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November 2011 Moms
nicolesspirit
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Are you and your husband on the same political party?
nicolesspirit
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I'm a conservative/liberal independent (if that's not crazy) and my husband is fairly liberal. We agree for the most part. I wonder what the kids will take away from our discussions?
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Re: Are you and your husband on the same political party?
We're the exact same...I'm definitely an independent/libertarian and DH is a huge Democrat...we don't always see eye to eye but at least the kid will not grow up watching fox news.
I am puzzled by couples who have vastly different political views. Because to me, your politics are closely connected to your values. And having shared values, in my opinion, is vital to a happy, healthy marriage, and successfully raising children.
How can you be happily married to someone who's values are so vastly different from your own? You don't have to agree on everything, but the core HAS to match or you are just doomed.
DMoney will be a kickass big sister
Coming from a home with a very Republican Father and an equally Democratic Mother, I can tell you that their life values have very little to do with their political views. Both had a very united front on how to treat others and how our family ran but had some interesting discussions on how the country should be run. I really think it was a benefit to my sister and I to see both sides of the argument and the pros and cons to both sides.
Personally, DH and I are pretty much on the same page politcally but if DH ever disagrees with me, I just blow him off and tell him his opinion doesn't count, since he's not a citizen.
Just because we disagree on our political views does not mean that we disagree on our family values and how to raise a family. We have strong morals that will be passed down to our children. Because I vote one way and he votes another does not mean we are "doomed". I have seen many strong marriages comprised of differing political views, in my family and DH's.
There is no way in hell I could be married to someone who voted for leaders who wanted to outlaw abortion, crap on Planned Parenthood, abolish the EPA, deny gay marriage/rights, and screw the poor while making the wealthy richer. How can political affiliation not be associated with core values?
DMoney will be a kickass big sister
This is kind of generalizing. While my husband and I lean in different directions, we agree on many of those issues (particularly with Planned Parenthood and gay marriage/rights as you mentioned above).
I think a lot of people call themselves Republican or Democrat without really knowing what it means. There ARE more choices, but people really don't know what Libertarians or Constitutionalists are either.
Most of the Republicans I am friends with, if you really get to what they believe and support, are not really Republicans. They would be Libertarians.
DMoney will be a kickass big sister
We agree on some things such as abortion and planned parenthood, other things we disagree on - none of which put us or our marriage at risk or take away from our core values or beliefs. I think it will be beneficial for our children to see both sides of the aisle and why we each feel the way we do. Why are my core values decided strictly and only by the way I vote? There is a lot more to it such as my religious beliefs, my education, my upbringing. Just because it does not work for you does not mean it doesn't/won't work for us. We can listen and understand each other's differences and have a friendly debate about it then move on with our days.
That's why I indentify myself as Libertarian/independent, because the Republican party has the social issues SOOOO WRONG.
Then perhaps you are calling yourself Republican when you are really NOT a Republican.
DMoney will be a kickass big sister
Yup us too, and we were both of our parents have the same views as well
I didn't call either of us one or the other. I said neither of us identify with a particular party, but if someone wanted to put a category to us, my husband would lean more Republican and I would be considered more liberal.
ETA: And I meant that we agree that Planned Parenthood is needed and that gays should have equal rights. I reread how I wrote that statement and I didn't word it exactly right. I was just singling out those issues, not exactly what you said about them (such as denying rights).
I would like to know why being a Republican always has to be correlated with the far-right wingnuts that are coo-coo over social issues? Both parties have the crazies. People always generalize republicans as having to be anti-gay, anti-abortion, etc. etc.
I am a Republican. I believe in lesser Federal power, more state control, and supporting the Constitution of the United States. I am skeptical of many environmental policies. I am very pro-military and support the right to bare arms, even though I hate guns personally. I am anti-union. Illegal immigration pisses me off. I am pro-choice. I am for gay marriage. I am not in the slightest bit religious, just for the record.
Why do you assume that just because someone is pro-Planned Parenthood and gay rights that they can't be a Republican?
Erm, are you familiar with the Republican party? Seriously -- sounds like you *think* you are Republican but you sound more like a Constitutionalist to me. NOT the same thing. Like it or not, when you say you are a Republican, you are aligning yourself with their social policies as much as the economic ones. AND - the Republican answers to economic policies fly in the face of the middle class, which I bet would also piss you off if you really examined them.
DMoney will be a kickass big sister
So, if you are a democrat, that means you agree in every single capacity with your party? You don't disagree with a single democratic view or opinion?
Last time I checked, republicans were center-right and democrats were center-left. All I'm saying is that just because someone isn't far right, it doesn't mean they are not republican.
People like you are the reason the country is so polarized. Not all republicans are the bad guy. Not all republicans like Sarah Palin. Not all republicans want tax cuts for the rich. And, surprise, not all republicans are as stupid as you are trying to say they are.
I think you need to look back in some history books for the true definition of our political parties, and stop listening to so much slanted media. Sorry, no disrespect, but your logic is not at all logical to me.
ETA: P.s. Please don't take my comments as a personal attack or anything, I just enjoy a political debate (against my better judgment) from time to time. I'm not trying to be a b, just stating my opinions, sorry if it came off harsh, I don't mean it that way!
People like ME are the reason we're polarized? Sure - cos you know, I'm on national TV spouting conspiracy theories and spinning rhetoric for politicians. ::roll eyes:: Seriously - you're giving me credit I don't deserve! The polarizing is the issue I am talking about -- supporting 1 of 2 parties is a BAD system, because there are way more than 2 ways to believe.
I'm not a Democrat. And I didn't say Republicans were stupid, or the bad guy. But I do believe that many people identify as being a Dem or Republican who really AREN'T. In my opinion, there are far too many in the voting public who have no idea what they are supporting when they cast their vote. Over and over people, even in this thread, say they identify as Republican then backpedal over the crappy agenda the Republican leadership CLEARLY is ALL about.
DMoney will be a kickass big sister
Please see my above edit... I wasn't trying to be a jerk in my last comments, just trying to state my opinions.
And I know you didn't call Republicans stupid, but you said in this thread 'Maybe you say you're a republican, when you're really not" and "Erm, are you familiar with the republican party?"... which to me, meant you were inferring that we were not smart enough to do our political research before aligning with a particular side, which I personally resent.
To be honest, I see what your saying here in this response. The 2 party system is no longer working for us. I think it's because both parties have gotten away from their original ideals. But as much as it sucks, in the United States, especially if you want a voice in the primaries, you really only have two choices.
Until we have more choices, yes, I'm going to call myself a Republican because those are the ideals that I am more aligned with. You can call me a "Constitutionalist", but until there is a "Constitiutional" party, I'll stick with the term Republican over Democrat.
This is us. Husband tends to be more conservative and I tend to be more liberal, but we always find common ground when we don't agree.
Now, now, be nice!
Stick around, we've actually had some really interesting political conversations with participants from alllllll political persuasions and very little nastiness. I've learned quite a bit about "the other side."
Edit: I'm a liberal socially and fiscally, but I also see the value in a balance of power. Guess that's one area my husband and I disagree on...
DH and I are both finacially and morally/socially conservative! And, I know for me personally, I would not have been able to marry someone who did not agree with me on political and moral issues. I am sure it works for some people, I am just not one of them!