TTC After a Loss

?????--Ladies In Waiting Check In--?????

This is a group designed for all the ladies in the various stages of waiting after a loss: waiting to miscarry, waiting for AF to arrive, waiting to TTC again, and waiting for a BFP.   Since this process is such a true test in patience, it is nice to have the support and friendship of other women going through similar experiences and emotions. 

Check in every Tuesday and Thursday.

New members: Post an introduction and your current TTC status and I will add you to the list! Welcome :-)

Current members: Post your updates, link to your chart, upcoming appointments, prayer requests, and if you get a BFP, please feel free to post here (along with your EDD). 

There will be a question, a place for prayer request, and an inspirational verse.  I look forward to getting to know you.

 

To keep track of all your favorite Ladies In Waiting visit the Official Group Website!

 

(My faith has played an integral part of this journey. I truly believe in the power of prayer and keeping God at the forefront of this process, so if you have any questions or want to talk please don't hesitate).

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I hope you all have a wonderful July 4th holiday. And for those of you in Canada and the rest of the world, I hope you have a wonderful weekend too.  

Happy anniversary to msc233 who is also new to the group too and also welcoming jsunflower,  llsoule79, soontobemrsdts I am so sorry for your losses ladies. I wish that you didn?t have to be here, but I look forward to getting to know you and I hope your time on these boards is simple and sweet and that you are able to hold your take home baby in your arms very soon!

Hugs and love to Carolee on your recent losses. I am so very sorry. It breaks my heart to see you back here.  I hope that your first IVF goes well. Keep us updated.

More hugs to those of you who also started AF. I am so sorry she crashed the party. I hope she stays away for the next nine months.

Yay for AshB62 on setting a date and timeline. I know how much that makes a difference.  Three cheers for MrsHDM who Oed on her own?that awesome news! I know how stressful it is when your body is not doing what it should be doing so that is great indeed. Also cheers to jkfranklin-I thoroughly enjoyed moving your name to the TTC side of the list!

Foxxy I am glad to hear that everything is going well with your diet as you approach your TTA deadline. I am sure there must be some sort of cheese alternative that would be ok?! That would be tough. I know cheese composes about 80% of my diet LOL.

2wwers to watch: MrsHDM, baileyd1, Zilly13, BlondeBride82, and  LottaLattes, GL ladies and keep us updated!

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Request for memorial pictures: If you have any pictures/ultrasounds to share then please post them and I will add them to the Ladies In Waiting Photo Photo Gallery.  It can even be something that reminds you of your LO (flower, poem, jewelry etc).

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Question of the day: What do you love most about the country you live in?  PIP and/or describe it.

Inspirational Verse:  ?I love the LORD, for he heard my voice; he heard my cry for mercy. Because he turned his ear to me, I will call on him as long as I live.? Psalm 116

 

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Re: ?????--Ladies In Waiting Check In--?????

  • I'm still waiting to test. I am 8 dpo today and I am dying to POAS. I promised myself I wouldn't do that until AF is late, but Saturday (10 dpo) is calling my name!

     

    QOTD: I love the U.S. because we have beaches, mountains, desert and snow covered destinations all year long. You can have any type of vacation you want any time!

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  • Still waiting to hear back from the doctor with my bloodwork results. I hate waiting. He said a couple of weeks and now it's been 2. Call me already! I would love to know how much longer we need to TTA but alas, I must be patient.

    QOTD: I love Canada because it is beautiful and we have great health care. I have used it a lot this past year and haven't had to pay for anything out of pocket. Smile

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  • I will be waiting for AF to end for probably the next week and then I will be waiting to O... 

    What do you love most about the country you live in?  PIP and/or describe it. 

    I LOVE freedom!  And the women and men who fight for our country.  I cry every 4th of July when they put off fireworks and play "I am proud to be an American."

     Enjoy your holiday, ladies!

     Danielle

  • I'm 9 DPO.. I was debating about testing tomorrow morning so I would know what I can/can't participate in over the holiday weekend, but have decided to wait. My LP is usually 15 days, so I will probably either wait until my test date or maybe test Mon or Tues. At this point, I have ZERO symptoms, so I'm not feeling too hopeful. My BFP cycle my boobs hurt so bad by 7 DPO... I keep pushing on them hoping they'll hurt, but no dice. Either way, I'm trying to keep my attitude in check and be thankful that I actually O'd on my own.

     QOTD: I know it's cliche, but I am so thankful for our freedom. I can't imagine living in the oppression of some countries. My faith is very important to me, and I'm so thankful that I can worship out in the open and not have to fear for my life. 

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  • Waiting to O

    QOTD: Mountains, beaches and beautiful sunsets. Of course having the freedom to enjoy those things is most important though. 

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  • I am on CD3 so I guess I am waiting to O. I have an appt w/ a fertility specialist on Wed July 6 so prayers that I like the Dr and he has comforting insight are welcome.

    I love being from the USA for the free enterprise, capitalism & democracy. we are the luckiest ducks!


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  • I love all the natural beauty and open space. I love that we have a varied climate and so many breathtaking places to visit. 

    My favorite places that are close by me are Yosemite

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    I also think that all the agriculture is gorgeous too. I love the smell of orange blossoms. 

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  • CD2 so I'm waiting for AF to end, then waiting to O. QOTD: I love the diversity of the USA. All varieties of people, cultures, food, and land. Also love our freedoms.
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  • I'm here... waiting for AF (due on Sunday) as every stick I've peed on over the last few days is a BFN.  

     

    QOTD: Cliche (again) but the freedom to live our lives how we want to.  

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  • I'm pretty sure I'm O'ing today! So, I guess after that I'll be waiting on my BFP Smile

    QOTD: The thing I love most about the USA is how different each state is. We've got the desert, mountains, shores, tropics, snow, greenery, cities, and country land? We?ve got a whole world in one country!

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    BFP #3 10/27/11 Please stick, LO!! 2/6/12 It's a Girl! Alexis Grace born 6/29/12
    BFP#4 4/27/14 Stick, stick, stick!! 8/11/14 It's a Boy! Evan Wesley born 1/8/15
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  • See "VENTASTIC" post below.  Waiting for BFP or AF.

     

    QOTD : I enjoy the freedom the US gives me.  I also love the landscape.  Pretty amazing country.

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  • I'm in the 2ww. I'm not very optimistic but I'm still hopeful. QOTD: 4th of July is my favorite holiday. I love the independence we have!
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  • I don't want to jinx myself but I think that the spotting from my second D&C has finally stopped. Not that it changes much, I am still impatiently waiting for AF, but it feels like a step forward. 

    QOTH: I have done a fair amount of traveling and never have I been somewhere more beautiful than where I grew up. 

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  • Still waiting on AF but I have sore bbs so I'm hopeful that she is coming soon! 

    Hmm...I like that we have freedom! And that the beach and mountains are only a short drive away :) 

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  • Hi Ladies! I am on CD3, so I am waiting for AF to leave so I can ovulate and start this crazy ride all over again.

    QOTD: I love Canada because it is so beautiful and so diverse.

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  • Waiting for hgc to drop...was at 26 last Friday. Hopefully this Friday will be ZERO!  It's been going down pretty quickly, but I'm ready to be done with this whole process so AF can come.

    QOTD: I love living in the US because of all the natural beauty that is here. There is a national or state park within driving distance, no matter where you are in the country. I also love that I can go wherever I want, do whatever I want (within reason Angel) and wear whatever I want. This is such a wonderful country and I'm proud to be an American!

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  • I'm waiting to O. I should be fertile/ovulating right about now, but my temps have been all over the place this month and all my OPKs are negative. It's really getting me done because I feel like maybe I've missed the date I O'd this month.

    QOTD: I love all the different climates our country has. Deserts, mountains, beaches, etc. You can go anywhere in our country and experience everything.

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  • imagebaileyd1:

    I'm still waiting to test. I am 8 dpo today and I am dying to POAS. I promised myself I wouldn't do that until AF is late, but Saturday (10 dpo) is calling my name!

     

    Me too!!!  Gave DH my FSA spending card so I won't buy any until Monday.

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  • I'd like to join in! My D&C was June 3rd. My doctor said we could TTC after one cycle so I'm just waiting for AF! My husband's doctor told him to start taking Clomid again so he is ready to start trying too.

    QOTD: As others have said, I love the freedoms we have in this country. I love that we can speak our minds without fear of repercussion. Your inspirational verse reminds me that, while I am not very religious myself, I love that we have freedom of religion. I love that women have rights. I love that this is a diverse country. There is a lot to love!

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    I'm waiting to O.  Should still be another week or so.  I ordered my OPKs on CD1 and they are here already and waiting.  Hopefully I'll have better luck this month!

    QOTD: I love that we can do what we want, when we want to do it. 

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  • I am still waiting for AF...I'm thinking she might be on her way...just in time for my vacation next week.  But that means I'm finally back in the game in July!! 

    QOTD:  Perfect question right before July 4th.  I love FREEDOM!  I know things aren't perfect in our country, but I go to bed every night and wake up every morning knowing that I have the freedom to do what I choose, believe what I want, and make my own choices to better my life.  God Bless the U.S.A!!

    I will miss check-in next week, so I hope all of you have a great week!!

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  • I don't know where I stand. I am pretty sure that I am o'ing sometime in the next few days but we are not exactly trying so I don't know what is going to happen this cycle. I really do however like not stressing about this. After the summer we might really start trying again.
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    BFP #3 4/19/13 Beta1- 106 Beta2- 524 Beta3- 3500 EDD 12/22/13 LO born 12/31/13

  • I am waiting for AF to leave, after this CP, I can't wait, the cramping has been horrible!! and tomorrow is Canada Day and I"m going to have a few drinks...maybe more than a few.

    QOTD: I am very proud to be Canadian for many reasons, the freedom, the healthcare, the beautiful place that I call home! I love that you can drive across Canada and see everything, the mountains, the ocean, the wildlife.  I have been across Canada allot, luckily i have family throughout the country so I always have a place to stay.

    This is the Pinware River in Labrador, Canada, it is just about a 5 minute drive up the road from my nan. 

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    My bloodwork on Monday came back that I did not O since my m/c.  So I am going to have to start provera and wait for Aunt Flo.  I am not starting Provera till I get back from the mountains because it makes me PMS like crazy and I don't want to be like that celebrating our anniversary.

    Question of the day: What do you love most about the country you live in?

    I love the fact that America is a place where people come to start over and be free.  My family was decimated by the Holocaust.  They came to America to escape and start over.

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  • I am waiting to O, it should be in the few days or so. DH and I start our 12 days off of work tomorrow and we are leaving for Scotland tomorrow evening. He has to leave for China a few days after we get back, so it will be nice spending time together.

     QOTD: I love the pure amount of freedom we have in this country. I may not agree with how folks utilize this freedom, but I do that we have it!

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  • I just had blood work and my HCG is now at 372. Im sooo ready to be at 0 so we can start trying again. Hopefully Im thinking 2 more weeks and Im there?:)

     

    I love the USA for its beauty and freedom:)

    Hope you all have a wonderful holiday weekend.

  • I'm late to the check in...stupid work kept me from bumping!

     I'm still waiting to O - started OPKs 2 days ago and the lines are super pale.  I'm thinking it will be at least a week until 1 O b/c my cycles are usually 35 days or so.

    QOTD:  I love being Canadian because of our diversity of cultures, landscapes and opinions and the freedom to hold whatever diverse opinion you feel like holding.  I love that where I live it's so flat that you can see for miles (or kilometers, to be Canadian) but that if you drive 10 hours you're surrounded by majestic mountains.  The free healthcare is also nice...


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  • I don't know when/if I Ovulated but I'm CD30 so I'm thinking I'm in the 2ww. My last cycle was 40 days so I'm going to try to wait another week to test.
  • I haven't checked in for a while so I figure it is time for an update! As of 6/20 I am officially able to TTC again, which is very excited and I have started using OPK's and temping. My only worry is that lately I have been getting a lot of calls for job interviews and am torn whether or not to wait bc of a potential offer or to just try and see what happens!? Ugh so frustrating. Anyway I know that no matter what happens I should end up with something good...I hope.
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  • Hey everyone,

    Well it looks like AF arrived! Seems so strange to be happy about that though, lol. I know now why my emotions have been so up & down this week. Now I'm just waiting to TTC. My OB wants us to wait until early September. Just 2 more months! I can make it!

    QOTD: Well what I love most about the country I'm in now is it is where I went to college and met my husband.

    Take care!

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  • Hi All -- Well I was hoping for CH's today and to be on 3dpo (which I still think I am) but none for me.  I had to put in fake temps for the next 2 days to get them for Mon. so we'll see.  I think it was the low temp Wed. (I woke up cold)   Keeping my hopes positive for this cycle.  

    QOTD:  I love living here.  We have such freedom an there are so many beautiful things to visit and see AND do. 

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  • Still waiting for good ol' AF, 2.5 weeks after my D&C. I know it's still early but I swear she is inching towards me with some fun cramps!

    I love our freedom, like others have mentioned, and especially on the Fourth of July--I get really obsessed with fireworks.

    Haven't done a PIP in years, since The Knot but let me try it out...

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  • Still just waitin' around, I'm not going to POAS until Wednesday.  FF keeps bumping my O date all around, but that'd be the test date based on when *I* think I O'd.

    I love most about the country that I live in is the size of it, in that there is a ton of diversity in types of places to live (hot, dry, mountainous, etc.)  It's also neat that there are so many places to explore and learn about!

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  • Hi all! This group caught my attention and it seemed like a nice group that I could share my thoughts and feelings with. I am 28 and been TTC since Sept 09. I've known even before TTC that I had PCOS. We tried a few cycles naturally with no luck. I went through a few rounds of being on metformin and then began seeing my RE in March '10. We went through a few rounds of Clomid, no luck. I had an IUI in then in June that was ectopic had to wait 3 months for the methotraxate to get out of my system then another IUI in Oct with another ectopic. Waited again then had my first IVF in April this year which resulted in a chemical pregnancy. I just had my second IVF with 2 frozen embies last Wednesday (they were 6d transfers). My beta is on 7/5 and the 2WW is killing me. Just soo tired of thinking about it ALL the time, even to the point where I'm having trouble sleeping at nite because I can't turn my brain off, trying to stay busy and praying a ton! Just wanted to introduce myself to everyone and say I'm looking forward to being a part of what seems like a great, supporting group!
  • I'm waiting for AF to show...I have to have one cycle before IVF, so please, please, please let the witch show up on her own without requiring provera.

    QOTD: I love that we have oceans, mountains, deserts, plains, forests, and everything inbetween.  The USA is beautiful!

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  • I'm on 8 dpo and waiting to test.

    QOTD: I'm in the US. I've lived within a 40 mile radius almost all of my life so this is based off of the people where I live. My favorite thing about the US is the people and the values they have (pro marriage, pro God, pro freedom)

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  • I am a newbie, and I am TTC after a chemical pregnancy. I really like this board so far, and while it sucks to have be in it, it's nice to read about women going through similar things as I am.

    I'm currently on CD 6 and waiting to O. I am trying to remain positive and hopeful this cycle, but I am a little nervous. It's our 12th cycle ttc, and I know a lot of women hate hearing this, but knowing that I can at least conceive really is helping me stress less. I'm just keeping my fingers and toes crossed for a sticky baby!

    QOTD: My favorite thing about the USA is my home state. I live in Maine and I love summers by the rocky coasts, autumns with the pretty leaves, summers that aren't too hot, and I love having white Christmases!

     

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  •    Well, my hCG levels are now down to 4!!!  We are still TTA though, at least until after my appointment with my new doctor, SO excited!  I go to see her July 20- I actually just signed my medical information release today!

       QOTD:  I love our soldiers!  I have many friends who have family in the service or who have lost loved ones and I am eternally grateful for everything they do! 


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