Stay at Home Moms

DH is losing his job

I'm kind of new here, a lurker mostly. But I don't know where else to go for support so I thought of ya'll. Anyway, DH is a high level executive and is going to be losing his job in the next few months. It's a heartbreaking situation but we have a lot of savings and I am confident that he'll be able to find something else, we just obviously don't know how long that's going to take or if he'll be able to replace his current income at all. We've been living a comfortable lifestyle for years now and I know our spending needs to get under control.

With a toddler and a new baby on the way, I don't really think me going back to work now is the best option. I have a good resume but have been out of the workforce for a couple of years. I guess I just wondered if any of you have gone through a spouse's job loss, and being SAHM how did you cope? It's more than just the financial part of it, I find this to be emotionally draining and stressful in a way that I never could have imagined. Im trying so hard to be supportive of DH but I don't always know what he wants to hear and sometimes I say the wrong things. 

Being pregnant is leaving me feeling helpless in that I don't feel like I can go get a good-paying job right now. Also, if anyone has ideas for curbing spending, please help because I'm so overwhelmed when I see our monthly bills.  

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Re: DH is losing his job

  • I'm sorry to hear about this.  I can imagine it would be very stressful, though we've not yet experienced it, ourselves.

    As far as curbing spending - Try posting your budget on the Money Matters board on The Nest.  The posters there are very friendly and can give great advice as to where you can possibly make cuts. 

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  • I am curious about the money matters board but a little embarrassed to post what I spend, lol. I am afraid I'll get ripped apart. 

     

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  • Nobody will rip you apart!  Just explain your situation - They're very nice over there.
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  • I'm so sorry.  Best of luck with everything.

    I do have one recomendation though...there's a new Ben Affleck movie called "The Company Men".  You guys should sit down and watch it together.  DH and I just watched it and we both really liked the message that "stuff is just stuff, but your marriage and family are the really important things", ya know?  I lost my job unexpectedly a few months ago, and it's been an interesting ride for us both, adjusting to this new reality.

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  • I haven't been in your situation, but I agree with Money Matters. Post your budget- you may get some harsh criticism from some people but a few of the posters are just very very conservative financially.

    Right now I would stop any unnecessary spending until you figure things out- but I know that is so much easier said than done when your lifestyle is about to change. Will he get a severance? Hopefully between that, unemployment and savings you will be okay.

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    I am sorry you have to experience this. :( Especially with a toddler and one on the way.

    BUT I think it's great that you have a lots in savings and for that, I think you will be okay until your DH gets another job.

    And there's lots of ways to cut spending, I would post over on Money Matters too.

    Good luck!

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    Nobody will rip you apart!  Just explain your situation - They're very nice over there.

    I will say Money Matters is nice and helpful if you are willing to seriously consider their suggestions. If you post an unworkable budget and then come up with umpteen reasons why you can't change any of it, they'll rip you a new one.

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  • Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.
  • First you need to find out how much money you are actually spending compared to what you are currently bringing in.  Use a spreadsheet or mint.com, Suze Orman has an expense tracker on her website too and keep track of every single penny spent.  This will give the both of you a visual of where the majority of the money goes.  It will also give you a visual where you can start curbing your spending.   You need to really get down to the "needs" and "wants" spending and just stick to the bare necessities for a while.   Also be open to relocating since your husband may have to seek employment in another state to find the same level/pay that he has now.  Good luck and be your husband's best support system that he has. 
  • My DH lost his job back in July of 2009.  Lost our house and two cars, etc.  We lived in MN and didn't have much savings...at all really. DH hit the ground running with a job search. Thankfully, he had A LOT of connections in the insurance world and had about three head hunters working for him.  His previous company gave him a nice package that helped out quite a bit.  But it was a very stressful time.  We have two boys and the oldest was starting school soon.

    Thankfully, it only took six months for him to find a job, hence why we live in Madison, WI now.  The company is wonderful and the people are even better!  It was meant to be what happened before.  They are already grooming him to take over the VP spot (long story).  We've lived here now going on two years come December.  Kids go to private school and we are happy.

    DH losing his job in MN was a blessing, is the way we see it.  : )

    Keep the faith and believe just keep encouraging your DH to look for jobs. It wont take long.  I gave myself that role as his cheerleader.  I had to cause we couldn't both be down about it.  I cut back on a lot of our spending and it was ok.  You have to be the strong one, w/o letting them know.   

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    imageMamatoJackson:
    Nobody will rip you apart!  Just explain your situation - They're very nice over there.

    I will say Money Matters is nice and helpful if you are willing to seriously consider their suggestions. If you post an unworkable budget and then come up with umpteen reasons why you can't change any of it, they'll rip you a new one.

    True!!

    If you post your budget and they offer suggestions for cuts that you aren't comfortable with, just take in all the advice that you want and don't say, "Oh, I can't get rid of cable TV 'cause we LOVE cable T.V.," etc. 

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  • Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful responses. I really appreciate it! In a weird way, I'm seeing some of this as a blessing- hoping my husband can find a job that he truly loves, maybe even starting his own thing, a chance to really look at what we are spending, which we never have done before, and also I just have this overwhelming love for my family that is stronger every day because I'm seeing what is really important in life. I know we will get through this, it is just hard to let go of a lot of the things we have been dreaming of and saving for (material things, but it's still hard at first). It's funny because I grew up in VERY humble circumstances. I keep thinking of my mother and how she survived with three of us kids and barely could make ends meet. It is definitely time for my feet to come back down to the ground. 
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  • I had been working full time since I was 16yrs old. When I was 28 and after the birth of our 3rd we decided that we could afford for me to be a sahm... well, 8months after we made that decision, dh was unexpectedly laid off. He was out of a job for over 8months.

    My advice is more along the lines of relationship wise... be understanding if dh gets frustrated with being out of a job. My dh went a little stir crazy being at home and not working anymore. Don't get frustrated back at him, that might only make him feel worse. 

    Let dh have some time alone with the kids, almost like a sahd. My dh was on the computer all day, job searching, studying, etc...  I would ask him to take the kids to the park. Even thought it's not the best circumstances to be at home, he might as well take advantage of it and spend time with the family.

     

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    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.

    GOOD GRIEF...no offense but this is TERRIBLE advice.

    Why would you put your home at risk by borrowing money against it, ESPECIALLY if you know you're already going to be in a tough spot financially??? Wow...

    It's not terrible advice.  A HELOC DOES NOT have to be used... it's there in case it's needed.  We have a HELOC and have never drawn from it, not once.

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    imagermj80:

    imageJenWhite123:
    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.

    GOOD GRIEF...no offense but this is TERRIBLE advice.

    Why would you put your home at risk by borrowing money against it, ESPECIALLY if you know you're already going to be in a tough spot financially??? Wow...

    I would caution strongly against taking out this type of loan without a secure income. 

    Can your DH start looking for a new job now? If he has some time before his current job is lost, it seems like now would be an optimal time to start his search. 

    I mentioned a LINE OF CREDIT - totally different from a LOAN.  We have a line of credit (HELOC) and have never once borrowed against it.   You don't HAVE TO borrow from the HELOC and typically there are no annual fees, no application fees, etc.  It's free and there in case you absolutely have to have it....

  • I would advise picking up a part time job now.  The retail world seems to be hirring right now for back to school/holiday.  The more you can save before he is laid off the better. 
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  • imageJenWhite123:
    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.
    What?! From a purely financial standpoint, this is absolutely terrible advice, especially since she mentioned that they have adequate savings.
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  • imagermj80:

    Try not to think about this as a stressful, negative situation and just a new life change. Here are some things to think about:

    1. You said DH possibly has a few months, which means he has time to start seriously networking and interviewing BEFORE he loses his income.

    2. You have savings built up for an emergency...it stinks to use it, but that's what it's there for! Of course you want to use as little as possible, but you didn't squirrel that money away for nothing.

    3. You have an awesome opportunity to take a look at your lifestyle and cut back, which you probably wouldn't have done unless you were going through this. Start that now and you'll have even more to save before DH loses his income.

    4. Have DH check out the book "48 Days to the Work You Love" by Dan Miller. It's an easy read and very motivating/helpful when you find yourself in a tough spot career wise.

    Good luck!

    This, on the otherhand, is excellent advice. I agree with every bullet point listed.

    OP, I am so sorry that you are finding yourself in this situation. I wish you and your DH the best of luck. You will get through this!
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  • We've never been through this but I just wanted to say that I'm sending positive thoughts your way for a quick and successful job search once he actually is looking.
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  • Thanks again for all the responses. I'm feeling a lot better today. Went through some monthly expenses in detail and discovered some places I can easily cut back right away. Just doing that made me feel empowered and gave me a little sense of control over what's going on. DH seems to be doing ok because they're working out a pretty generous severance. The whole thing is so sad! But I'm just trying to stay in a positive mindset. I hope he can find something that he truly loves. 

    All this is making me view being a SAHM in a new light, what our role is as the support for DH's is very complex. Marriages and families are so complicated, but I feel like there's an added dimension with men who are successful, type A personalities and a job loss.   

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    imageJenWhite123:
    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.
    What?! From a purely financial standpoint, this is absolutely terrible advice, especially since she mentioned that they have adequate savings.

    Why is it terrible advice?  Are you a CFP? You only draw from a HELOC if you need the cash.  Many people have a HELOC for 10, 20 years and NEVER draw against it. 

    I know plenty  of people who THOUGHT they had adequate cash reserves, then it took more than a year to find a job that paid what they were accustomed to making...  EVERYONE should have a HELOC *if* they have the equity in their home to be approved for one......  Many people don't have the equity. 

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    imageJenWhite123:
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    imagermj80:

    imageJenWhite123:
    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.

    GOOD GRIEF...no offense but this is TERRIBLE advice.

    Why would you put your home at risk by borrowing money against it, ESPECIALLY if you know you're already going to be in a tough spot financially??? Wow...

    I would caution strongly against taking out this type of loan without a secure income. 

    Can your DH start looking for a new job now? If he has some time before his current job is lost, it seems like now would be an optimal time to start his search. 

    I mentioned a LINE OF CREDIT - totally different from a LOAN.  We have a line of credit (HELOC) and have never once borrowed against it.   You don't HAVE TO borrow from the HELOC and typically there are no annual fees, no application fees, etc.  It's free and there in case you absolutely have to have it....

    My fault- reading comprehension fail. I still advise against loans in her situation- but definitely not against a credit line. My apologies.  

     

    Thanks!  Most CFP's recommend that EVERYONE have a HELOC, even if they have 12 months or more cash reserves in savings.  I think that the women who are advising against a HELOC have no idea what a HELOC actually is.  Of course, the issue w/ being approved for a HELOC is that (typically) you have to have at least 20% equity in your home, and many people don't have that these days.....

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    imageJenWhite123:
    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.
    What?! From a purely financial standpoint, this is absolutely terrible advice, especially since she mentioned that they have adequate savings.

    Why is it terrible advice?  Are you a CFP? You only draw from a HELOC if you need the cash.  Many people have a HELOC for 10, 20 years and NEVER draw against it. 

    I know plenty  of people who THOUGHT they had adequate cash reserves, then it took more than a year to find a job that paid what they were accustomed to making...  EVERYONE should have a HELOC *if* they have the equity in their home to be approved for one......  Many people don't have the equity. 

    I'm not a CFP, but I've worked in finance for years and started working toward my CFP certification before becoming a SAHM. I don't really see how that is relevant...

    I fully understand what a HELOC is vs. a home equity loan. For starters, it's terrible advice because, for many people, it becomes so easy to borrow from when in a tough situation when the better option would be to scale back their lifestyle or take a tough look at their budget instead. Whether a HELOC is appropriate for someone who is losing their job requires more than a 30 second view of their finances on the internet. Telling someone that they must "apply NOW" is simply unwise.

    Secondly, I would never recommend that someone who is unemployed and, therefore, may potentially default on repayment of the HELOC if they draw from it, borrow from equity they have in their home. If default occurs, they could lose their house. In this economy, where it could take years, yes, years, to find a job, this becomes extremely possible. It would be much wiser in many cases, as an absolute last ditch, all-out emergency situation, to borrow from a credit card instead. Yes, the rate is oftentimes much higher. However, they can't take your home if you find yourself in a Catch-22 situation where you are unable to repay the debt and unable to find a job.

    I highly disagree that everyone who has equity in their home SHOULD have a HELOC.

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    imagescatteredtrees:
    imageJenWhite123:
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    imagermj80:

    imageJenWhite123:
    Advice -- if you don't have one, go ahead ASAP and apply for a home equity line of credit - you may need they money and you won't be able to qualify for one after DH loses his job.  Do it NOW.  We have a $25K line of credit and I wish we had applied for the max available to us.  You never know when you might need emergency cash.

    GOOD GRIEF...no offense but this is TERRIBLE advice.

    Why would you put your home at risk by borrowing money against it, ESPECIALLY if you know you're already going to be in a tough spot financially??? Wow...

    I would caution strongly against taking out this type of loan without a secure income. 

    Can your DH start looking for a new job now? If he has some time before his current job is lost, it seems like now would be an optimal time to start his search. 

    I mentioned a LINE OF CREDIT - totally different from a LOAN.  We have a line of credit (HELOC) and have never once borrowed against it.   You don't HAVE TO borrow from the HELOC and typically there are no annual fees, no application fees, etc.  It's free and there in case you absolutely have to have it....

    My fault- reading comprehension fail. I still advise against loans in her situation- but definitely not against a credit line. My apologies.  

     

    Thanks!  Most CFP's recommend that EVERYONE have a HELOC, even if they have 12 months or more cash reserves in savings.  I think that the women who are advising against a HELOC have no idea what a HELOC actually is.  Of course, the issue w/ being approved for a HELOC is that (typically) you have to have at least 20% equity in your home, and many people don't have that these days.....

    Your first point - not necessarily true, especially given the nature of today's economy.

    Your second point - we're not idiots. Please don't make assumptions about our level of education on the subject Confused

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  • Since I didn't address this earlier- We DO have a HELOC, it's equal to about 3/4 of DH's salary. Hopefully we won't have to use it for living expenses while he's out of a job but I will say that it does feel reassuring to know that it's there. Fortunately we have other options- his severance, our savings, etc that will hopefully carry us through this time. 
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