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How reliable is BBT & FF combined?

So I am really trying to do my "homework" and figure out questions on my own before asking here. 

BUT... I just can't figure out what I want to know.

How reliable does my chart look? Is there a chance I O'd later than what FF is telling me?? Could it be I never O'd at all?? I chart ONLY at 6:15 AM, I never get up, I get 7+ hours a sleep a night... so I don't think that the temps would be too faulty. I ordered OPKs to try for next cycle so it's more accurate. 

I am just have no signs of AF... and I got a BFN this morning. 

I guess I'm just in denial that this could be another super long cycle.

Any input is appreciated. :) 

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Re: How reliable is BBT & FF combined?

  • What happens if you change the CM to EW at 7DPO?
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  • It takes FF three cycles to get a good 'read' on you.

    I'm also having a long cycle right now, tested at 17 dpo as well, and am hoping I'll get a BFP if AF doesn't show up...not very likey though!

    Make sure you have a good BBT. I had to pitch mine mid cycle and now don't feel my temps are too reliable! Keep charting and good luck!

  • imagesourapplemartini:
    What happens if you change the CM to EW at 7DPO?

    I'm not really that great at CM identification yet, but isn't EW when it's also like liquidy? JW... I put sticky whenever it comes out kind of dry but white.. and like it's stretchy (not smooth) between my fingers. Should I put EW on CD7 just for the heck of it? 

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  • The average Luteral phase is 12-16 days, anything longer than that is unusual (not completely abnormal, but def. out of the "normal" range) so you may have O'd a little later than FF says...
  • It doesn't look like you have a temp shift until CD33, if your temps stay up I bet your CH will move.
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  • EW or watery is slippery. Creamy/sticky CM is just that. I find it's easier to identify when you check internally, I get a better read of it. Sometimes it's hard to tell when it just from wiping.

    Try putting watery at 7DPO (not CD7) and see what happens.

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  • Your lack of fertile CM has me confused!  It could be you O'd very late on CD 33, or perhaps that was an implantation dip at CD 26 and FF was right all along?  Best of luck, wish I could be of more help.
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  • imageJenn478:
    It doesn't look like you have a temp shift until CD33, if your temps stay up I bet your CH will move.

    I completely agree, it doesn't appear as if you O'd until CD33.  As a PP mentioned, the lack of fertile CM makes it more difficult to detect... which is probably why FF gave you dotted CH.  When I first started charting, distinguishing what type of CM I was having was difficult, but definitely become super clear to me the last cycle.  GL!


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  • Alright then, I'll just keep on keepin' on. =)

    Thanks for the help. 

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  • imageJenn478:
    It doesn't look like you have a temp shift until CD33, if your temps stay up I bet your CH will move.

    This is what I was thinking. Do you check CM internally or externally? Try to check it every day because FF takes it into consideration. I would just wait it out!

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  • imageJenn478:
    It doesn't look like you have a temp shift until CD33, if your temps stay up I bet your CH will move.
    Agreed.


     

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  • imageJSRICH:

    imageJenn478:
    It doesn't look like you have a temp shift until CD33, if your temps stay up I bet your CH will move.

    This is what I was thinking. Do you check CM internally or externally? Try to check it every day because FF takes it into consideration. I would just wait it out!

     I check it externally -- when I wipe, on my undies, etc. This is my first month charting... so I started with the BBT, and started to read TCOYF. For next month, I ordered OPKs and will definitely pay closer attention to the CM-- I'll start checking it internally instead. 

    Thanks, again.

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  • Have you checked out this yet?  It might help with determining which type of CM you have.  *Warning - graphic*

    https://www.beautifulcervix.com/cervix-photo-galleries/photos-of-cervix/

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  • imageLegalPawn:
    I'm pretty sure a bunch of us told you yesterday (?) that it looked more like you O'd on CD33 and with a few more days of temps FF will likely move your CH.  FF is pretty accurate for the most part, but it does move CHs, and in your case you already have dashed lines meaning that fertility signs are in conflict with each other. 

    I did post yesterday, but with a different question about my temp. Sorry if i've been redundant. Just looking for answers that have things make more sense to me. 

    Thanks again! :)  

    BFP #1 4/23/11, EDD 1/4/12::No heartbeat @ 9 wks::D&C 6/1/11 
    Child #1  June 2012
    Child #2  Feb 2014
    Child #3  Feb 16
    BFP 3/9/17
    Lilypie Pregnancy tickers
  • imageJenn478:

    Have you checked out this yet?  It might help with determining which type of CM you have.  *Warning - graphic*

    https://www.beautifulcervix.com/cervix-photo-galleries/photos-of-cervix/

    Thanks! Any help I can get, I'll take. :) 

    BFP #1 4/23/11, EDD 1/4/12::No heartbeat @ 9 wks::D&C 6/1/11 
    Child #1  June 2012
    Child #2  Feb 2014
    Child #3  Feb 16
    BFP 3/9/17
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