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Attachment Parenting
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No CIO sleep advice for 11 month old needed
papie
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Hey girls,
it has been a while since I posted here. I just ordered the No Cry Sleep Solution, but it isn't scheduled to arrive before a couple of weeks and I'm kind of desperate, lol.
Sophia is 11 months old. She has never consistently STTN. She used to STTN about once or twice a week, but she hasn't at all in the last month. She goes through phases where she wakes up only once, but right now it is 2-3 times per night and I'm honestly exhausted. We have tried co-sleeping but there isn't enough room for us, especially since my 3yo often comes to our bed around 4-5 am, so nobody sleeps well. I'm not rally interested in side-carring her crib for various reasons. I just want her to sleep in her own bed, and STTN at least every other night or so. She goes to bed between 7:30 and 8, and is up for the day between 6 and 7.
We have a bedtime routine, but she rarely falls asleep in her bed. She usually either nurses to sleep, or we rock her or wear her. We have tried letting her cry a few minutes but she puked in her bed 2-3 times (always within 10 minutes of CIO) and we have decided we aren't comfortable with it.
She takes two naps, between 30 minutes and 2 hours each. Most days she falls asleep on her own for naps, but often we have to rock her or nurse her. I have a inhome babysitter for the summer, but she is starting daycare in a month.
I need tricks that work to make us all sleep better. I don't think she "needs" to nurse every 3 hours during the night anymore, but I'm willing to still nurse her once. She takes a paci, but lately when I try giving it to her at night she screams "NAAAAAAA" and throws it. lol
TIA 
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Re: No CIO sleep advice for 11 month old needed
I had a "puker" after 10 minutes too. Right around a year I read about the Sleep Lady Shuffle and decided to try it. It was a long two-three weeks but it was well worth it. We didn't have any HUGE bouts of crying, just minor fussing. Initially it did take Drew about 70+ minutes to fall asleep on his own. (Me next to crib, not crying...) But I just picked up books from the library and read read read.
Here's the link I used:
https://www.parentsconnect.com/parenting-your-kids/kids-sleeping/good-night-sleep-lady-shuffle.html
Also NCSS only worked for me initially when Drew was younger. Once he was older I couldnt get him to sleep with those techniques because he was past the point of falling asleep on his own.
Currently I put him down at 10:30 in his crib for a nap, he's been in there since (not quite asleep yet but playing!). If you would have told me in January that I'd be able to lay him down in his crib without a major freakout and he'd be playing independently for 20 minutes before taking a 3 hour nap I'd have laughed in your face! It does get better!
OK, so I just read the whole thing. No nursing or picking up at night? Doesn't that make them hysterical? I'm not sure now
Did you go cold turkey or eliminate one feeding at a time?
I didn't cut out nursing at night until 12 mos... per the Jay Gordon method.
https://drjaygordon.com/attachment/sleeppattern.html
So we did Jay Gordon first at a year old... that seriously only took about a week or two. Then I waited a week or so and started the sleep lady shuffle.
I think what really helped was that DH and I sat down and said we were going to stick to the sleep lady shuffle and came up with a family plan. We took turns doing it. As SAHM I got "stuck" with all the naps except for some weekends. So we'd also switch on and off every other night.
Okay I search fuctioned the bump for when I initially did it because I knew I posted about it in someone elses question about it:
https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/49153419.aspx
My reply is in there.
Also we still use a pacifier, so when I did the night weaning I'd put in the paci. Also we co-sleep from about 11:30 on when we go up to bed or when DS gets up. But he does sleep straight through after that.
So sleep lady shuffle worked for us to get him down for naps and initial night time.
If we can't get him down right away after his initial long night time sleep we end up co-sleeping. (A combination of being pregnant and needing my sleep and DH working long hours so we'd rather not fight, plus I don't mind the cuddling from midnight on)
I was really surprised on how well LO did with it. I'm now back in a "sleeping" issue because I've gotten used to just placing him in his crib and him sleeping right away with no fight.... and we're trying to switch him to a twin bed before LO#2 comes in two months.
I need to go back to "fighting" with him and rereading my post from before has helped because although it was work progress was made and it didn't take as long as it had felt.
Good luck!
I loved the No Cry Sleep Solution (and the NCSS for Toddlers.) Our son NEVER slept through the night until he was 3 years old. I kid you not. We nursed through out the night (he weaned on his own when he was 3) but needed me to fall asleep. We never let him CIO. What finally worked (when I didn't want to nurse him to sleep) is to rock him, sing 2 songs, and then lay him in our bed (we have a family bed.) Then I'd lay next to him and pat his back until he fell asleep. He also needed white noise/a running fan/etc to fall asleep. He is still an incredibly light sleeper, but those first couple of years were very trying for us.
Hope your book arrives soon and good luck! Hugs.
He definitely doesn't need nursed at night anymore but it's become more of a comfort for him.
You said he takes 2-30 min to 2 hour naps. Can you have him take his second nap earlier in the day/afternoon for only 30 minutes? I wonder if the issue could be connected to long naps during the day that affect him going to sleep at night. If you keep him up in the evening and later afternoon he might go to sleep more easily.
In a paragraph by Dr. Sears wife in "The Baby Book" she dealt with the issue of her son wanting to be nursed at night for comfort not for need so she told him in a gentle but firm voice that it's time to sleep and he will eat with mommy in the morning when it's time to wake up. Worth a try? Good luck!