posters had a location listed, but it is possible that they're not even from America. Just a thought.

In summary, I'm done. I was just pointing out the obvious reason why you're not going to get an answer from some people. I've got a teething 6 month old and loud, drunken jackass neighbors, so I didn't get much sleep last night and I'm in no state to get into any type of debate... which I see you're chomping at the bit to do. Sorry, I'm not biting. Too tired. Maybe P&CE on the Nest would help you there. They like to debate stuff like this.

Good luck with that. Since tone is un-readable and you apparently think that I'm all worked up or getting offended when I'm really posting in jest, I leave you with...

babyduejune · September 2011

Obviously the majority of you fall into the camp of those who don't want to be presented with the cons of any vaccine, who will happily and willingly shoot whatever vaccine into their baby's body that their pediatrician tell them is "safe". If that's what works for you, great. I answered the OP's original post. I didn't tell anyone not to get vaccines, but yes, it drives me insane when people make uneducated assertions and inuendos that you must be a bad/stupid/uneducated person for not giving EVERY vaccine. I do vaccinate, but I make the decision on which ones very very carefully and don't assume they're safe because my

"pediatrician says so". You tell parents who lost their baby to intussusception that it's "safe". I'm sorry for those of you who just want to blindly believe you're 100% doing the right thing, that I might have put cracks in that belief. Being a parent is hard work, many decisions that you'll make you won't know if they are 100% right, no I don't know 100% what I'm doing is right, yes i will feel AWFUL if my baby has to be hospitalized due to dehydration with rota. BUT for me, I feel the risk of that is less than the risk of the side effects of the vaccine. OP asked about parents who didn't give it and why, I told her. OP- If you are interested in more info about which vaccines to give, those to delay, those to skip altogether, there is a lot of information and resources out there. I hope you can find a decision that you will be comfortable with. GL.

babyduejune · September 2011

srs5624:
babyduejune:
srs5624:
babyduejune:

Welp, my job requires me to ask people about their poop on a daily basis so you'll have to forgive my bluntness and audacity in asking a complete stranger something soooo yucky!!! ewww! POOP is gross!
I never said it was gross. I cuss like a trucker and tell more schit jokes than a plumber. I'm definitely not grossed out by a little poo.
Serious question... you don't see how it comes across as desperate if you have to ask internet strangers about their poop just to prove a point?
Remove yourself from the situation and think about it for two seconds. Chill. Seriously.
Oh sister I'm cool as a cucumber, I'm cracking up over here. I think you're hilarious, seriously. I don't see it as desperate at all, I find it funny that no one can answer the damn question. You call me thickheaded but you're as dense as they come if you can't see the point i'm making. No poop examination=no rotavirus diagnosis= you can't talk about how awful it was when you had rotavirus. Does that help??
I assume those posters are not answering you because that's private information and yes, it can be embarrassing. Not everyone deals with schit on a daily basis.
It's safe to assume that they were diagnosed by a physician. They don't need a secondary diagnosis over the internet... which you can't do anyway since you don't have access to their poop.
It is possible for someone in this country to get it. Rare =/= non-existant. So there's no need to second guess whether or not these people have had rotavirus. The Bump is accessible internationally... I didn't see if those posters had a location listed, but it is possible that they're not even from America. Just a thought.
In summary, I'm done. I was just pointing out the obvious reason why you're not going to get an answer from some people. I've got a teething 6 month old and loud, drunken jackass neighbors, so I didn't get much sleep last night and I'm in no state to get into any type of debate... which I see you're chomping at the bit to do. Sorry, I'm not biting. Too tired. Maybe P&CE on the Nest would help you there. They like to debate stuff like this.
Good luck with that. Since tone is un-readable and you apparently think that I'm all worked up or getting offended when I'm really posting in jest, I leave you with...

Cute! love the corn kernels in there I'm sorry poop is such an embarassing topic for some people and if I really humiliated you by asking that! I guess it just doesn't phase me to say yes or no to a stool sample in front of a bunch of yes, strangers, who I will likely never know or meet thanks for the poo- have a great day.

lauros7776 · September 2011

jlsimon56:

Our LO got her vaccines this AM. Right now she is cooing in her crib (just woke up from a nap).

If you trust your pedi then you can take their advice. If you feel like you can't take your pedi's advice, you should get a new pedi.

I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.

I 1000000% agree with this. Since the creation of the internet, it seems like people in general seem to know more than their doctors. It is kind of scary! OP, if you are concerned, give your pedi a call....that is what they are there for and I hope your LO feels better soon.

reginagina · September 2011

My DS had it when he was 2 months (he is now 5) and he actually got rotavirus. It didn't last more than 2 days with foul smelling diarrhea the only symptom.

babyduejune · September 2011

lauros7776:
jlsimon56:

Our LO got her vaccines this AM. Right now she is cooing in her crib (just woke up from a nap).
If you trust your pedi then you can take their advice. If you feel like you can't take your pedi's advice, you should get a new pedi.
I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.
I 1000000% agree with this. Since the creation of the internet, it seems like people in general seem to know more than their doctors. It is kind of scary! OP, if you are concerned, give your pedi a call....that is what they are there for and I hope your LO feels better soon.

There's a term for people who like to take "professional's" advice instead of using their own brain, it's called sheeple. google it for the record, I am a medical professional and in addition my pediatrician agrees with my decision to withhold the rotavirus vax. So yes, there are plenty of Docs out there who aren't a fan of this particular vaccine. Again, research for yourself.

lauros7776 · September 2011

babyduejune:
lauros7776:
jlsimon56:

Our LO got her vaccines this AM. Right now she is cooing in her crib (just woke up from a nap).

If you trust your pedi then you can take their advice. If you feel like you can't take your pedi's advice, you should get a new pedi.

I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.

I 1000000% agree with this. Since the creation of the internet, it seems like people in general seem to know more than their doctors. It is kind of scary! OP, if you are concerned, give your pedi a call....that is what they are there for and I hope your LO feels better soon.

There's a term for people who like to take "professional's" advice instead of using their own brain, it's called sheeple. google it for the record, I am a medical professional and in addition my pediatrician agrees with my decision to withhold the rotavirus vax. So yes, there are plenty of Docs out there who aren't a fan of this particular vaccine. Again, research for yourself.

lol.

jillybean222 · September 2011

I am pretty sure my two older girls had the Rotavirus vaccine. I can't tell you what (if any) side effects they had, but I can tell you they never had bowel surgery.

I hope your DD feels better soon. Also, FWIW, I will be vaccinating DD #3 even though I am a SAHM and she will not be in daycare. I have a 2 older children, one is a germy preschooler and the other a germy toddler

jillybean222 · September 2011

babyduejune: May I ask what your background is? What type of "medical professional" are you? Keep in mind, you asked about other people's poop so I think this is a fair question

Medical professional is a very vague yet powerful term...just wondering, thanks!

dairygirl19 · September 2011

lauros7776:
jlsimon56:

Our LO got her vaccines this AM. Right now she is cooing in her crib (just woke up from a nap).

If you trust your pedi then you can take their advice. If you feel like you can't take your pedi's advice, you should get a new pedi.

I hope my child never comes in contact with another child who hasn't had this vaccine, at daycare or anywhere.

I 1000000% agree with this. Since the creation of the internet, it seems like people in general seem to know more than their doctors. It is kind of scary! OP, if you are concerned, give your pedi a call....that is what they are there for and I hope your LO feels better soon.

Word. I totally agree. While I believe in being educated I also believe it's okay to trust your pedi. I think it's weird the number of people that don't. I researched for a pedi I trusted and could get a long with so I don't have to research everything else all of the time. It's what I pay him the big bucks for. It also amazes the number of people that trust random bumpies and Dr. google for their medical advice. One scare tactic article or post and people are mistrusting their drs. left and right. Anyone can make sh*t up on the internet people.

babyduejune · September 2011

jillybean222:
babyduejune: May I ask what your background is? What type of "medical professional" are you? Keep in mind, you asked about other people's poop so I think this is a fair question Medical professional is a very vague yet powerful term...just wondering, thanks!

I am a Physician Assistant. I have a Bachelors of Arts degree in French, and a Bachelor of Science in biology, health sciences, and pre-dental preparation. I have a masters in Physician Assistant Studies and am board certified. I have minors in chemistry and psychology. My husband is a pharmacist, my dad & brothers are dentists, my uncle is a pediatrician.... I am surrounded by the medical field daily whether I want to be or not. I realize my family credentials are not pertaining, but threw them in there just for fun.

ETA: you are all really thrown by the stool sample thing! Hilarious! I never would have thought it'd make such a stink (HA!) to ask someone if they had a stool sample done while they were sick. Considering that is the ONLY ACCURATE WAY to diagnose rotavirus it seems like a pretty obvious question to me, however I guess I forget how people who are not in the medical field find stupid things embarassing. I have to do rectal exams, talk about poop, pelvic exams, on literally a daily basis so asking about a stool sample doesn't make me blush.

jillybean222 · September 2011

babyduejune:
jillybean222:
babyduejune: May I ask what your background is? What type of "medical professional" are you? Keep in mind, you asked about other people's poop so I think this is a fair question Medical professional is a very vague yet powerful term...just wondering, thanks!

I am a Physician Assistant. I have a Bachelors of Arts degree in French, and a Bachelor of Science in biology, health sciences, and pre-dental preparation. I have a masters in Physician Assistant Studies and am board certified. I have minors in chemistry and psychology. My husband is a pharmacist, my dad & brothers are dentists, my uncle is a pediatrician.... I am surrounded by the medical field daily whether I want to be or not. I realize my family credentials are not pertaining, but threw them in there just for fun.

My sister is also a PA and my BIL is a doctor and they are also parents and I routinely ask them for their medical opinion. Sometimes I take their advice, sometimes I don't. The way you presented your opinion, not your opinion itself, made me question your background. Thanks for responding.

babyduejune · September 2011

jillybean222:
babyduejune:
jillybean222:
babyduejune: May I ask what your background is? What type of "medical professional" are you? Keep in mind, you asked about other people's poop so I think this is a fair question Medical professional is a very vague yet powerful term...just wondering, thanks!

I am a Physician Assistant. I have a Bachelors of Arts degree in French, and a Bachelor of Science in biology, health sciences, and pre-dental preparation. I have a masters in Physician Assistant Studies and am board certified. I have minors in chemistry and psychology. My husband is a pharmacist, my dad & brothers are dentists, my uncle is a pediatrician.... I am surrounded by the medical field daily whether I want to be or not. I realize my family credentials are not pertaining, but threw them in there just for fun.

My sister is also a PA and my BIL is a doctor and they are also parents and I routinely ask them for their medical opinion. Sometimes I take their advice, sometimes I don't. The way you presented your opinion, not your opinion itself, made me question your background. Thanks for responding.

No prob. I know I go against the mainstream in many of my opinions. I have practiced emergency, family, and integrative medicine but clearly am more of an "integrative" mindset, eg: I will give my kids Vit. D injection before getting them a flu shot (which is about ~40% effective, meaning, you have less than a coin flip chance of it actually working). I have researched infectious diseases, immunology and genetics extensively, I took my immunology course through Berkley. I obviously understand the importance of some vaccines and definitely advocate those- but this rotavax is a joke. It has been taken off the market not once, but twice. Clearly not enough research was done before it was released so I will not be using my son as Mercks guinea pig until they get their shiz together and get a vaccine that is not contaminated and proven safety will I consider it.

jillybean222 · September 2011

babyduejune:
jillybean222:
babyduejune:
jillybean222:
babyduejune: May I ask what your background is? What type of "medical professional" are you? Keep in mind, you asked about other people's poop so I think this is a fair question Medical professional is a very vague yet powerful term...just wondering, thanks!

I am a Physician Assistant. I have a Bachelors of Arts degree in French, and a Bachelor of Science in biology, health sciences, and pre-dental preparation. I have a masters in Physician Assistant Studies and am board certified. I have minors in chemistry and psychology. My husband is a pharmacist, my dad & brothers are dentists, my uncle is a pediatrician.... I am surrounded by the medical field daily whether I want to be or not. I realize my family credentials are not pertaining, but threw them in there just for fun.

My sister is also a PA and my BIL is a doctor and they are also parents and I routinely ask them for their medical opinion. Sometimes I take their advice, sometimes I don't. The way you presented your opinion, not your opinion itself, made me question your background. Thanks for responding.
No prob. I know I go against the mainstream in many of my opinions. I have practiced emergency, family, and integrative medicine but clearly am more of an "integrative" mindset, eg: I will give my kids Vit. D injection before getting them a flu shot (which is about ~40% effective, meaning, you have less than a coin flip chance of it actually working). I have researched infectious diseases, immunology and genetics extensively, I took my immunology course through Berkley. I obviously understand the importance of some vaccines and definitely advocate those- but this rotavax is a joke. It has been taken off the market not once, but twice. Clearly not enough research was done before it was released so I will not be using my son as Mercks guinea pig until they get their shiz together and get a vaccine that is not contaminated and proven safety will I consider it.

Ha, I go against the mainstream a lot of the time too but I take vaccines pretty seriously. DH is a firefighter and gets exposed to all kinds of crazy stuff (and people, lol) and my older children bring god-only-knows-what home from school, playgrounds, gymnastics class, etc. so I have to be extra protective of my little one when it didn't matter as much with the first two. I sort of feel like I am being negligent if I don't give her a flu shot or rotavirus - even if it is only a coin-flip chance that it will be effective. Better than no chance at all, right?!?!?

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