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Irisheyes1247
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"No Kids Allowed" movement?
Irisheyes1247
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https://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/the-no-kids-allowed-movement-is-spreading-2516110/
(sorry if that isn't clicky, you would think after being on this site for 3 years I would have these things figured out)
Has anyone read anything about this? Opinions?
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Re: "No Kids Allowed" movement?
First I've heard of it and it's nuts. It's hard enough to work around kid's schedules to go places and now we would have to add "kid hours" in? What about "no elderly" shopping hours? I have given serious thought to how there should be a "over 65" line at every checkout. They are just as irritating as bad kids but with a sense of entitlement to go with it.Or how about people with their pets? I have seen people in stores or banks with their dogs in those crate/purses. So you can bring your dog... but I can't bring my babies?
It's not fair to make generalizations that all kids will misbehave. My kids literally do not make a peep at the grocery store. (yet... knock on wood, lol) Like a pp said- I understand adults only resorts or keeping them out of very fancy restaurants. And yes, We, as parents, need to use discretion. If your kids are being loud/misbehaving... it's time to leave. I can't see this happening anytime soon.
Honestly, I think it is ridiculous. I can understand upscale restaurants since young kids really shouldn?t be there anyways, but movie theaters having ?baby days? and grocery stores having child hours and banning kids from outdoor areas this is all crazy and really irks me. Kids are human beings and a part of life.
You said what I wanted too, but much better!
I think it's kind of ridiculous that people don't have enough common sense to not take their 2 year old to a fine dining restaurant on a Saturday night. I don't mind kids in nice places at certain times... we've taken Evan to fancier places on a Sunday at 5 for dinner, or brunch/lunch... but I wouldn't take him on a Friday night at 8 o'clock.
I think it's stupid that grocery stores would ban kids.... going grocery shopping is one of E's favorite things! And there are always temper-tantrum throwing children... but it's just part of life!
I will admit, I get annoyed if DH and I are out on a date-night, and there are mis-behaving kids at a nice restaurant. Last time we went out (to a very non-kid friendly place, IMO... Toro on Elmwood) and our reservation was at 8. There was a table near-by w/ a tiny baby (fine, it was sleeping in the carseat) and an extremely loud, bratty 4 year old girl who was running all over the place. It totally spoiled the atmosphere of the place. Normally I wouldn't hesitate to ask to be seated far away from kids (we've done it in the past), but this restaurant is small... plus the girl was running all over the place. She came up to our table and climbed right onto an empty chair!
I know Evan is not the best at sitting still at restaurants right now... so we mainly go to "fast food" type places... like Panera or Ted's. If we do go to a sit down place, it's a family friendly one... like Dave & Busters, Friendly's, TGI Fridays etc.
Yea I definitely understand having an adults-only resort or even saying at a fancy restaurant that children under a certain age are not allowed. Firstly, they probably shouldn't be there and secondly, if you want to limit your clientele that that is up to you. If I have gone to the trouble of getting a sitter and having a date night with DH, I certainly don't want to be seated at the table next to Tommy Tantrum.
But saying my kid can't go to a pool, or a park, or the grocery store seems a little bit ridiculous to me. I think there are times when parents don't use common sense at when to remove a child from a situation, or they instead just ignore the child. Now, this is coming from someone with a wee kid and not a toddler throwing tantrums, but I can't imagine having my kid running all over a restaurant and pitching a fit, and just staying there. Yes, babies cry and I think people should be a little more understanding about that. But also, I think parents need to be a little more proactive - there are the parents out there that let their kids get away with being a holy terror that make it tough for the rest of the parents, who wouldn't accept that behavior.
I have seen discussions about this in the past. I think it is discrimination and cannot believe legal issues haven't been brought about yet. I get it, I really do get it. DH and I go out by ourselves about once every three months, last time we went to a nice hibachi restaurant and had to listen to a baby crying and a toddler fussing the entire time. And it annoyed me to no end because I wanted a nice, quiet child free evening. But I wouldn't go as far as to ban the kids. I would much rather see blue tooth headsets banned in public places. I hate when people are stading/sitting there having invisable conversations, usually loudly. I am sure I am not the only one to have someone star right at me and start a convo on a blue tooth and think they are talking to me.
But where does the child banning end? If I need milk, I should have the right to go into the grocery store with my kids at any time to pick it up. I really don't think age discrimination is much different than any other. If we ban kids, why can't we ban fat people from restaurants because we don't want to see them eat, or ban handicap people from the fair because they slow down the crowds.
I also don't think kids are any worse than they used to be. I think 30-50 yrs ago, parents of misbahaved children kept them home more. And kids with disabilities and disorders were put into care facilities. But now, parents are caring for these children in their homes and including them in every day activities. Parents of kids with even milder forms of autism used to be advised to put them in a treatment facility and told that their child would never be able to function in society, and because of being institutionalized they never could. We know know most of these kids can become great members of the community but they need exposure.
m/c 1/2/08 and 3/12/08
Eve Amelia- Born 2/24/09. 6lb 9.9oz
Natalie Ruth - Born 6/13/11 7lb 6.6oz
what i don't understand is parents who want to take their children to high end places? I don't think you need to ban kids but come on- use some common sense...I'm a parent and I dont want your screaming kid when I'm having a nice dinner with my husband
I totally like the idea of having a kiddie corral at the grocery store as long as its optional...
There are already adult only options and so what if they expand- I'm sure some enterprising businesses will see the value in having kid-friendly hours or options...
I think people overall are less tolerant of each other- people without kids think they shouldn't have kids anywhere and people with kids think everyone should love their little monster and deal no matter how bad their kid is behaving...people should just be a little more aware about their surroundings and be courteous to others around them...
Very, very well said! I totally agree
I think there is a time and place for everything. I don't think kids belong in a fancy restaurant at date night times. I also don't think kids should be banned from everything. When I read articles like this it makes me so nervous for our flight. At one point I just thought I will never see these people again so what do I care. But I really don't want people giving me dirty looks.
I think adult only resorts are perfectly fine but not grocery stores or airlines.