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Re's Advice or Stick to my guns?

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We've been waiting to talk with our RE since our failed IVF cycle. She finally called, and of course I missed it, so she called my husband instead. While fantastic, he's not as up on all the latest as I am. He told her we wanted to do a fresh cycle, and she was pushing to go with the frozen embryo we have left. She said the success rates are basically the same.

While I understand it's easier on the body, it's almost as expensive to do a FET since we have no insurance for that, and we do for a fresh cycle. Plus I just feel like I want to give a fresh cycle another chance. What if our embryo doesn't thaw? She's willing to do it, but I feel strange going against her professional opinion. We have a WTF on the tenth, but I'm already on BCPs so the next step has to be decided now. Just wondering WW3T do?

(PS: She doesn't want to chage my protocol despite the 5 eggs from 12 follicles debacle and 4 of them being 13mm and 1 32 at trigger. This seems weird to me.)

Me (32) DH (30)

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Re: Re's Advice or Stick to my guns?

  • katib77katib77 member
    Wait, you're saying you are OOP for FET but some insurance coverage for fresh? Then yes I would def. stick to your guns and do fresh if you feel your body can handle another ER cycle.  Good luck! 

    TTC since July 2009. Dx MFI & LPD. 
    IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
    IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
    IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
    IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
    BFP! Beta 1:104 @ 10dp6dt, Beta 2:178 @ 12dp6dt,  beta 3:366 @ 14dp6dt
    Saw heartbeat twice before missed M/C at 8w3d on 12/27/13, missing my little angel boy
    JUNE 2014 IVF#2;  5R, 2M, 1F Three day transfer 6/7.  Beta 6/18 - BFN
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  • STL34STL34 member

    Since you have the insurance coverage for fresh IVF, I would probably stick to your guns and do that first.  It may be harder on your body, but if it didn't work, you may have more than one frostie to try thawing for an FET.  Besides, if it does work (which I really hope it does), you could use the frosties later for siblings.

    I would definitely ask her why she doesn't want to change up your protocol when you had so many issues with follicle size and number of eggs retrieved.  I think I would want to at least have something tweaked!  Good luck, hon!

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    Dx: DOR, Endo, APA+ (really high beta 2 glycoprotein antibody and high everything else tested), heterozygous MTHFR mutation, positive for lupus anticoagulant, high FSH, low AMH and both tubes blocked (per HSG on 3/8/11)

    IVF #1 - long lupron (with HGH, intralipids, lovenox and BA); 4 retrieved, 3 fertilized; ET 2 blasts and 1 frozen = BFN

    IVF #2 - a version of antagonist with EPP (with HGH, intralipids, lovenox and BA); 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized, 2 blasts and 1 frozen blast transferred on day 5 = BFN.

    IVF #3 April was postponed to May, May was canceled. June/July was canceled. Had a cyst aspiration and then began IVF #3 in August. ER on 8/22; ET on 8/24 with AH. +HPT on 9/5. Beta #1 (11dpo) = 3; Beta #2 (15dpo) = 29; Beta #3 (17dpo) = 60; Beta #4 (19 dpo) = 118. Heartbeat at 6 weeks 6 days =132.  Lil is here!

    TTC#2:  Trigger + TI = BFN; Clomid + Trigger + IUI = BFN.

    IVF #4:  BCP + MDLF + Lovenox = 7R, 1F = Transferred 1 6-cell embryo on day 3 = BFN

    IVF #5:  MDLF + Lovenox = 4R, 1F = Transferred 1 10-cell compacting embryo on day 3 = BFN

    IVF #6:  (New RE):  Long Antagonist November 2014 (transferred two 8 cell grade 1 embryos and froze one blast) = BFN

    FET#1:  BFN

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  • meganfauermeganfauer member

    imagekatib77:
    Wait, you're saying you are OOP for FET but some insurance coverage for fresh? Then yes I would def. stick to your guns and do fresh if you feel your body can handle another ER cycle.  Good luck! 

     

    I agree with this. I would do the IVF again and try and get more frosties so hopefully you could use those later. BEST OF LUCK! 

    ME- 35    DH- 40
    TTC #1 
    IVF#1 w ICSI- 4/20/11 ER, 6 Eggs, 4 Fertilized, 4/25/11 5 day ET, 2 blasts- 5/4- Beta= BFN- No Frosties 

    IVF #2 w ICSI-6/21/11 ER, 4 Eggs, 2 Fertilized, 6/24/11 3 day ET 2 embryos- Beta 7/5/11- BFN- No frosties.
    NEW RE
    IUI #1- started 50ius of follistim 1/25, IUI 2/3/12 - BFN
    AMH-0.73- DOR 2/2012

    IUI #2- 3/17/12 started 200ius of Follistim , 3/24/12 added ganirelix, 225ius Follistim and 75ius of repronex, IUI- 3/30/12, Beta April 13, 2012-BFN

    Appointment with Dr. Schoolcraft at CCRM July 18, 2012
    WAITING ON A MIRACLE AT THIS POINT
    AMH tested again 1/2013- 1.4!!!!
    IUI #3- 1/14/13 started 200ius of Follistim, 1/20/13 added menopur and ganirelix, IUI 1/25/13. Positive HPT 2/6/13- Beta #1- 193- BFP!!! 2/8/13-Beta#2-426.6
    2/26 ultrasound #1- TWINS!
    Delivered a healthy beautiful baby boy on 10/17/13 10ls. 2 ounces

    TTC #2 
    AMH .75 VERY POOR RESPONDER
    IUI #4 cancelled due to only one egg responding 
    IUI#5 cancelled on CD 10,  (3) follicules were still very small even on 300 IU's of Follistim. Also found fluid in my uterus from C-section scar
    BFP- 8/9/15 
    Beta #1 8/10/15 13DPO-   9.2 (fingers crossed this sticks)
    Beta #2 8/12/15 15DPO   39- progesterone 18 
    Beta #3 8/14/15    111- progesterone 17.5
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  • KaliChickKaliChick member
    You've only got 1 frozen.  I know your RE will only transfer 1 at a time, but I'd be a little nervous with only having 1 frozen.  Also, since you had a little bit of an issue stimming the last time, I'd want to have that frozen as backup.  That's just me though.

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    IVF Take 2 Long Lupron July 2011
    ER 7/3/11 (our 6th anniversary) - 8 retrieved/7 mature/fert ....ET 7/6/11 - 2 beautiful grade A 8 cell embryos
    Beta 7/18/11 - 149!!! Beta 7/21/11 - 311 Beta 7/28/11 - 2,000 8/5/11 - Empty Sac 8/8/11 - There's a yolk sac and maybe a heartbeat 8/12/11 - Fetal pole, yolk sac, heartbeat 8/18/11 - Baby looks GREAT!
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  • GregermisGregermis member

    I would definitely stick with fresh since you have some coverage, and I would push on why she doesn't want to change if your response wasn't so good the first time around......  That seems weird to me.

    GL girl!

    TTC #1 Since 4/2010, Cycle 30
    Positive for HLA-B27, I'm a mutant :p
    Testing - Me ok, gluten issue? DH - borderline count, low motility
    4/28/11 IUI#1 = BFP!(5/25), EDD 2/2/12 - m/c 5w3d
    7/3, 7/31, 9/25 - IUI#2-4=BFN
    IVF#1 - 1 blast = BFP!! (12/30), EDD 9/9/12, confirmed c/p 4w2d
    FET#1 3/2/12 - 2 blasts =BFP!! EDD 11/18/12, us#1 = twins! Confirmed m/c 5w6d
    4/20-surprise BFP and another c/p 4w2d
    FET#2 7/16/12 - 2 blasts = BFN
    FET#3 8/20/12 - 1 blast - BFP!! Beta #1-2=177, 354
    1st u/s 5w6d, one beautiful little HB :), 2nd u/s 146bpm
    baby girl born 5/10/13

    TTC#2 since 12/17/2014, Cycle 8
    Repeat Testing...FSH=12, AMH=3.8, AFC=28. 
    IUI#5 5/10/15- c/p?
    IVF#2 8/19/15 - cancelled due to cysts
    IVF#2 take two 10/2015 - 5 blasts frozen
    FET#4 12/11/2015 - BFN - 4 blasts remaining
    FET#5 2/18/16 - BFP!!!  Beta1-3, 126, 250, 745!!

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  • CluckyEVCluckyEV member
    Stick to your guns.  Especially if you have coverage.  Good Luck with whatever you decide.

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  • tshotttshott member
    I would definitely stick to your guns about this.  I would even push hard to discuss a different protocol.  Can you get a second opinion?
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    11/10 - 100mg Clomid + trigger + IUI + Estradiol + Progesterone = BFN
    12/10 - Unmedicated cycle due to RE not doing treatments in December = BFN
    1/11 - 100mg Clomid + trigger + IUI + Estradiol + Progesterone = BFN
    2/11 - Same sh!t, different month = IUI cancelled due to no response = BFN
    IVF #1 - Start stims (Follistim) 5/10, add in Ganirelix 5/14
    ER 5/21 - 13 retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilized; ET 5/26 - transferred one perfect 1AA blast. 3 snowbabies.
    Beta 6/3 - 15.8; Beta 6/7 - 21.8; Beta 6/10 - 7 :(
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  • wordslikeswordswordslikeswords member

    imagetshott:
    I would definitely stick to your guns about this.  I would even push hard to discuss a different protocol.  Can you get a second opinion?

    Unfortunately they're the only clinic my insurance works with. She did say she could change some things about the protocol, but she still wants me on antagonist. I guess because I have so many antrals she's afraid of OHSS? I should be getting my schedule soon so if it looks strange I'm going to call and ask more questions.

    Thanks for all your advice ladies. My dad said the same thing, and hubs is on board, so I think we'll stick with the fresh. It would be nice to have even 1 more frosty just in case. 

    Me (32) DH (30)

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  • blueberries8blueberries8 member
    I agree...there are too many good reasons to do another fresh cycle to settle for the FET, especially if the FET will cost you more money. Hopefully, at your upcoming wtf, you can go into more detail with her about the quality of last cycle and what did/didn't meet your expectations and her expectations for you and go from there re: tweaking protocol. Good luck!
    IUIs #1-3 (1x unmedicated, 2x Clomid) = 2 BFNs, 1 m/c at 7w3d
    IUIs #4-6 (injects) = 3 BFNs
    IVF #1 = BFN
    FET #1 = BFN
    FET #2 = BFN
    IVF #2 = BFP, b/g twins lost at 20w due to partial abruption/PPROM
    IVF #3 = c/p 5w2d
    Long-shot Clomid/Prednisone cycle before next IVF = BFP, our beautiful, healthy girl born 6/26/13!
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    FET #3 - May/June 2014     -     all embryos arrested before xfer - back to the drawing board...
    IVF #4 - July/August 2014 
    beta 1 (11dp3dt) 220, beta 2 (13dp3dt) 671, beta 3 (19dp3dt) 10762
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