we haven't had them here in MN, but they're starting to creep up here and there. It's HYSTERICAL to watch people try to navigate them, OMG. It's sooooo foreign and weird for them. (MN is notorious for really polite drivers - legend dictates if you get stuck at a 4-way stop sign all at once, you'll spend an hour there waving to eachother "you go!" "no, YOU go" "no really, I insist, YOU go" .... )
We drove them quite a bit in other countries... (try THAT not only going opposite sides, but with the stick shift ON the dash ON the left side!! lol) but it's just so funny to watch people navigate them here.
Re: Ever driven a "round about" ?
We have 2 in B-town and they are so annoying for the exact reason that you stated... You will sit at that yield sign foreeeever waving each other through but no one goes.
Ha! Round abouts always remind me of National Lampoon's European Vacation. "Hey kids, look there's Big Ben". I think I'm about due to watch that movie again!
I always feel like they aren't very clearly marked so everyone gets a little nervous about going when it's their turn.
We've traveled a bunch so we have encountered them a fair amount. When we went to Australia in 2008, MH was driving (left side, stick shift fun!) and in a fit of euphoria related to the funny nicknames Aussies use for things, he decided that Aussies should refer to roundabouts as "roundies." Now he can't drive around one without talking about roundies for hours. Sheesh!
But yes, I can imagine in the midwest they would seem very foreign and weird!
They're all over out here but when I was back in St Cloud, the new SuperWalmart had one at their exit (imagine THAT cluster!) and they had about 17 instructional signs about the store, parking lot, round-about entrance, etc....
It was very Walmartian....
Umm GO to MA. There are a million roteries in Mass it's one of the only states that still has them I think. The biggest one is down on the cape after you go ober the Borne Bridge and NOBODY can drive it, even though most have been going down to the Cape for years!
What about a jug handle? Those blew my mind when I moved to NJ.... what? you have to make a right to make a left? HUH????
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Yes! We got one near where I live recently - I can only think of maybe two others in the entire county - and it took awhile for people to get it down.
I drive in NJ enough that I'm familiar with them - although the ones at larger intersections still make me nervous. We stayed near the Arc de Triomphe round about in Paris and that was totally insane!
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I can think of a whole bunch here in Maine too - and we don't even have that much traffic!
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Isn't this why people from Maine call drivers from Mass Massholes? LOL
We have one here and I agree - people just don't know how to drive them. I used to live in the Twin Cities. At least you guys get to make legal U-Turns!
Why? What's the advantage of a loop-de-loop (what I used to call them as a kid)?
and total lol at the title of "traffic planner".
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There are a many reasons that we use that term for anyone driving a car with Massachusetts plates. I have a number of friends from Massachusetts - dear friends who are lovely and law-abiding in real life - and I wouldn't want to drive with any of them!
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DC is kind of known for them! They just add the chaos of DC driving and help people to get (even more) lost. There are many that have up to 8 entry and exit points from the circle. Or ones that you can drive on the inside or outside of the circle, depending on which exit you want to take.
DC is like a grid - numbered streets go north/south, lettered streets go east/west and all the state streets go diagonally and all meet in the middle at the Capitol. It was a good plan on paper, but whoa! Its a heck of a city to drive in!
They're new here too, popping up in the newer high end neighborhoods, so you'll see 3 snooty moms in their lexus SUV's, talking on their cell phones with kids screaming in the back as they try to navigate this "foreign concept" of driving. Some of they you might see take a few passes.
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They are all over the place around me and I drive through them daily. I'm amazed when I approcah them how confused people are by such a simple concept.
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LMFAO!!!! Where I grew up there were jug handles every few miles!
I hadn't seen one outside of Europe until the university that I went to/worked at put one in to deal with the massive traffic clog after they put in a huge sports arena. It helped a TON (once everyone got the hang of it
So my geek flag is flying high - I love thinking about traffic planning. Apparently the theory is that since traffic has the ability to flow constantly that circles are better at reducing congestion than a normal intersection with traffic lights.
I was just reading an article last night about a new traffic concept (I warned you about the geek flag) and how it involves traffic criss-crossing and means we'd be briefly driving on the left side of the road. It's supposed to be even more efficient than round abouts.
As others said, they are all over the place around here. I don't agree with the traffic planners though, but maybe because I drive with other "Massholes." There was one near my old house that was huge, and if you didn't just go, you would never get through it. I felt like I was taking my life in my hands every time - it was just a free for all!
We have 2 right near our new house - they are a bit more manageable, since people all seem to be going the same way for the most part. But if you try to get off at a different "exit" watch out!
We have some here in Wisconsin and some I find fine but when they have a ton of streets shooting off of them I think people get easily confused as to which lane they need to be in and how to exactly get off on the street they want.
I've heard that they help relieve congestion (although we have one here which people have to get through to get to an expressway entrance ramp and during rush hour it's a total joke, the traffic is at a complete stop so I actually think light would have better there) but traffic planners also like them because when there are accidents they tend to be less sever. So, less injuries and less property damage because everyone slows down to enter the roundabout and there isn't t-boning of cars, etc.
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I have 2 on my commute to work. I easily almost get smashed into about 5 times a week. One time a few years ago, I did get in an accident at oe on the way to work. Good times.
Oh- and here in rude NY, no one does the "no, you go" they just keep going an cut you off. lol
Both! I got lost the first time I came here to visit DH. I was living in East Stroudsburg at the time and came to surprise him for his birthday. I was the one surprised when I got lost and had to call him for help
OMG, like the 10000 times it took us to go around, get off on that next ramp, sit, wait, OMGTHEREWASTHEMERCADOTURNAROUND... lol... that place was a hoot!
There's ones we saw in Vietnam where they are 6-8 "lanes" deep, and everything from huge trucks to ox-drawn carriages navigate them. He who biggest wins. lol.
NJ has many and PA has some. I am very skilled at driving them, and I get road rage when others aren't.
I might need counseling for it!