To the skeptics...

SeaSoul · August 2011

I have always remained mum on this subject...have never reacted when it's happened, nor participated in discussions on the topic. This, I felt, was the best tactic. I was the first "victim" 2 years ago and was convinced it was a glitch after contacting the bump authorities, but my opinion changed over time, for a variety of reasons.

I was upset last night b/c I was already feeling wary about posting what I did (sensitive topic about toddler boys) and, sure enough, it was targeted.

I am not proud of my reaction, but I was in a foul mood anyway, and was particularly sensitive due to the nature of my post. Frankly, I don't care if it's just someone getting their kicks - what concerns me is the idea of some sicko out there who's interested in my kid (viewing my post over and over and over to see his picture or read about him). And if you knew what I posted about, you might understand why I reacted the way I did.

So, I apologize for stirring up drama - I think you know this is not my style. I understand we all see this differently, but I wish I wouldn't be chastised for the way I feel.

perry7285 · August 2011

i missed all of this so i have no idea what's going on, but just want to send you a hug and let you know that you have my sympathies. it's easier said than done to not get emotional about what happens with our posts. when i was on PAIF someone decided to one-star all of my posts (just me, not everyone else)--i actually got one-starred once after writing a post about a nightmare that i had about our lost twin. nikinikinine got so upset about that one that she complained to the bump.

anyway, whether someone's being an a$$hole or its a technological glitch, it sucks! (((hugs)))

SeaSoul · August 2011

perry7285:
i missed all of this so i have no idea what's going on, but just want to send you a hug and let you know that you have my sympathies. it's easier said than done to not get emotional about what happens with our posts. when i was on PAIF someone decided to one-star all of my posts (just me, not everyone else)--i actually got one-starred once after writing a post about a nightmare that i had about our lost twin. nikinikinine got so upset about that one that she complained to the bump.
anyway, whether someone's being an a$$hole or its a technological glitch, it sucks! (((hugs)))

Thanks for your support! For some reason, the one-star thing has never bothered me. Only the view count going up by the hundreds with each passing minute, b/c it's just freaky. But I can see why it would in your case - that's awful.

ALY1981 · August 2011

(((((((hugs))))))))

PhillySue · August 2011

I missed all of this too and am catching up so don't know what your post was about. I just can't see why anyone would want to mess with you (or any of you wonderful ladies). (((BIG HUGS)))

ESTH2000 · August 2011

SeaSoul:

So, I apologize for stirring up drama - I think you know this is not my style. I understand we all see this differently, but I wish I wouldn't be chastised for the way I feel.

And this is why you are such an amazing person, mother, friend. You do not have to apologize for your feelings. You have every right to feel upset. I don't know all the details as I just caught a bit of the drama last night. It sounds like some on this board don't think the you should have gotten upset, well that certainly isn't for anyone else to decide. You and only you own your feelings. If others are not affected by the view count, than more power to them. After the whole view count thing, it bothers me that you still have to come on here to defend your feelings.

You are awesome and someone is obviously jealous of your awesomeness!

njdcgirl · August 2011

((HUGS)).

FWIW, I don't think you've stirred up any drama (really ever, but in particular with any of your latest posts on this or any other topic.)

If it is real, then it sucks (and who ever is doing it is lame and stupid IMO.)

Germanwife2b · August 2011

I missed it last night too, but I know it has happened to me many times (the million view thingy). I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and call it a computer glitch, but I know I have some strong opinions about certain topics (although I try hard to be impartial and non-judgmental with others) but I am pretty sure I have rubbed people the wrong way over the years. So, who knows?

Anyway, feel better today!

Temp893722312503334 · August 2011

Seasoul, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to add to the drama by bringing it up this morning. And I certainly didn't mean to or want to make you feel bad!

Mouseygail · August 2011

No matter what I think the origin of the view counts is, I'm really sorry that you are upset. (and extra sorry if you feel like I was "chastising" you! I went back and reread my response and it definitely came out a little harsh. I truly don't get it, but the fact remains that you are upset and if someone is intentionally doing this, they suck!)

Cassian · August 2011

I wrote as well about not understanding why something so lame hurts so many people. Because it is such a lame and weak thing to do. I am sorry if I too made you feel chastised, and I hate that this person has this effect over people by doing something so stupid.

jds0521 · August 2011

perry7285:
i missed all of this so i have no idea what's going on, but just want to send you a hug and let you know that you have my sympathies. it's easier said than done to not get emotional about what happens with our posts.
anyway, whether someone's being an a$$hole or its a technological glitch, it sucks! (((hugs)))

Ditto this, sending hugs your way. FWIW, I think all a person has to do is hit like F11 or something - one of those F buttons to make the post count go up. Clearly, they just have nothing better to do.

And ETA - there are a lot of passive aggressive biiiotches on TB. One time, b/c I posted a link to my giveaway on my birth month board & on SAIF/PAIF, someone reported me to TB Gods b/c I was advertising. I was like advertising what?! I read over the TOS (and I know how to read contracts - it's what I do for a living) & it's not clear that posting links to giveaways (for which I was not gaining in any way - I didn't receive anything free or a side discount, just passing along a cool giveaway to my online "friends") on boards I frequent is considered spam. Skoorb cleared it up for me & I removed 2 of the 3 links, but someone still reported me to Bump Eileen who contacted me about it via email. When i challenged her, asking her to point to me WHERE in the TOS does it say that I was advertising or spamming, which she couldn't. I also told her I just thought it was someone being vindictive & I'd like a response, she never did. That's what I thought. Some people are just a$$hats...sorry they are bothering you.

DavezWife · August 2011

I know how you feel, at least about this. The group has been so kind and generous to me, and eachother. It's too bad a/some BSC TWATWAFFLE feels left out and needs to make her mark. Pretty pathetic. Hugz lady.

DrVWife · August 2011

I missed everything as well...but hugs SeaSoul. I agree with everyone else...no room for people being a$$h0les!

Courted · August 2011

I missed whatever happened, but it does not sound good. From what I got from your post, I can make out what happened and def would have reacted the same way. I am very conscious and try to be aware of those people around DS and I at a playground or in any other public place...there are so many gross sicko pervs out there.

Bella3413 · August 2011

Coming out of Lurking to discuss this... This is my primary board I know people here but have been reduced to lurking beacsue of my work schedule... I do lurk a bit on other boards so after Seasoul posted last night i went around and looked at some of the other boards. Our board is bad but not as bad as the post counts on the Child free board everyone had over 1,200 views and red stars so it has to be someone doing it on purpose. Only I don't think the Girls over there know they are being targeted

qtpa2t · August 2011

It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

SeaSoul · August 2011

qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

Of course I understand that this is going to be the case. But when I post something, it gets 1 immediate response, then literally 3 minutes later there are 400 views, and every time I refresh the screen there are 100 more, I know it's not just people being especially interested in my post, and coming back to recheck. I'm on here often enough to understand the patterns and how long it takes for even the most popular posts to go up in view counts.

But this is what I was saying in my OP above...your response is implying (or perhaps I'm inferring) that I am an idiot. I am not an idiot. I am not quick to react. I am not easily annoyed (e.g. the one-star issue never bothered me in the least).

I do have a problem with this particular phenomenon, and I'm sorry you feel I am being unreasonable.

ESTH2000 · August 2011

qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

What I find amazing is how you cannot see this this not just "Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks." This is clearly someone going out of their way to upset other.

I find it in very poor taste for you to join in this thread to further insult (IMO) a nestie who was obviously hurt from the initial post and than had to come here and explain herself( which she shouldn't have to do)

Perhaps since you explained you aren't on with much frequency, you have missed the point.

And I happen to remember you and read your posts. I have replied to your posts in the past and I am sorry you seem to feel neglected on this board. I try to respond and support as much as possible!

ESTH2000 · August 2011

qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

What I find amazing is how you cannot see this this not just "Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks." This is clearly someone going out of their way to upset other.

I find it in very poor taste for you to join in this thread to further insult (IMO) a nestie who was obviously hurt from the initial post and than had to come here and explain herself( which she shouldn't have to do)

Perhaps since you explained you aren't on with much frequency, you have missed the point.

And I happen to remember you and read your posts. I have replied to your posts in the past and I am sorry you seem to feel neglected on this board. I try to respond and support as much as possible!

ESTH2000 · August 2011

qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

What I find amazing is how you cannot see this this not just "Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks." This is clearly someone going out of their way to upset other.

I find it in very poor taste for you to join in this thread to further insult (IMO) a nestie who was obviously hurt from the initial post and than had to come here and explain herself( which she shouldn't have to do)

Perhaps since you explained you aren't on with much frequency, you have missed the point.

And I happen to remember you and read your posts. I have replied to your posts in the past and I am sorry you seem to feel neglected on this board. I try to respond and support as much as possible!

emmyloustu · August 2011

qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

Sometimes that is the case and that is not the type of post views that anyone is talking about. It is when your view count skyrockets by hundreds of views per minute. One person is sitting there deliberately pressing the f5 key over and over and over with the intent of being aggressive.

If you have never been the target, you couldn't possibly understand. It is a strange and unsettling feeling to know that someone dislikes you or disagrees so strongly with what you have to say that they would take time out of their day to purposefully target you in this way. I would rather the person just call me out and speak their mind, or block me completely instead of stalking posts. It IS upsetting, especially when the subject matter is sensitive or emotional...

Happycouple · August 2011

This is why I remain anonymous on here for the most part....

fallbride110406 · August 2011

SeaSoul:
qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.
Of course I understand that this is going to be the case. But when I post something, it gets 1 immediate response, then literally 3 minutes later there are 400 views, and every time I refresh the screen there are 100 more, I know it's not just people being especially interested in my post, and coming back to recheck. I'm on here often enough to understand the patterns and how long it takes for even the most popular posts to go up in view counts.
But this is what I was saying in my OP above...your response is implying (or perhaps I'm inferring) that I am an idiot. I am not an idiot. I am not quick to react. I am not easily annoyed (e.g. the one-star issue never bothered me in the least).
I do have a problem with this particular phenomenon, and I'm sorry you feel I am being unreasonable.

That first immediate view is when you view the post right after hit "submit." Also, I'm pretty sure some posts get more views than others because the posts are searchable on google. Any common search term is going to equal high post counts, especially if it's something that parents would google out of concern or curiosity.

What I know is that getting all worked up over a ton of views just irritates people and one of those people is probably going through to refresh posts just to irk people even more. Like someone else said, go over and look at the view counts on Single Parents or Special Needs. They're sky high on every single post.

Courted · August 2011

SeaSoul:

qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.

Of course I understand that this is going to be the case. But when I post something, it gets 1 immediate response, then literally 3 minutes later there are 400 views, and every time I refresh the screen there are 100 more, I know it's not just people being especially interested in my post, and coming back to recheck. I'm on here often enough to understand the patterns and how long it takes for even the most popular posts to go up in view counts.

So is it by pushing F5 that someone can gets a million view on a post? I don't see how it is physically possible to click in and out of a post hundreds of times within just seconds. I am not questioning what happened, just curious how someone is able to do this.

SeaSoul · August 2011

fallbride110406:

What I know is that getting all worked up over a ton of views just irritates people

Why?

malloryo85 · August 2011

Just getting caught up, but I wanted to say that you don't need to apologize for anything. You didn't start this, some BSC weirdo did. I'm so sorry that you're being targeted. I hate that this would happen to anyone, but especially the wonderful women on this board.

ESTH2000 · August 2011

SeaSoul:

fallbride110406:

What I know is that getting all worked up over a ton of views just irritates people

Why?

I would also love to know why?

fallbride110406 · August 2011

ESTH2000:
SeaSoul:

fallbride110406:

What I know is that getting all worked up over a ton of views just irritates people

Why?

I would also love to know why?

If I had to guess, in the most basic terms, someone is getting irritated that something they posted on a searchable, public message board is being viewed several hundred times. It's the Internet, that's going to happen. And it's going to bring out trolls.

I don't know why it's surprising or unexpected at all.

SeaSoul · August 2011

fallbride110406:
ESTH2000:
SeaSoul:

fallbride110406:

What I know is that getting all worked up over a ton of views just irritates people

Why?

I would also love to know why?
If I had to guess, in the most basic terms, someone is getting irritated that something they posted on a searchable, public message board is being viewed several hundred times. It's the Internet, that's going to happen. And it's going to bring out trolls.

I don't know why it's surprising or unexpected at all.

It's the rate at which it happens in these instances. It's unsettling. I'm not surprised that my post from last night has 1,000 views at this point. But several hundred over a matter of minutes makes one feel stalked.

laura&dan05 · August 2011

Gosh, I didn't realize it had been going on so long specificlly directed at your posts. I'm really sorry, that is really frustrating and annoying! I wish they would do away with the whole views thing anyway since it's pointless and just seems to be used to annoy people.

epphd · August 2011

Cassian:

I wrote as well about not understanding why something so lame hurts so many people. Because it is such a lame and weak thing to do. I am sorry if I too made you feel chastised, and I hate that this person has this effect over people by doing something so stupid.

Yes I hope you don't think I was chastising you - I am honestly perplexed by people being bothered and was not aware of the context. I do think we all take risks on message boards - myself very much included. We put info out there and strangers react strangely - some get bizarre thrills and some get offended... it's a risk we take. BUT, the reward of being a part of this board and this community, for me at least, makes the risk worth it.

I hope you are feeling better today and that whatever was upsetting you in the original post has been resolved.

qtpa2t · August 2011

SeaSoul:
qtpa2t:
It's amazing to me that anyone has ever noticed that there are post counts... FWIW, it's not likely *one* person. It's everyone. Everyone who reads posts. Everyone who reads to keep up but doesn't have time to post. Everyone who read a post, didn't have time to post at the time but plans to come back later. Everyone who just wanted to keep up with what everyone added to the discussion. Everyone who lurks. These are public message boards. It's bound to happen. And if you're someone who posts with any frequency, then you are going to be recognizable to anyone who reads a lot, whether that person participates actively or not. Me - I'm never on with much frequency, so it's not likely to happen to me. I know this because almost no one even reads my posts, much less responds.
Of course I understand that this is going to be the case. But when I post something, it gets 1 immediate response, then literally 3 minutes later there are 400 views, and every time I refresh the screen there are 100 more, I know it's not just people being especially interested in my post, and coming back to recheck. I'm on here often enough to understand the patterns and how long it takes for even the most popular posts to go up in view counts.
But this is what I was saying in my OP above...your response is implying (or perhaps I'm inferring) that I am an idiot. I am not an idiot. I am not quick to react. I am not easily annoyed (e.g. the one-star issue never bothered me in the least).
I do have a problem with this particular phenomenon, and I'm sorry you feel I am being unreasonable.

Wow. Just. Wow.

If you knew me at all, you would know that I don't imply anything. If I wanted to call you an idiot, I would call you and idiot. I did not. Obviously, you DO get easily annoyed as you completely overreacted to what I said and got your mafia friend to kick me too. For shame.

SeaSoul · August 2011

Thank you all SO much for being so understanding and supportive.

QT - I probably did overreact. I'm not sure who you're referring to as my mafia friend, but I honestly didn't solicit any backup. Everyone responded of their own accord. I'm really sorry for stirring things up. It's been a rough week and I've been especially sensitive.

JillRock96 · August 2011

I'm sorry. I don't think it is a glitch. I do think it is very, very sad, and more than a bit creepy.

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