how many of you conceived multiples on a FET

nikinikinine · August 2011

my nurse told me that she's only seen twins conceived twice in her 14 years working at a clinic. I think she's completely full of sh!t and doesn't want me to be freaked out with our upcoming FET. So, on that note, if you did an FET and ended up with more than one baby...

how many did you transfer?

did you have AH or ICSI?

TIA

SpinningJess · August 2011

Uh yeah have to agree with you on her being full of it! I have a friend with 2 sets of FET twins. Once the put in 3 and none took. Then did 2 and both took. That was first set. Second set they put in 2 and neither took, next cycle put in 2 and both took. Her twins are 2.5 years apart. She's a natural mom and great at juggling all of the kids (they have an older son as well). She's actually considering trying the last frosties sometime, I think they have 3 left. But I think they'd do one at a time from here on out.

This font sucks, not sure how I got it!

schoolsoutbride · August 2011

Yeah, BS.

FET twins. transferred 2. ICSI.

Ours only does AH on 3DT and we did a 5DT + 5dFET.

If I were to do it again (which I am SOOO not), I would do a SET, though that's complicated by them freezing in pairs.

nikinikinine · August 2011

schoolsoutbride:
If I were to do it again (which I am SOOO not), I would do a SET, though that's complicated by them freezing in pairs.

yup, our last two were frozen as a pair. If they both survive the thaw, they're both going in the oven. I (personally) can't live with the what if's if I only picked one to transfer.

I'm trying not to stress about it too much since the possibilities are endless. None could survive, one could survive, both could survive, I could end up with twins, I can end up with quads. I could go crazy thinking of all the possibilities.

Ruby_Tuesday · August 2011

Total BS.

3 transferred, AH, fraternal

jcath · August 2011

Well mine was a frozen egg thawed and icsi'ed with fresh sperm but transferred one having two

kimarino13 · August 2011

Me. Chemical with FET #1. Transferred the last 3 on FET #2 and one split. We did ICSI but not AH. They were a mixed bag of day 5 and 6 blasts.

petite chouette · August 2011

I did. We thawed two, transferred two, and two stuck. We did not do AH or ICSI.

oct92004bride · August 2011

I had 2 five day blasts transferred. Did AH and ICSI transferred both (they thaw them in pairs).both stuck and one split into the identicals. So we're having triplets 2 identical girls and 1 boy. We were in total shock when they told us we thought 2 at most! The RE said in his 15 years of practice he never saw trips from frozen embryos? I thought that was odd too. They do say fresh cycles work better then frozen? Not in my case. Good luck on your upcoming FET whatever you decide.

hep01 · August 2011

Add me to the list! Transferred 2 3day w/ ICSI. Both took!

I think that lady was full of Sh!t too!!

bmf8140 · August 2011

We did!

We transferred 2 fresh and ended up with my son, Bennett. From that cycle, there were 2 left to freeze. We transferred both of those and ended up with twins.

smeyer · August 2011

I think your nurse might be a little nutty or she has a bad memory. My 2 are from a FET where we transferred 2 ICSI'd and AH'd (both standard practice at my clinic) embryos.

ETA: Can't agree more with both you and school'sout. Having embryos stored in pairs makes things really complicated. I'd love to do a SET but I couldn't bear the thought of giving up one embryo if both looked good after the thaw. Honestly, this is a huge factor in us possibly considering our family complete. We'd love more kids but I really worry about the difficulty of raising twins while pg with twins. I'm not getting any younger and, in the end, my pg when from perfect to scary in a matter of days. :-/

Jenny829 · August 2011

We transferred two and they both stuck

They did AH when they thawed. Before they were frozen (back in 2009) they were ICSId as well. That nurse does sound like she is full of it. Good luck!

scorch · August 2011

nikinikinine:
schoolsoutbride:

If I were to do it again (which I am SOOO not), I would do a SET, though that's complicated by them freezing in pairs.

yup, our last two were frozen as a pair. If they both survive the thaw, they're both going in the oven. I (personally) can't live with the what if's if I only picked one to transfer.

I'm trying not to stress about it too much since the possibilities are endless. None could survive, one could survive, both could survive, I could end up with twins, I can end up with quads. I could go crazy thinking of all the possibilities.

That was how I was thinking when we did our FET. And I love my babies so very much. Im so glad that the came the way they did and I get a little nauseaous when I think that one of them could still be frozen or that we gave it away or it was used for science.

I had twins on a FET, no ICSI. Total BS.

gumiberg · August 2011

in general, FETs are more likely to be successful than fresh IVF. the reason is because weak embryos will not survive the thaw. so, if the embryo survives the thaw, you know that embryo is strong. putting into 2 guaranteed strong embryos during an FET would give you a higher probability of twins than putting in *maybe* two strong embryos during a fresh cycle.

nikinikinine · August 2011

gumiberg:
in general, FETs are more likely to be successful than fresh IVF. the reason is because weak embryos will not survive the thaw. so, if the embryo survives the thaw, you know that embryo is strong. putting into 2 guaranteed strong embryos during an FET would give you a higher probability of twins than putting in *maybe* two strong embryos during a fresh cycle.

I can see why you'd think that. Our clinic only freezes embryos that are a certain grade. So even though I had 9 embryos still going on day 6, they only froze two because only two were considered "good enough". So your reasoning would make sense, that these might be stronger than the others had I been doing a fresh cycle.

However, my clinic's sart stats for fresh cycles resulting in live births (for my age) is 33%, the stats for FET's resulting in live births is 13%. At my clinic you have a much better chance of getting KU with a fresh cycle than a FET.

That's not to say I'm not playing with fire if both survive the thaw and I transfer them both. I am completely eyes wide open about what the possibilities are.

gumiberg · August 2011

that is interesting about your clinic's stats - mine has more success with FETs. I never did a fresh cycle, I froze all 20 of embryos. They had to thaw 6 in order to get our 2. it was surprising that some of the "grade A" embryos did not make it - the two that made it were actually "grade C" but upgraded during the thaw process. it warmed my heart to find out they were the underdogs!

Good luck to whatever you decide to do!

schoolsoutbride · August 2011

Considering SART and ACOG are now pushing SETs, I'm surprised clinics aren't freezing embies one at a time. I know I didn't even think to ask about it when we did our fresh IVF because, you know, it was going to work.

I feel like my body was happier with the FET. The hormones had me feeling physically really off, and the FET was more even-keel.

I had a feeling that if any stuck, both would stick.

BUT, good news is your body can carry full term twins, and having done that once, chances are MUCH better than you can do it again than someone who has never had twins before. (They gave me this line a lot with a full term singleton behind me, but I'd feel even better about it with a full term twin PG behind me.) Now the raising them part is a whole other can of worms, but you seem to handle it with grace. (more than me, ha ha).

Fancy3Face · August 2011

Not a FET success yet, but in similar shoes.

My clinic freezes embryo's singularly for this very reason. I have three frozen and each have their own straw, frozen on day 6. My RE strongly suggests we only go with one when we do our FET. She basically said what Gumiberg said. I understand your dilema though, I couldn't choose one embryo over another if they were frozen together. I'd transfer both if I was in your shoes also. Good luck!

nikinikinine · August 2011

schoolsoutbride:
Considering SART and ACOG are now pushing SETs, I'm surprised clinics aren't freezing embies one at a time. I know I didn't even think to ask about it when we did our fresh IVF because, you know, it was going to work.
I feel like my body was happier with the FET. The hormones had me feeling physically really off, and the FET was more even-keel.
I had a feeling that if any stuck, both would stick.
BUT, good news is your body can carry full term twins, and having done that once, chances are MUCH better than you can do it again than someone who has never had twins before. (They gave me this line a lot with a full term singleton behind me, but I'd feel even better about it with a full term twin PG behind me.) Now the raising them part is a whole other can of worms, but you seem to handle it with grace. (more than me, ha ha).

I won't even tell you that I asked for anything still developing/growing on day 5 to be cryo'd and for all of them to be frozen individually and that when I got the call on day 8, after having to call and ask what happened to my remaining embryos, that I was told that 7 were discarded and that 2 were frozen together. You can't possibly imagine how freaking pissed off I was. According to my nurse, the same one who is BS'ing me about multiples, she relayed the message to the embryologist, and she doesn't know what happened.

I think what happened is that my clinic's sart rates suck. In the past they would freeze everything and then work through natural selection with thaws and transfers. But as you can imagine, that meant that out of 15 transfers done, only 2 would result in pregnancies/live births. So they moved away from that policy and now they don't freeze anything under a certain grade. So they used the lost in translation excuse and that was that.

What's worse is that my clinic changed its fees and policies after my last IVF, and had they been the fees and policies in the first place we would not have been so aggressive with IVF #2 (although I can't imagine my life without one of these babies, so what am I really saying).

I want to feel all warm and fuzzy about ART and RE's but at the end of the day they are still a business, and people make decisions about who to see based on who is more successful creating babies, etc.

So even though I have many issues with some of the crap I went through over 14 months there, at the end of the day that stupid place brought me my munchkins, so I wouldn't change a thing.

If I had the choice I would do an SET definitely. Even if it meant that I ended up doing two FETs and still having 4 kids, that would be okay.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't terrified and a little sad for the twins if I do end up with another set of twins through this FET. Even though I know I could carry to term again and that it would be fine, that pregnancy was rough, especially the last ten weeks. Oy.

But it's a short sacrifice for a lifetime reward, right riiiiiight. Remind me of that in May of next year if this goes off the deep end

And you do just fine with your twins. All three of your boys, actually. They are lucky to have you!

shegak · August 2011

I'm not on here often anymore (with 2 sets of twins, I barely have any time to myself!) and who knows what my siggy says right now (probably that I'm 5,000 weeks pregnant!), but I saw your post and wanted to respond.

My 1st set of twins (boy/girl) will be 6 years old next week.. conceived through IUI & injectables.

My 2nd set of twins are almost 5 months old, and conceived by FET. This FET was our last ditch effort with our last embryos. (I had previously done a fresh IVF eSET didn't work, a second fresh IVF eSET that resulted in identical twins- we were shocked- but I lost them, and finally a FET with 2 transferred that was an early m/c.)

Our RE recommended we do a fresh IVF as our last effort since the success rate is obviously higher, but I was so emotionally and physically drained that we decided to use our last 2 embryos. The RE told me "not to get my hopes up" b/c most likely neither embryo would take since they weren't the "best grades" and he didn't want me to be disappointed if it failed. Well, it didn't fail. Both embryos stuck, stayed, and I delivered my twin boys, Henry and William, at 36w3d.

Just wanted to share my story, of the 2 little embryos that no one had any faith in. I was thinking/hoping that maybe just 1 of them would be good enough to stick around... turns out both of them were!

nikinikinine · August 2011

shegak:
I'm not on here often anymore (with 2 sets of twins, I barely have any time to myself!) and who knows what my siggy says right now (probably that I'm 5,000 weeks pregnant!), but I saw your post and wanted to respond.
My 1st set of twins (boy/girl) will be 6 years old next week.. conceived through IUI & injectables.
My 2nd set of twins are almost 5 months old, and conceived by FET. This FET was our last ditch effort with our last embryos. (I had previously done a fresh IVF eSET didn't work, a second fresh IVF eSET that resulted in identical twins- we were shocked- but I lost them, and finally a FET with 2 transferred that was an early m/c.)
Our RE recommended we do a fresh IVF as our last effort since the success rate is obviously higher, but I was so emotionally and physically drained that we decided to use our last 2 embryos. The RE told me "not to get my hopes up" b/c most likely neither embryo would take since they weren't the "best grades" and he didn't want me to be disappointed if it failed. Well, it didn't fail. Both embryos stuck, stayed, and I delivered my twin boys, Henry and William, at 36w3d.
Just wanted to share my story, of the 2 little embryos that no one had any faith in. I was thinking/hoping that maybe just 1 of them would be good enough to stick around... turns out both of them were!

you are so awesome to share this with me.

I told my husband last night, regarding the chance for a second set of multiples - it wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened to us and it might turn out to be one of the best things.

Congratulations on your little twins that could

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