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MrsDe2008
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Anyone have success with CIO?
MrsDe2008
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This kid does not want to STTN...or more than 2-3 hours at a time before getting up. I usually stick the bottle back in her mouth and she goes back to sleep (she hates the paci). But, I'm tired and this is ridiculous. She's been sleeping in our bed, but the last 2 nights I've been putting her in the PnP next to our bed. It's time for her to sleep in her crib in her bed. So, should I let her CIO when she wakes up fussing? Did anyone have success with just ignoring their kid? I feel like a bad mom if I do. =(
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Re: Anyone have success with CIO?
So she's got a bottle all night?
Well, it sounds like maybe you should do your research regarding sleep training. There is a middle ground between getting up 50 times a night, and straight CIO. My favorite sleep training book is the No Cry Sleep Solution.
Personally, I think just doing straight CIO on a 4 month old without trying anything else first is a bit lazy. I know some parents do it eventually, but at least try some other things first to see if they work.
So I am not the only one!!! I tried to let my LO CIO last night to go to bed. He cried for 1 1/2 hours! i went in there at certain time intervals. Nothing, I just couldnt stand to have him cry for that long! the minute i picked him up he was sleeping, I put him in the bed with me at that point because everytime i put him in the crib he woke up. I AM EXHAUSTED! he wakes up at least twice, i give him the bottle the first time after trying not to for about 20 minutes then i give in. the second time he just needs a little rocking.
I am going to try again tonight, i have heard so many success stories so it has to work!
I like the no cry sleep solution as well. She has a section on breaking the habit of bottle/breastfeeding all night (this causes bad cavities when LO gets teeth).
I replied to you on the November Moms board as well, but I think what you are doing is really crazy. An hour and a half of crying at 5 months old? And then you went in and picked up anyway, which kind of defeats the whole purpose.
Secondly, go to bed earlier. Getting up only twice a night should not be that debilitating for a healthy adult. You might have an underlying medical condition if you are that incapacitated from getting up twice a night.
I was thinking this as well! Twice a night is not bad at all. And 1.5 hours of crying?! If I let DD go 5 minutes (and that's a big IF, and only if I've been trying for awhile to get her down or calm), I'm bawling just like DD and cuddling her tight.
DS BFP 8.29.2012 EDD 5.11.2013 born sleeping @ 17 weeks 12.1.2012
Ok. I'm not trying to flame you here, really. I'm sure you're doing what you think is best. But you really should pick up a book or two on sleep training, because it sounds like you're just winging it and it's not working.
Waking up twice at night is very normal for a 5 month old. Even needing to eat twice at night is normal for a 5 month old. Letting him cry for 20 minutes when it's highly likely that he's hungry is not going to help him sleep.
How can you be so exhausted if he's only up 2x? What time does he go to bed and wake up? How long does it take to get him to sleep without crying? What time do YOU go to bed and wake up?
And an hour and a half? How would you feel after crying for an hour and a half? Peaceful and ready to sleep? No, your head would hurt, you'd be thirsty, hoarse and miserable. I'm not totally anti-sleep training if it's NEEDED, but you've got to have a method beyond "eventually it's got to work."
and OP: another recommendation here for No Cry Sleep Solution. And some patience.
Your LO is still very young. She may actually still be hungry every 2-3 hours, especially if she's getting BM which is so easily (ie quickly) digested.
Instead of just sticking the bottle back in her mouth (a whole different issue...), have you tried doing a full feeding? She might really be hungry, but falls asleep with the bottle in her mouth before finishing- then since she didn't really eat enough, she's awake again in a few hours.
If you do decide to CIO, please read up on it first. There should be a method to it, not just ignore them until they stop crying.
Do some research on different sleep training options and find one you like and have a plan. I've been reading Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child by Dr. Marc Weissbluth. He supports CIO but there are different lengths of time you do it and you have to have the timing down. You don't just let them cry when its time for them to be awake because you want them to go to sleep. You set up a routine and have a set time that you soothe them and help them go to sleep. We haven't started yet because I want to make sure I'm comfortable with it first.
And I understand how tired you are and how 2 night wakings can make you feel. If you don't go to bed till 11pm and you are up 2 or 3 times and have to get up at 6am, that is not quality sleep. Good Luck.
I did CIO once, on recommendation of Pedi. Will NEVER do again. Hated every minute of it. She only cried 10 minutes, and then I had enough.
On another note - i just ordered No Cry Sleep Solution! Can't wait, will be here Saturday! she's a fussy little sleeper if I don't rock her. Thankyou for all the high remarks on this book, I had been debating a book for a while. Now it's very much needed LOL.
Haha-- all these people who say you shouldn't be tired with 2 wake-ups a night are obviously not waking up twice a night! The issue isn't being awake for 15 minutes, it is having to get yourself back to sleep afterwards, finally falling asleep, and then the baby is ready for the next feeding what feels like an hour later.
This is very true. There have been nights I've laid awake from the time I put DS down until he woke 2 hours later. On average it takes me at least 30-45 minutes to fall back asleep.
My DD is up 2-3 times a night every night. It easily takes me 45 minutes at least to get her back to sleep, then I watch her on the monitor to make sure she stays asleep. I'm still a functioning adult during the day. Somedays I'm more tired than others, but I have no reason to have DD cry it out at this point. She wakes up because she's hungry or needs me.
DS BFP 8.29.2012 EDD 5.11.2013 born sleeping @ 17 weeks 12.1.2012
Hmm. My LO wakes up at least 3 times a night to eat.
I get being tired. My point is: fix the issues that you can fix (adjust bedtime, full feedings, etc) and go to bed earlier so YOU get more sleep. If that doesn't work, try sleep-training. Don't just let your kid CIO because YOU are tired without putting in the effort to fix the issues that you are able to.
Sorry I had to post and run before. But, to answer a few questions, no my daughter doesn't get the bottle all night, she get's it when she's hysterically crying and won't take a paci and seems hungry...she's a snacker...always has been. I've tried getting her on a better eating schedule, but she seems to make up her own rules about eating and sleeping...I just need some control here and don't know how to get it.
Yea, sometimes it's not so easy to just fall back to sleep...and like I've said, she's up every hour to 2 hours and it is exhausting when you don't have continuous sleep.
I will look into some kind of sleep training and I will definitely talk to her pedi when I go back on the 16th...thanks for the input.
You're right, I don't wake up twice a night, I get up much more than that with a reflux baby. So I totally don't get someone in good health to struggle with only 2 nightwakings.