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I think I lived in a bubble growing up
So after looking at the interviews about the new Glee show and how they are saying the 8:00 is not appropriate for teens/kids since they are adding more party scenes and kissing gay scenes. I do agree it isn't for the 8:00 for my child to watch (like 8-16years old). You know they show the drinking scene of the girls taking belly shots off eachother. They interviewed the Glee casts and they say I don't know why they would change the time because they experience that in everyday life. I never saw that kind of stuff growing up. That kind of stuff was wild college years. Now I know I am a bit older than most of you gals on here (not everyone) and graduated HS in 92.
So I guess my question is did you younger gals experience all this when you were growing up--meaning middle and HS?
What the heck is it going to be like when our kids are older?
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Re: I think I lived in a bubble growing up
Yeah, um, I was a total goody-two-shoes in high school. I sorta knew some of that stuff was there because I went to a couple parties, but I didn't do any of it myself. I graduated in '95. There were a several kids (who had siblings in HS too), who were notorious for throwing parties - most were football players and cheerleaders. The hoods threw their own parties that probably involved more Budweiser and cigs than anything else. My black friends (our school was about 50/50) threw their own parties - there might've been a little weed and the like.
But the insane stuff was going down at the football player parties. This one family of kids (there were three of them in HS at the same time due to being held back, etc.), they had massive parties at their house every game night. Mom would be in the house taking visitors and there'd be 100 kids out on the front lawn drinking The Beast and MD20/20. There was also a tent set up in the yard for those interested in a little privacy before shacking up. Cops were rarely called because they lived in an unincorporated part of Clayton Co. that was mostly country. Those parties tended to draw folks across racial lines BECAUSE they were so nutty.
I heard about other people at school drinking and smoking pot but I never once saw it. I think a huge part of it is the group of friends you hang out with. I graduated HS in 2002.
I also think that the attitude of "oh well they're going to do it anyway so why bother trying to hide it" is a very very lazy attitude. We should be trying to normalize healthy behaviors, not contributing to the peer pressure portrayal that "everyone is doing it".
I graduated in '90 and did see lots of drinking and crazy stuff.
No body shots until college though.
I graduated in '98 and yes, there was plenty of drinking, partying, smoking and sex going around in our circles. No hardcore drugs though.
I was just talking last night about the frustrations I have with TV shows like Glee and even worse, Top 20 Music. My 8 year old is completely exposed to that kind of stuff. She wants to watch Glee because she likes to hear the songs. But it is not appropriate for her to see couples (same sex or not) tongue kissing or girls doing belly shots. But it isn't just Glee, I feel like there are shows that come on Nickelodeon at 8:00 that are totally inappropriate, like George Lopez, My Wife and Kids and Everybody Hates Chris.
I was horrified yesterday when Rihanna's song S&M came on the radio when we were in the car together.
Cause I may be bad, but I'm perfectly good at it
Sex in the air, I don't care, I love the smell of it
Sticks and stones may break my bones
But chains and whips excite me
Maybe I'm ignorant but from what I can remember those songs weren't played on the radio, those were the ones you secretly heard once your parents bought you the CD! And I sorta think that's the difference. It's one thing for parents to give a stamp of approval on something and say 'yes, you can watch this show, or No, that movie is inappropriate' and then allow your kids to have a chance to filter some stuff with their own judgement. I don't want to be overbearing and try to control every.single.thing. my kid does once she is a little older.
I also graduated in 92' and went to HS in California and here. I believe there was an element in high school that did drink and smoke under age, however it wasn't as rampant as now. There were certain things that were just still considered taboo: getting wasted wasn't cute, being promiscuous or loose, and we called pot smokers, stoners. Also my parents were very involved in knowing who I hung out with so maybe that helped.
I had no idea what a body shot was until college years and even then, it wasn't something myself or my friends would do. Now things are just too mainstream and accepted. I work near a high school and happened to be at the gas station when school let out yesterday- there were a TON of cigarette purchases. There were guys and girls there, but their interactions seem much more sexually slanted than I recall.
I saw a lot in high school...and yes, body shots, sex, weed and other drugs too. And pretty hard liquor. I grew up in Denver and the high school I went to was a very "rich" school. I think I was one of the only kids who didn't get a BMW for my 16th birthday and several of the kids parents were pro-athletes.
I went to a lot of the wild parties but didn't get as crazy as others...but I wasn't a saint.
We moved my senior year of high school to outside Greenville, SC and that is where I saw even more drugs like coke and stuff (never touched it).
Which is why I'm putting my children in a bubble.
Oh, I graduated in '95.
Abigail Taylor 09.18.2008
I wanted to add that I never thought about it since Glee is a favorite show of mine, but all things considered, yes, Glee is way too "adult" for a minor audience and I don't think I would let my kids watch it before high school age and I don't even know if they would be watching it at all given some recent material. The gay stuff doesn't bother me (I hope to teach tolerance) but the teen sex (either way), drinking, and other poor behaviors does - like the gf/bf scheming to get to the top of the prom queen/prom king food chain and messing with people's feelings. They should probably push it to 9PM or tone it down. I'm not sure my parents would have ever let me watch that under 18 in the mid nineties.
I don't let P watch too much tv at all period. She has Disney/Pixar movies and a couple Sesame Streets and Barney videos. I am hoping to stave off the TV stuff as long as possible. I just tell her "no" when she wants to watch TV and tell her to play with her toys or outside instead. DVD is a "treat". I don't want her seeing commercials for shows she might want to watch but are age-inappropriate or for junk food or toys she doesn't need. I plan to continue this policy and we don't have cable anyway. I miss my shows a lot but keeping the TV off has been great.
I graduated in '94 and I didn't get out much because my parents were tyrants. But I heard about things that went on at parties on the weekends. Lots of coke in my hs, pot was as common as cigarettes and lots of drinking. Everyone except me was having sex and there was a huge lesbian phase that the girls in my school went through. Even then, it seemed contrived to me like they were just trying to be something, I wasn't sure what.
I don't remember this kind of tv however. I remember around the time I graduated I was watching My So Called Life and Raeann would drink and Angela so desperately wanted to sleep with Jordan Catalano and that was the first time I remember watching a show geared towards me that was not over the top goody two shoes. (And I do remember that it used to annoy me that the teenagers on prime time shows did not swear when they got mad because all teenagers swear. Its ridiculous to pretend they don't.)
If my kids never watch MTV I'd be happy. Talk about glorifying sex, drugs and early parenthood. What kind of message does it send with the teen mom shows when those teen moms are paid tons of money to be on the show? And that show skins? Oh my God. never. My kids will never watch that kind of tv.
I partied in high school- probably a little too much...and I hope my kids are nothing like me in that respect!! There were drugs, alcohol, etc. I think it's in every school.
MTV, on the other hand is ridiculous. They have Teen Mom- trying to show kids not have babies when they are young- and then show Skins- which is all about kids having sex. Talk about mixed messages!!! I plan to keep my kids in a bubble as well. I have even talked to my husband about home schooling...because as a teacher- it is crazy what goes on even in elementary school. He thinks I'm nuts..but the world is so crazy!!!
I graduated in 2002 and there was all of that at my HS. I didn't even try drinking until I was a senior. And I started kdg late so I was actually already 19 at the time. I was more of a goody goody up until then. It definitely depended on the crowd you ran with but I will also say that it wasn't a big deal with my friends to not do it either. Who wants to be sober and hang out with a bunch of drunk/high idiots though? There were definitely some way slutty girls at my HS. I remember this one girl who would always show us her Agenda that we all had to have. In the calendar part she had a star or something on each day that she had sex and there were tons of them. I remember thinking she was out of her mind. Honestly I really don't see what private school is going to do to help with this. I went to a private school my first two years or HS and then public school the last two. There were just as many bad kids in private school and all of the same circles and crowds. I think it's more important to teach your children how to deal and make their own good choices.
I loved loved loved My So Called Life.
I agree. I graduated in 1999 and probably could have scored some drugs/booze it I were into that, but my social circle was "too cool" for that sort of stuff.
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