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Pedi said me NOT feeding in the MOTN shouldn't affect my supply

C is still not STTN. The pedi did not like that.

  I'll admitted I feed her in the MOTN because I feel it helps keep my supply up(when it's already dropping)

That I think C is truly hungry because she guzzles the crap outta me.

Pedi told me that me feeding her would have nothing to do with my supply and that she shouldn't be hungry.

FWIW She normally wakes up 6-8 hours after she goes down. She's 9 months now

Thoughts?

 

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Re: Pedi said me NOT feeding in the MOTN shouldn't affect my supply

  • My thoughts are that you are the mom and unless you are unhappy with getting up and feeding her during the motn then you shouldn't change your routine.  And YES it can possibly affect your supply to drop that feeding.  Being that you are having supply issues as it is, I wouldn't chance it, but that's me. 

    Yes, it's possible she is not really hungry and is feeding out of habit.   

    I just feel like it's your call not the peds unless it is detrimental to her health and well being, which it is not.  

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  • Tracey woke up to nurse until she was 13 months and I finally started to wean her from it. I couldn't deal with the crying and crying and crying if I tried to settle her down without nursing. 

    If you can handle it, there's no reason to stop.  

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    C is still not STTN. The pedi did not like that.

      I'll admitted I feed her in the MOTN because I feel it helps keep my supply up(when it's already dropping)

    That I think C is truly hungry because she guzzles the crap outta me.

    Pedi told me that me feeding her would have nothing to do with my supply and that she shouldn't be hungry.

    FWIW She normally wakes up 6-8 hours after she goes down. She's 9 months now

    Thoughts?

     

    There is a great book called "what your pediatrician doesn't know can hurt your child". It is written by a pediatrician named Dr. Susan Markel. Unless your pediatrician is a lactation consultant/IBCLC/specialist, they probably are not very learned in what will affect your supply. NOT feeding in the MOTN CAN affect your supply, or make your baby nurse more during the day.... regardless, it may create engorged breasts or low milk supply...

     The best odds is to FOD (feed on demand) as your baby knows what she needs. You can try night weaning through gentle practices, such as Dr. Sears... 

    Another thing to consider, moreso than breastfeeding, is her nap schedule. Most 9 months old who are breastfed sleep 12-14 hours per 24 hour period. If your child is sleeping 2 4-hour naps during the day, only expect 4-6 hours total sleep during the night. If you put her down at 10pm, she will probably be 'up around 3-4 hours sporadically during the night to make up that awake time she missed during the day.

    Finally, if it doesn't bother you, and doesn't bother her, there is nothing to worry about if she is growing and thriving. If it is bothering you or her, or her health is depleting because of it, then, perhaps, you might consider some of the things above. 

  • Thanks girls! Naps are a joke right now at day care. She takes one 30-40 minute one. If there is action she doesn't want to miss the action! She will take a nap when she gets home for about an hour or so. Bed time is around 7:30-8:00. She is always happy and in a good mood so we haven't pushed it
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  • Maybe you could find a good LC and get a second opinion?

    LCs deal with lactation all day, every day. Doctors may or may not share the same level of experience. Sometimes the doc's goals are simply different or differently informed. I like to weigh that against someone expert in an area.

    For example, your doc would send you to pediatric cardiology for another opinion, because your doc knows he/she doesn't have that expertise. You would go. Consulting a better subject-matter-expert, like an LC, might be a good idea? 

  • lilygirl said it so well

    fwiw, eliza isn't STTN on a regular basis either, but it's less than 20 minutes to deal with nursing her, far less time than it would take for her to CIO so it truly doesn't bother me

  • she's a fast nurser so I'm generally back in bed after 15 minutes including my pee stops ;-)

     

    Where do I find a LC?  Do any work on the weekends?  Do they make house calls?

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  • Where (at which hospital) did you have DD? Your hospital probably has LC's that you can call. 

    Also - A Woman's Work https://www.awomanswork.com/services.php

     

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    Where (at which hospital) did you have DD? Your hospital probably has LC's that you can call. 

    Also - A Woman's Work https://www.awomanswork.com/services.php

     

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  • Everyone else has pretty much covered it:

    1. You're the expert in your child, not your pedi.  I don't care what your pedi says, if it doesn't feel right to you, it's not.
    2. Your pedi doesn't know a whole lot about lactation, clearly.
    3. I don't care what pediatricians have to say about sleeping - i.e., when all babies should be STTN, etc.  Babies are individuals just like you and me and will do different things - including STTN - when they are ready.   
    Bottom line:  Nursing her in the MOTN is helpful to your supply, and if you aren't unhappy nursing her in the night, I wouldn't force the issue.  She'll STTN when she's ready.

    ETA:  My pedi is more of the "as long as it isn't troubling you" sort when it comes to sleep, so it hasn't been an issue, but with friends who have pedi's more like yours (i.e., not happy that their baby isn't STTN yet), they have learned to answer the sleep question with, "She's sleeping just fine."
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  • Sandy at A Woman's Work doesn't make house calls, but she does do scheduled appointments on the weekends at their shop, so it's pretty easy to get in to see her.

    The LC's at Women's Hospital are also really nice (that's who I dealt with when nursing Marion) but you see them at the hospital as well.

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    Everyone else has pretty much covered it:

    1. You're the expert in your child, not your pedi.  I don't care what your pedi says, if it doesn't feel right to you, it's not.
    2. Your pedi doesn't know a whole lot about lactation, clearly.
    3. I don't care what pediatricians have to say about sleeping - i.e., when all babies should be STTN, etc.  Babies are individuals just like you and me and will do different things - including STTN - when they are ready.   

    Bottom line:  Nursing her in the MOTN is helpful to your supply, and if you aren't unhappy nursing her in the night, I wouldn't force the issue.  She'll STTN when she's ready.

    ETA:  My pedi is more of the "as long as it isn't troubling you" sort when it comes to sleep, so it hasn't been an issue, but with friends who have pedi's more like yours (i.e., not happy that their baby isn't STTN yet), they have learned to answer the sleep question with, "She's sleeping just fine."

    All of this, exactly.

    Truitt never STTN until he was over 2 yo, but now he sleeps like a dream (when, incidentally, several of my friends whose babies STTN and now as pre-Kers are up at all hours). Sleep is a milestone and K said it perfectly- we are all individuals, including babies.

    I actually left my 1st pedi because, even though she had 2 kids of her own, she seemed to know and care very little about nursing other.

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  • I second Sandy at Woman's Work. She helped us get through really impossible things including serial bottle feeding, interrupted nursing due to NICU and my continual mastitis.

     

    I tell you, her advice got Sean nursing and me sane after all that garbage...even though he didn't nurse in the beginning, he finally did months later and still does at almost 2. She was respectful of me, respectful of my abnormal situation, respectful of Sean, and knowledgeable.

    I appreciated her help and support in an uphill battle to decide to regain or leave nursing behind. She offered encouragement without judgment - I really needed her help.

  • I think all kids are different - she may actually be hungry...and she may just have a habit.  I can say that C STTN then - probably from 9pm to 6am.  I had no desire to wake up at any point during those hours.  But, that was me.  I have heck going back to sleep after waking up, so it wouldn't be a quick 20 min nursing session...I'd lay in bed for an hour trying to fall back asleep. 

    If you're willing to keep at it, then go for it.

  • i think she is normal and getting up once is not that unusual IMO. Sleeping 6-8 hours is good too.

    Your milk suppy does increase in the middle of the night, so it is helping you mainain he supply.

    Good for you at breastfeeding this far out!

     

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  • Zip it! I'll respond via email.
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    Zip it! I'll respond via email.

    ha

     

    I emailed you about it =)

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