July 2011 Moms

s/o Parenting Topics - Homeschooling (somewhat of a PSA)

Homeschooling does not equal an unsocial/deprived child. There are many homeschool groups all over the country that get together and teach advanced classes, social classes, sports, extracurriculars, etc.

I was homeschooled in junior high and high school. I was involved in drama, choir, volleyball and advanced math and science classes (I actually met DH in drama). There are a LOT of opportunities for homeschooled students other than sitting at home with their mom all day long. 

I don't think everyone knows this is available. While I completely understand homeschooling is not for everyone, I just thought I would throw this information out there Smile

Re: s/o Parenting Topics - Homeschooling (somewhat of a PSA)

  • I wasn't homeschooled, but had some great friends in town who were.  They were part of an excellent homeschooling group and they actually had more opportunities than I did since I attended a very small public school.  
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  • Yeah and just think of all the kids that feel completely alone and socially isolated in a regular school because they don't have any friends.
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  • Yes

    I loved being homeschooled and was definitely not socially deprived. 

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  • One of my good friends was homeschooled and she's not socially deprived and never was.

    Its up there with all girls schools, IMO they are amazing places, you have the opportunity to learn as you, not who people want you to be. 

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  • To me, it depends on the family and the approach they take with homeschooling, as well as the individual temperment of each child. Some do well in this setting, and some do not, the same as anything else.

    My issues come when it is done for religious reasons and the kids do not get socialized and opened up to other avenues of thought, because that is not well rounded or beneficial for them learning to cope in the real world.

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    My issues come when it is done for religious reasons and the kids do not get socialized and opened up to other avenues of thought, because that is not well rounded or beneficial for them learning to cope in the real world.

    This. 

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  • My SIL was homeschooled. She's a really sweet person. She homeschools all her kids. They are great, social, well-rounded kids. So I think it can definitely work. But I personally would/could never do it. Also, she definitely does it for religious reasons and I am sure her kids will not have any exposure to religious views other than the Baptist/Christian views they are taught at church and by their mom.

    In addition, I heard that if you are homeschooled you can never go to an Ivy League school (because they won't accept students with GEDs). I'm not certain that is the case, but that is what I had head. Not that I went to an Ivy League school either though.

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    imagepixiegirl131415:

    To me, it depends on the family and the approach they take with homeschooling, as well as the individual temperment of each child. Some do well in this setting, and some do not, the same as anything else.

    My issues come when it is done for religious reasons and the kids do not get socialized and opened up to other avenues of thought, because that is not well rounded or beneficial for them learning to cope in the real world.

    THIS!

    I have family that was home schooled and their kids more involved/active than I ever was.  Their mom was one of the busiest women I have ever known and did a lot to make it a well-rounded experience for all of them.

    But as a school counselor I have known kids that were home-schooled or pulled out of the school to be home-schooled.  Many of them did not get what they need academically/socially.  It is really all in what the parent is willing to put out and the student's own personality.

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  • I'm sure there are some great home schools out there. Sadly, I have yet to meet a person IRL that was home schooled for more than 4 years who does not meet the sterotypical image.

    They are smart people, but the smart-ness ends at being booksmart. The people who I've met are just....weird. Like, "stay away from my kids" weird.

     


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    I'm sure there are some great home schools out there. Sadly, I have yet to meet a person IRL that was home schooled for more than 4 years who does not meet the sterotypical image.

    They are smart people, but the smart-ness ends at being booksmart. The people who I've met are just....weird. Like, "stay away from my kids" weird.

     

    i have a friend from law school who was not stay away from my kids weird... but he was 19 and in law school.  He was extremely socially akward.  I like him a lot, hes a great kid, ill let him hang out with my baby... but i dont think his parents did him any favors. I don't think being a 22 year old law grad with minimal social skills helps anyone.   But he's friggin' brilliant. They did a damn good job educating him.

     

    on that ivy league thing - i am SURE that is not true.  I mean every few weeks hallmark or lifetimes does a based on true events movie about a homeless kid who gets a GED and goes to Harvard. 

    Clearly im kidding, but im certain that wont be true.  My guess is that would be a violation of civil liberties.  Harvard gets federal funds, parents have a civil right ot educate thier child as they seem fit, that would be discriminating against kids for those choices.  thats my educated guess, i could be talking out of my @ss

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    In addition, I heard that if you are homeschooled you can never go to an Ivy League school (because they won't accept students with GEDs). I'm not certain that is the case, but that is what I had head. Not that I went to an Ivy League school either though.

     That isn't true. My husband was homeschooled and was accepted to MIT. While not a standard Ivy League school, it is just as competitive to get in to.

    That being said, my husband is pretty socially awkward (not in a weird creepy way, just doesn't really know what to say to people). He was very involved in different things in hs and ms, but I think a lot of basic socialization skills happen early on. His elementary experience was just him, his brother, and his mom.

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    imageSaltina11:

    In addition, I heard that if you are homeschooled you can never go to an Ivy League school (because they won't accept students with GEDs). I'm not certain that is the case, but that is what I had head. Not that I went to an Ivy League school either though.

     That isn't true. My husband was homeschooled and was accepted to MIT. While not a standard Ivy League school, it is just as competitive to get in to.

    That being said, my husband is pretty socially awkward (not in a weird creepy way, just doesn't really know what to say to people). He was very involved in different things in hs and ms, but I think a lot of basic socialization skills happen early on. His elementary experience was just him, his brother, and his mom.

    FYI 

    competitive, high ranking and one of the best schools in the country (world even)? Yes.

    ivy? no.

     

    Ivy league is a specific list of 8 schools, not a class of elite schools or a standard to be met.  MIT is just as good as those 10 schools... if not better but its not one of hte 10 ivy and thus not ivy. 

     

    eta  8 not 10.  i did not go to an ivy mabe because i cant count :-) 

    ETA #2: MIT IS JUST AS GOOD.  I said the opposite of what I meant. 

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  • imageaesf:
    imageleighzlou:
    imageSaltina11:

    In addition, I heard that if you are homeschooled you can never go to an Ivy League school (because they won't accept students with GEDs). I'm not certain that is the case, but that is what I had head. Not that I went to an Ivy League school either though.

     That isn't true. My husband was homeschooled and was accepted to MIT. While not a standard Ivy League school, it is just as competitive to get in to.

    That being said, my husband is pretty socially awkward (not in a weird creepy way, just doesn't really know what to say to people). He was very involved in different things in hs and ms, but I think a lot of basic socialization skills happen early on. His elementary experience was just him, his brother, and his mom.

    FYI 

    competitive, high ranking and one of the best schools in the country (world even)? Yes.

    ivy? no.

     

    Ivy league is a specific list of 8 schools, not a class of elite schools or a standard to be met.  MIT is not just as good as those 10 schools... if not better but its not one of hte 10 ivy and thus not ivy. 

     

    eta  8 not 10.  i did not go to an ivy mabe because i cant count :-) 

    There's no standard admissions criteria for all Ivies. They're individual schools with individual admissions standards. 

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    imageaesf:
    imageleighzlou:
    imageSaltina11:

    In addition, I heard that if you are homeschooled you can never go to an Ivy League school (because they won't accept students with GEDs). I'm not certain that is the case, but that is what I had head. Not that I went to an Ivy League school either though.

     That isn't true. My husband was homeschooled and was accepted to MIT. While not a standard Ivy League school, it is just as competitive to get in to.

    That being said, my husband is pretty socially awkward (not in a weird creepy way, just doesn't really know what to say to people). He was very involved in different things in hs and ms, but I think a lot of basic socialization skills happen early on. His elementary experience was just him, his brother, and his mom.

    FYI 

    competitive, high ranking and one of the best schools in the country (world even)? Yes.

    ivy? no.

     

    Ivy league is a specific list of 8 schools, not a class of elite schools or a standard to be met.  MIT is not just as good as those 10 schools... if not better but its not one of hte 10 ivy and thus not ivy. 

     

    eta  8 not 10.  i did not go to an ivy mabe because i cant count :-) 

    There's no standard admissions criteria for all Ivies. They're individual schools with individual admissions standards. 

    This - and I'd like to point out a home schooled child does not necessarily have a GED.



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  • I can honestly say that I don't know a ton of adults who have been home schooled so I really have no opinion of the social/emotional  impact of home schooling. I do know that when I worked for Head start as a home visitor I had a family where the mother was home schooling her teenage daughter.  Often the mother commented on her own difficulty with Al-GEE-bra (Algebra).  If you can't say it you problem can't teach it.

    I think the parent has to be an intelligent, well educated individual for home schooling to have more benefits then public or private schooling. Even then I'd be hesitant to home school my high school student simply because the science and mathematical curricula are so dense and  really need some expertise. I live and teach in an urban district with a larger population of low income students and even we have AP classes and kids applying to Ivy League schools.      

     

  • I work as a School Counselor at a public school and I can tell you the Ivy League issue that is not true. First of all most homeschooled kids follow a curriculum that is state approved and earn a high school diploma not a GED. Each year I attend an information session with Admissions Counselors from Harvard, Yale, Penn, and Stanford. They have stated numerous times that while a home schooled child has to send supporting documentation of the work they have done they do accept many each year. What they look for is examples of advanced work, projects, video tapes of their music, sci project etc. They also look more heavily at test scores (PSAT, SAT, ACT) because it shows that they were taught to the standard that the college expects. Ivy League schools have a rigourous application process with many requiring interviews so they can decide if the school the student attended (public, private, home schooled, charter, Virtual etc) is up to their rigour. 

    Each year we also have home schooled children come to our school to take the PSAT, I am the supervisor for the SAT at our school and many come to take it during normal testing time, and we have home schooled children come to take AP exams. 

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  • imageBooger+Bear:
    imageMrsJuicy2B:
    imageaesf:
    imageleighzlou:
    imageSaltina11:

    In addition, I heard that if you are homeschooled you can never go to an Ivy League school (because they won't accept students with GEDs). I'm not certain that is the case, but that is what I had head. Not that I went to an Ivy League school either though.

     That isn't true. My husband was homeschooled and was accepted to MIT. While not a standard Ivy League school, it is just as competitive to get in to.

    That being said, my husband is pretty socially awkward (not in a weird creepy way, just doesn't really know what to say to people). He was very involved in different things in hs and ms, but I think a lot of basic socialization skills happen early on. His elementary experience was just him, his brother, and his mom.

    FYI 

    competitive, high ranking and one of the best schools in the country (world even)? Yes.

    ivy? no.

     

    Ivy league is a specific list of 8 schools, not a class of elite schools or a standard to be met.  MIT is not just as good as those 10 schools... if not better but its not one of hte 10 ivy and thus not ivy. 

     

    eta  8 not 10.  i did not go to an ivy mabe because i cant count :-) 

    There's no standard admissions criteria for all Ivies. They're individual schools with individual admissions standards. 

    This - and I'd like to point out a home schooled child does not necessarily have a GED.

    True. I have a high school diploma not a GED.

  • imagepixiegirl131415:

    To me, it depends on the family and the approach they take with homeschooling, as well as the individual temperment of each child. Some do well in this setting, and some do not, the same as anything else.

    My issues come when it is done for religious reasons and the kids do not get socialized and opened up to other avenues of thought, because that is not well rounded or beneficial for them learning to cope in the real world.

    I agree.  
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