So in the scheme of things this could have been worse, but since this was the worst issue we've had, it feels pretty horrible.
DH had just gone to the gym and Madison was waking up from her nap, and we played a little bit, did some tummy time and watched food network. She has been a joy all day, nothing but an angel. Then she started fussing, so I figured "hungry." She would suckle a bit then pull off, she did that a few times and I decided, "not hungry, bath time." I gave her a bath and she LOVED it, per usual, and when she was clean and dry and dressed I tried to feed her again. She started screaming her head off on my boob. She was arching her back so I thought maybe she has gas. I tried burping every way possible, jiggling, swaying, laying on tummy walking around, nothing worked. All the time she was making the "neh" sound cry (for you who aren't familiar with dunsten baby language, that means hungry). And I'm a SAHM, I've spent every second of the past 3 months with her, I feel like I know her cues. I kept trying to nurse her over and over for an hour and each time she would fight me and scream so hard and scratch me and her face went red. I KNEW she was hungry, and I was really getting concerned so I was thinking maybe it's me. Maybe she doesn't want me. I had some freezer milk, but didn't want to waste it in the event I was wrong so I filled a bottle with a few oz of water, and she took it! I was both relieved and horrified! What's the matter with me, why won't she nurse? She's nursed all day and suddenly I'm not good enough? I took the bottle out and tried to slide my breast in, and the crying resumed. Luckily I bought a nipple shield in the early days. I layed her down in her crib and got the shield and after a little struggle she took to it. After she finished the first breast I burped her, she fussed the whole time and ended up not burping, but I was able to switch to the other breast without the shield at all. I think by that point she was so worn out from crying and the milk that she didn't care. I've been really upset about this since it happened. I'm scared that this will repeat in the morning. Is this common? Is this going to be the norm? Is it a fluke? Please help me!
eta: I was able to nurse her to sleep, but elected not to give her a binky for fear of some weird latent nipple confusion being to blame.


Re: Wow, that was horrible!
I dealt with this off and on for about 2.5 weeks, starting about 3 weeks ago (we just ended it). Nursing strike.
Basically they are too busy with their new development, looking at new things, hearing new things and they don't want to find the time to nurse.
I cried. It was awful. I called my LC, she gave me some tips that helped. But, in the end, time was the only thing.
So, try nursing laying down with baby, side-lie nurse if you can. Also, walking around nursing helped, and nursing when baby was Just waking from a nap when they are too sleepy to understand.
It will pass. It sucks balls. I was there, I get it. I would respond better if someone didn't just filled his pants and I'm trying to get this done before he screams...
Violet did this 2 nights ago. She refused to nurse while screaming for about half an hour. I didn't pull out a bottle because I didn't want to waste my freezer stash and she'd nursed within the past couple of hours, but she might've taken it. I'm almost positive she was just exhausted because it was the end of the day and she had absolutely refused to nap in the 3-4 hours before her bedtime. After about half an hour of trying different positions and attempting to soothe her in any way possible, she fell asleep, napped for 30 minutes, then woke up and ate happily before going to sleep for the night.
Also, I hate the Dunstan baby language videos. Every time Violet makes a "neh" cry, I remember that segment of the video that we had to watch in child development class (because my professor thought they were hilarious) and want to barf.
BFP #1 9/7/10, EDD 5/14/11, Violet born 5/27/11.
BFP #2 4/9/12, EDD 12/16/12, M/C Rory 4/24/12.
BFP #3 10/6/12, EDD 6/16/12., Matilda born 6/17/13.
Yeah, my Gabby has only had the slow flow newborn nipples too, but it comes out of the bottle immediately, she doesn't have to do any work for a let down, KWIM? But it's just a theory, IDK maybe the nipple shield feels more like a bottle nipple? (never used one) But like you say if she's rarely had a bottle I doubt it would be a true "nipple confusion/preference" issue.
BFP #1 9/7/10, EDD 5/14/11, Violet born 5/27/11.
BFP #2 4/9/12, EDD 12/16/12, M/C Rory 4/24/12.
BFP #3 10/6/12, EDD 6/16/12., Matilda born 6/17/13.
DD did this last week and I thought all the exact same thoughts you did. I thought she was being lazy for a let down or I had no supply (fussing at breast, arching her back and kicking, etc), or it was AR (even though she had no signs her first 3 months...), I thought it was anything because it was so out of no where and weird and troubling.
Turns out it was a growth spurt and she was typical tired and cranky, this went along with it. She started out of no where, did it for 3-4 days, then stopped. She is back to normal, but it admittedly it was really irritating. Thankfully, as I said, she is back to normal now.
hmmm... would massaging help with that? It always helps me get more when i pump.
btw i LOVE the quote in your siggy!
I've tried, and I haven't noticed it helping. It really helps when I'm pumping, but maybe the stress of having her freaking out trying to get milk is keeping me from relaxing enough to allow the milk to let down? That doesn't sound very scientific. Haha.
BFP #1 9/7/10, EDD 5/14/11, Violet born 5/27/11.
BFP #2 4/9/12, EDD 12/16/12, M/C Rory 4/24/12.
BFP #3 10/6/12, EDD 6/16/12., Matilda born 6/17/13.
You are not alone. I posted about this weeks ago when it happened to me and since I'm an early may baby, no one else had been through it, I had no one!! But, for us, it's done, it just took some time. With ours too it was part growth spurt so for yours I'm sure it's a combo of everything.
It will pass, baby doesn't hate you, your supply is fine, there is nothing wrong with you (hope all that helps haha). It's just a phase
(a shittastic phase, but a phase)
11/2013- Diagnosed with stage 4 endometriosis
07/2014- emergency surgery to remove hemorrhaging cyst first RE missed, removed endo from fallopian tubes, hsg done, d&c performed to remove polyphs in uterus, femvue done, put on dexamethasone and metformin
08/2014- miscarriage, second RE refuses to mark down in charts, switch again
03/2016- IUI #1, waiting for results on April 17