April 2011 Moms

"The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding"

Has anyone else read this/currently reading this?  I'm almost all the way through, and while I've found it very informational and helpful, I can't help but feel like I'm a jerk for even considering using medication during birth.  The book makes it seem so BAD for the baby and that I'd be a horrible mother for even trying to have an IV for fluids or, God forbid, an epidural.  Anyone else get this vibe?

I have a hard time with books/authors that are super judgey/one-sided.  Any other breastfeeding books that might be a little more in the 'middle'?

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  • I don't have any other books for you to read. I just wanted to say don't feel guilty about the choices you're making. You can only do what you feel is best for you and your LO in these specific circumstances.
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  • imageSarahL77:
    I don't have any other books for you to read. I just wanted to say don't feel guilty about the choices you're making. You can only do what you feel is best for you and your LO in these specific circumstances.

    this =)

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  • I'm reading it right now, too. I just started yesterday. I agree with what Sarah said. I'm going to *try* to go med-free, but if I can't, I can't. I've had lots of goals in my life that I haven't accomplished, and I'm still trucking on, you know?

    By the way, so cool you used to live in Bend! :-)

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  • imageSarahL77:
    I don't have any other books for you to read. I just wanted to say don't feel guilty about the choices you're making. You can only do what you feel is best for you and your LO in these specific circumstances.

    This.  My sister had two med-free child births (one of them was at home) and she has a hard time not pushing her ways onto other people..so all of the books she gave me with my first pregnancy were totally one sided on the medication issue.

    I personally was against any IV narcotic pain meds during labor, but I was induced and I did end up getting an epidural after 10.5 hrs of labor.  Bottom line is my sister wasn't induced and her birth experiences were totally different than mine and I did what was right for me.  I successfully nursed my DD for 13 months..she has never had a drop of formula in her life, so while being educated on BFing is important it doesn't mean that you fail for not going totally natural for you birth.

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  • Yes, I found that book to be way too, well, fanatical. I much preferred Heading Home with Your Newborn and The Nursing Mother's Companion.
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  • I just finished "Birth" by Tina Cassidy.  She is pro-med-free birth, but she's also pretty moderate.  The book is more of a historical assessment of birth - how women in different cultures have given birth over time, how modern labor practices evolved, etc.  I really, really enjoyed it.  It did not change my mind as far as my birth: I'm going to try for a med-free birth, but if I feel like I need an epidural, I'll get one.  I don't feel super strongly one way or the other, even after reading this book.  It was, in fact, comforting/interesting to discover how women through the ages have tried to reduce the pain of childbirth. 
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  • Thanks for the encouragement.  I, too, am hoping to go med-free but if I need that epidural, I'm going to go for it.  After reading the book, I can't help but have minor freak-outs like "OMG if my kid doesn't gain enough weight or if he's fussy or if he sleeps too much it's all because I had the damn epidural blah blah blah".  My mom went med free (by accident) with my sister and I, and had the epi with my brother, and I was FF, and they were BF, and we all turned out great and were "great babies" she said, so I know it's not all true... but I can't help but have that little nagging voice in the back of my mind!!
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    By the way, so cool you used to live in Bend! :-)

    My IL's still live there, and have for years... I can't wait to go back and visit!  I just love the high desert in the summer.  Winter is a totally different story.  I hate snow.

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  • What is supposedly wrong with having an IV for fluids?  I understand the meds and an epi, but I've never heard anything about not having fluids.
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    What is supposedly wrong with having an IV for fluids?  I understand the meds and an epi, but I've never heard anything about not having fluids.

    According to the book (and I'm writing this from memory since it's in the other room) it can make mom swell, which can make her breasts swell, which can make it harder to nurse at first - and also, baby retains the fluid so when they weigh him/her for the first time, he/she will weigh HEAVIER than they actually are, and then after they lose that fluid and then the normal weight a baby loses, they'll seem underweight and the doctor is more likely to  suggest supplementing with formula - which apparently increases their risk for food allergies and jacks up their digestive tract for life.

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    imageBree4011:
    What is supposedly wrong with having an IV for fluids?  I understand the meds and an epi, but I've never heard anything about not having fluids.

    According to the book (and I'm writing this from memory since it's in the other room) it can make mom swell, which can make her breasts swell, which can make it harder to nurse at first - and also, baby retains the fluid so when they weigh him/her for the first time, he/she will weigh HEAVIER than they actually are, and then after they lose that fluid and then the normal weight a baby loses, they'll seem underweight and the doctor is more likely to  suggest supplementing with formula - which apparently increases their risk for food allergies and jacks up their digestive tract for life.

     

    Interesting.  Would have never thought of all that. 

  • wow I had the epi and iv fluids and my dd is ebf  she never lost weight after birth and at her two week check up she has gained nearly a pound so I don't buy any of that.
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  • I personally found that all BFing books that I read were anti-medication (and I 100% plan on getting an epidural). But they also suggest nursing until the baby self weans, talk about nursing a 2-year-old,  neither of which I think I'm going to do, etc. I take the information away that I need and file the rest away for now. I read this one, So That's What They're For and The Nursing Mother's Companion (hated it). Womanly Art was my favorite.

    In general that's the philosophy I take away from most parenting books. I love the Baby Book by Dr Sears, but I don't intend to have my baby sleeping with me until he's 2+. But I like a lot of his principles and plan to parent based on that. 

    All authors are biased on every issue, no matter how much they try not to be. The only book I really feel like presented both sides of the issue was "Coming Home With Your Newborn." Humans are biased and you have to research the issues from both sides and decide what works for you. I know plenty of women who got epidurals and had no problem breastfeeding. I'm not worried about it.

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  • Yes I understand what you are saying.  I felt like it was being pretty critical too, but I just chose to ignore all that.  I felt it was a great resource for breastfeeding advice and I just focused on that part of it.  I also have the book Breastfeeding Made Simple.  I just kind of skimmed through it since I had already read the other one first and it seemed pretty comprehensive.  Don't let it make you feel bad.  Every single person and labor experience is different and it is up to us to make the decisions that are right for us.  It would be nice to go med-free but if I need something, I'm not going to feel bad.  Good luck!
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