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s/o gov't shutdown: assclown politicians / Duffy
Senate tries to get bill passed so Congress can't get paychecks during gov't shutdown. Congress Rep. Duffy in Wisconsin says,
"I can guarantee you, or most of you, I guarantee that I have more debt than all of you. With 6 kids, I still pay off my student loans. I still pay my mortgage. I drive a used minivan. If you think I'm living high on the hog, I've got one paycheck. So I struggle to meet my bills right now."
Welcome to fuckings America. People are losing their homes (#1 reason is because of healthcare costs) and he has 2... but is "struggling" more than you or I on his almost 175K salary that taxpayers fund. Which he will continue to get in a government shutdown.
Also, dude disclosed he has 15-50K in credit card debt. No fuckings wonder you're struggling.
Who thought it would be a good idea to vote this guy into office to help balance the budget? Especially given that he ostensibly failed both consumer ed and sex ed.
lol that a Republican politician says he needs government money to make ends meet for all those kids he kept having. But he will side against welfare recipients (or any of us!) who say the same thing.
::vomits all over the government::
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Re: s/o gov't shutdown: assclown politicians / Duffy
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lol, I think the biggest problem is voting Republican in the first place.
I have yet to see dems propose anything that would help our budget. They're awfully good at finding ways to spend money we don't have though.
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fellow libertarian reporting for duty! e-high five!
Considered voting Ron Paul, but I don't think he's a true libertarian because of his anti-choice stance. Moot point anyway.
Democrats want to spend all my money, Republicans just want everyone to be able to buy guns and not get abortions.
I hate them all.
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Especially in Wisconsin.
To the Libertarian's in the room, a question. I get the idea of less government and restricting spending to the must haves not the nice to haves that said....How does a Liberatarian stand on things like unemployment? Under the true liberatarian ideals (as I understand them, so correct me if I am wrong) shouldn't the government essentially do the bare minimum basics (roads, safety, and defense) butt out of the rest and everything else is on us to figure out.
Given that ideal how do you deal with the hundreds of thousands of people who are currently unemployed? Do you just say tough crap not our problem? Since technically that would be over involvement of the goverment correct? Sorry I have a hard time with people who think they are Liberatarians or Tea Partiers who say spend less spend less but when asked where they don't ever seem to have good answers on what to actually do.
Dont get me wrong I think 99 weeks of Unemployment is BS and I think in general Unemployment is way to easy to get (from an HR perspective) but I just wonder about how you deal with the people who truly deserve it (got laid off, company closed etc.) under a Liberatarian view point.
I think that's the answer. Do people deserve 6 months to get back on their feet? Sure. Two years? No fvcking way!
I don't think many people have problems with the fact that assistance programs like this exist - it's just that they're completely out of control.
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The party's official stance is to end such programs because they have been a failure and poverty became generational. Many libertarian minds like Milton Friedman don't have such a hard bottom line and are (were, in his case) comfortable with wealth redistribution if it serves an anti-poverty purpose and is within reasonable limits.
I am not a rightist libertarian an am extremely against everything the Tea Party is associated with, as can be seen in a couple of my comments above. The bolded part seems unnecessarily hostile or sarcastic.
Also, the true beauty of the Libertarian society is that we are made up of people compassionate enough to want to help people in need. We just don't want to be forced to help them against our will.
If we were able to keep more of our tax money, I think it would be truly surprising to see how much charitable donations would rise to create privatized social services to help meet the needs of the disadvantaged, and it would be to give them the skills and employment needed to get back on their own two feet, not a handout that makes it easier to rely on someone else for income.
I know that some people would still fall through the cracks, but look at the programs the government is running: look at the USPS, look at government assisted housing and the waiting lists for those, look at Medicaid, look at the caseload social workers are carrying and the overcrowded prisons. The more money we throw at them, the more in debt they become. People are already falling through the cracks.
Oh, and don't even get me started on Unions.