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No Resale of Cribs
Have y'all seen this? It says that any crib that has not been tested under the new guidelines (even non-dropside cribs) are banned from being resold. Huh.
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Re: No Resale of Cribs
I think that's the article that someone posted when she asked about dropside cribs. I'm pretty sure none of us read the article. I saw another link to an LA times article about it.
sucks.
here's the LA times link
https://www.latimes.com/health/sc-nw-new-crib-standards-20110627,0,593303.story
looks like you can't even sell stuff on craigslist or even a garage sale :
I'm thinking when we are ready to sell our crib, I will list it as a "toddler bed with all the pieces".
Our crib (fixed side) was new in 2009 and is perfectly functional and safe.
This ban goes too far, way too far IMO.
never mind, I just googled and don't think it would change. They were accepting unsafe ones already. D'oh
I totally agree. This part especially bothers me: "As a result, federal regulators recommend that families that can afford to do so buy new cribs and destroy their old ones." Really? So I should destroy a perfectly good, well made crib that could go to a baby who wouldn't have a crib at all otherwise? Ridic.
(read it. you know you want to.)
anderson . september 2008
vivian . february 2010
mabel . august 2012
No kidding. We got a kit from our crib's manufacturer and used it to fix our drop-side crib. We used it successfully with the fix with Alex and had no issues. We then resold it. It is perfectly safe and perfectly fine for use with another baby.
I do not mean to discount the injuries or deaths that have occurred as a result of a few drop side cribs, but this is ridiculous. Far more lives could be saved by forcing parents to rear-face carseats until age 2 than by banning drop side cribs. Are carseats even banned for resale? I know they can be sold at garage sales, and I know there are people willing to buy them - I had a spare carseat sitting in our garage during a neighborhood garage sale. It wasn't for sale, but I had 10 people offer to buy it from me.
I find it particularly obnoxious that there are charity organizations trying to give pack and plays to families who wouldn't otherwise have a safe place for their baby to sleep, and all of these cribs are supposed to be destroyed.
Meredith, 6-1-06 and Alex, 11-5-09
yeah, this was what i was talking about in my other post about new crib rules making the sale/re-sale of dropside cribs illegal. i knew carseats expire after a few years due to the plastic breaking down - thankfully, i have a 1 year old niece, and we're getting her infant car seat and base since it still has 4 more years before it expires.
maybe i'm just not that paranoid yet being a FT mom, but if my nieces and nephews haven't had any problems with their gear and it's well taken care of, i don't understand why it all has to be destroyed.
From the AAS article FAQs: (emphasis mine)
Q: My crib was expensive, and I want to get some money for it. Why can?t I sell it?
A: Unless your crib meets the new federal crib standard, which is unlikely unless you bought it in recent weeks, it?s illegal to sell it or even to donate it.
Q: I bought a crib two weeks ago and now realize it doesn?t meet the new rules. What can I do?
A: Unfortunately, retailers were allowed to sell off their old inventory until Tuesday. Check your store?s return policy to see whether they?ll take it back.
Q: I want to throw out my old crib but am worried somebody may take it. What should I do?
A: Take your old crib apart and throw it out in pieces ? one side one week, one side another week ? so that nobody can rebuild it from the parts left on the curb or in the trash bin.
We bought our drop-side used. It's all metal hardware and I am very confident in how we put it together--very sturdy.
I don't think we would have been able to get a crib I really liked if it weren't for the lowered price. I agree that the ban on re-sales is too much.
I agree with what everyone has been saying.
What bothers me most is sort of like with the FDA when they pull certain drugs off the market. If they allowed something they consider that unsafe to be sold for that long, how can we trust them that these new manufacturing guidelines are any better?
This is not even comparable to drug manufacturing.
Much of the concern is in assembly of the product and in "patches" of worn parts. Drop-side cribs are safe when they are assembled correctly, have the appropriate hardware (i.e. metal fixtures and not plastic), and are inspected regularly for wear and tear.
Keep in mind there were 46 deaths in nine YEARS attributed to drop-side crib malfunctions.
"In addition to the 32 deaths the CPSC staff associated with the drop-side detachments, CPSC has received an additional 14 reports of infant fatalities due to entrapment in cribs that could be related to a drop side. The information obtained was insufficient for staff to conclusively determine whether or not the drop side was involved. Of the 32 deaths that were analyzed, some occurred in cribs where the drop side detached without caregivers noticing the detachment, while some other deaths occurred after a consumer tried to repair the detached drop side, but the repair ultimately failed."
https://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10225.html
It's not apples to apples, but it's not apples to oranges either.
It's not like these cribs weren't regulated before. A few weeks ago, my 6month old, non-drop side crib was perfectly safe, but now I need to destroy it and throw it away piece by piece?
I think this whole thing is disgusting. 46 deaths are tragic, but I agree with pp that this won't prevent more deaths than it could potentially cause. Instead of wasting millions of dollars of cribs, why not continue the campain to educate people about how important a safe sleeping enviroment is!
This just feels like an upper-class, cover my ass type of law.
I can't tell if you're trying to downplay or highlight the number of deaths based on your post. Are you saying "only 46 deaths" or "OMG 46 babies died!" ?
My comparison was one of safety and trust. Many people don't trust the FDA because they feel they wait too long to take action, people get hurt or die, and then they do too little to stop it from happening again. The CPSC probably realizes this is long overdue as recalls have been happening frequently on these cribs with lots of parts sent out to repair. Despite mass media, many people never hear of recalls at all, let alone get a replacement part. There was a nestie recently who was looking for Hylands Teething Tablets. Imagine how many of those are still in houses where the parents have no idea they were recalled. KWIM? How many parents don't know drop sides can be an issue at all?
If the repair ultimately failed, I feel like pulling all the cribs from resale is a good idea. Because sometimes people can't guage safety in furniture well enough and will make a poor choice that will ultimately haunt them for the rest of their life. Anything mass produced and mostly glued together for the lowest dollar isn't going to last forever.
OK, that's what I thought!! I just wanted to make sure!
I do think, however, that drop-side cribs can be safe if manufacturers wanted to make them so. But that would cost them money. And money they spend on making existing products safer eats into their bottom line, which makes them less likely to want to make safer products that they can't necessarily make a bigger profit from. Drop-sides = death trap in the minds of consumers, so even if they were safe drop-side cribs, no one will buy them now. So it behooves baby furniture manufacturers to scrap drop-sides all together.
Instead they create a product that meets these tougher regulation standards and is marketed as the "safest thing for your Little Precious" which they can sell for a lot more money, cashing in on parental fears.
So in that way, I can see how they might be compared to Big Pharma.