We're considering a move with my husband's company. What can you tell me about your life there? What area do you live in? Is the inversion as bad as it sounds? Is it in all areas?
We're not in Salt Lake now, but that's where all of our family is, and that's where I was while DH was deployed.
Life is good there. Nice, quiet, and cold during the winters! Summers are beautiful though. The inversion can get bad, but it isn't year-round. There are a few days every year that they issue poor air quality warnings and ask everyone to limit driving, but once you get a good rain storm or snow storm, it clears it out. Sunsets are BEAUTIFUL!!
We lived in the West Jordan/South Jordan area. I'd stay away from SLC proper, Magna, Kearns, and West Valley. Generally the south end of the valley (West Jordan, South Jordan, Draper, Sandy, or Herriman) are safe, and they are growing really fast, especially in the west. If you live north or south of the valley (i.e, north of Salt Lake proper or south of Draper), be prepared for a long and nasty commute. That commute will be especially treacherous during the winter.
If you have any more questions, just let me know! We really did like it there. Everyone is so nice. And you're not too far from ski areas, if you're into that kind of thing! Good luck!
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Thank you for your response. A friend in my MOMs Club just moved back east from SLC and she loved it there and is seriously questioning why they returned. She lived in Sun Crest and suggested many of the places you mentioned. She said that Sun Crest was above the inversion so it didn't affect them much (which is good to hear)
Can I ask you a bomb shell question though... I've been scouring the net and am finding lots of message board convos that complain about the Mormon culture. These people felt that their children were snubbed because they weren't mormon and that the laws are kind of old fashioned and strict regarding things like drinking, smoking, etc. And that the LDS church ran the government. Now, I realize that these posts might just be from people who complain just for the sake of complaining. But there were enough posts to make me stop and say "huh? what kind of culture is out there?"
So my question to you is - did you or your family ever get a vibe that they weren't welcome there? Or that your culture didn't mesh well?
Thank you for your response. A friend in my MOMs Club just moved back east from SLC and she loved it there and is seriously questioning why they returned. She lived in Sun Crest and suggested many of the places you mentioned. She said that Sun Crest was above the inversion so it didn't affect them much (which is good to hear)
Can I ask you a bomb shell question though... I've been scouring the net and am finding lots of message board convos that complain about the Mormon culture. These people felt that their children were snubbed because they weren't mormon and that the laws are kind of old fashioned and strict regarding things like drinking, smoking, etc. And that the LDS church ran the government. Now, I realize that these posts might just be from people who complain just for the sake of complaining. But there were enough posts to make me stop and say "huh? what kind of culture is out there?"
So my question to you is - did you or your family ever get a vibe that they weren't welcome there? Or that your culture didn't mesh well?
First... I've never heard of Sun Crest. But if it's above the inversion, it's probably up on the hills, which means it's probably very expensive. And pretty treacherous on winter roads.
Second. I am a Mormon myself, so I hope I can answer this as un-biasedly (is that even a word??) as possible.
Yes,the LDS church is VERY prominent in Utah. We were the first to settle
there, so there are many generations of LDS families who have continued to live
and grow in Utah. Our church's headquarters are there, so that also
requires a lot of members to live there to run things. That said, though,
there are many, many non-LDS people in Utah as well. I think I read
somewhere that there are actually more non-LDS people living in Utah than LDS
people. The culture is very different than anywhere else you will ever
live -- you can walk into Wal-Mart and buy church related books and such.
There are a lot less bars and places to buy alcohol. But I don?t
necessarily think that?s a bad thing. I think it tends to quieter
neighborhoods and a nicer, cleaner atmosphere overall. And while I
wouldn't say that the church RUNS the government (we make a point not to push
political ideology in our church meetings), I do think there are a lot of
Mormons in government offices, simply because there are so many of us. It
would be completely impossible to have a government that didn't have some
influence from LDS people. But I don't think that it's run by our church,
by any means.
I think that there are some families who are born-and-bred,
5-generations-of-members Utah Mormons and have difficulty accepting what they
may see as "outsiders" or some who are encroaching on their quiet way
of life. I have heard of cases and have friends who have experienced what
you mentioned -- being snubbed because they're "not Mormon". I
will, however, say emphatically that THESE ARE NOT IN THE MAJORITY. As
the dynamic in Utah changes (i.e., more religions and ideas moving in), I think
the LDS people as a whole are very open to anyone and everyone coming to visit
or to live. I personally have never met one of the "snubbers",
and I lived in Utah for the better part of 8 years. In fact, our church leaders very recently made a point to remind us that this is not acceptable behavior. We try to emulate Jesus Christ and welcome everyone, religious or not, as a wanted and loved member of the community.
You may be surprised to learn that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints now consists of over 14 million members worldwide. Obviously we can't all fit into Utah. You probably have some Mormon friends and neighbors now and didn't even know it. I would encourage you to seek them out, ask them questions. Decide for yourself. I promise we don't have horns or scales and we don't bite. I sincerely hope that if you do decide to go to Utah that you would be welcomed and loved.
Again, I'm here if you have any more questions or concerns.
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Thanks again for your response. I was hoping that what I read was just a select few who had a bad experience. Its hard to imagine that any community innthis day and age wouldn't embrace a diverse culture and accept newcomers. But ya never know!
I looked at Realtor.com today and checked out some of the areas south and east and they appear reasonably priced (compared to NJ!).
I guess we've got our work cut out for us. Gotta do our homework and crunch a few a few numbers.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Hi! We moved to Salt Lake from NYC 4 years ago for my husband's job, and I will say it has been the best choice for us! We absolutely love it here. It is beautiful, clean, people are friendly/laid-back and it is a great place to raise a family. (And I have lived all over the country The inversion is really not THAT bad, the pros of the place make up for it by far. And even with the inversion, I would choose a Utah winter over the northeast any day. Now...the local culture takes some getting used to, there are lots of Mormons around for sure (we are not) but being in the minority religiously has never been a problem for us as many seem to indicate on message boards about Utah (I, too, was a little nervous about this before moving). I would strongly recommend living in Salt Lake (close to the University, Avenues, Sugarhouse, Cottonwood Heights, Holladay) or Park City if you are concerned about this issue. Living close to downtown also made the transition to a smaller city easier for us. I have found a great group of moms here, and we drink wine! GL with your choice and feel free to PM me for more info.
Re: Longshot: Any SAHMs from Salt Lake City?
We're not in Salt Lake now, but that's where all of our family is, and that's where I was while DH was deployed.
Life is good there. Nice, quiet, and cold during the winters! Summers are beautiful though. The inversion can get bad, but it isn't year-round. There are a few days every year that they issue poor air quality warnings and ask everyone to limit driving, but once you get a good rain storm or snow storm, it clears it out. Sunsets are BEAUTIFUL!!
We lived in the West Jordan/South Jordan area. I'd stay away from SLC proper, Magna, Kearns, and West Valley. Generally the south end of the valley (West Jordan, South Jordan, Draper, Sandy, or Herriman) are safe, and they are growing really fast, especially in the west. If you live north or south of the valley (i.e, north of Salt Lake proper or south of Draper), be prepared for a long and nasty commute. That commute will be especially treacherous during the winter.
If you have any more questions, just let me know! We really did like it there. Everyone is so nice. And you're not too far from ski areas, if you're into that kind of thing! Good luck!
Thank you for your response. A friend in my MOMs Club just moved back east from SLC and she loved it there and is seriously questioning why they returned. She lived in Sun Crest and suggested many of the places you mentioned. She said that Sun Crest was above the inversion so it didn't affect them much (which is good to hear)
Can I ask you a bomb shell question though... I've been scouring the net and am finding lots of message board convos that complain about the Mormon culture. These people felt that their children were snubbed because they weren't mormon and that the laws are kind of old fashioned and strict regarding things like drinking, smoking, etc. And that the LDS church ran the government. Now, I realize that these posts might just be from people who complain just for the sake of complaining. But there were enough posts to make me stop and say "huh? what kind of culture is out there?"
So my question to you is - did you or your family ever get a vibe that they weren't welcome there? Or that your culture didn't mesh well?
First... I've never heard of Sun Crest. But if it's above the inversion, it's probably up on the hills, which means it's probably very expensive. And pretty treacherous on winter roads.
Second. I am a Mormon myself, so I hope I can answer this as un-biasedly (is that even a word??) as possible.
Yes,the LDS church is VERY prominent in Utah. We were the first to settle there, so there are many generations of LDS families who have continued to live and grow in Utah. Our church's headquarters are there, so that also requires a lot of members to live there to run things. That said, though, there are many, many non-LDS people in Utah as well. I think I read somewhere that there are actually more non-LDS people living in Utah than LDS people. The culture is very different than anywhere else you will ever live -- you can walk into Wal-Mart and buy church related books and such. There are a lot less bars and places to buy alcohol. But I don?t necessarily think that?s a bad thing. I think it tends to quieter neighborhoods and a nicer, cleaner atmosphere overall. And while I wouldn't say that the church RUNS the government (we make a point not to push political ideology in our church meetings), I do think there are a lot of Mormons in government offices, simply because there are so many of us. It would be completely impossible to have a government that didn't have some influence from LDS people. But I don't think that it's run by our church, by any means.
I think that there are some families who are born-and-bred, 5-generations-of-members Utah Mormons and have difficulty accepting what they may see as "outsiders" or some who are encroaching on their quiet way of life. I have heard of cases and have friends who have experienced what you mentioned -- being snubbed because they're "not Mormon". I will, however, say emphatically that THESE ARE NOT IN THE MAJORITY. As the dynamic in Utah changes (i.e., more religions and ideas moving in), I think the LDS people as a whole are very open to anyone and everyone coming to visit or to live. I personally have never met one of the "snubbers", and I lived in Utah for the better part of 8 years. In fact, our church leaders very recently made a point to remind us that this is not acceptable behavior. We try to emulate Jesus Christ and welcome everyone, religious or not, as a wanted and loved member of the community.
You may be surprised to learn that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints now consists of over 14 million members worldwide. Obviously we can't all fit into Utah. You probably have some Mormon friends and neighbors now and didn't even know it. I would encourage you to seek them out, ask them questions. Decide for yourself. I promise we don't have horns or scales and we don't bite.
I sincerely hope that if you do decide to go to Utah that you would be welcomed and loved.
Again, I'm here if you have any more questions or concerns.