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NTR: the soaring gas prices...

... really really SUCK! If it really reaches the $4-5/a gallon I will not be able to afford my commute to school. I am freaking out! Why isn't the goverment jumping in and doing something to stop this increase?
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Re: NTR: the soaring gas prices...

  • What do you suggest they do - invade Libya?
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  • They aren't doing anything about it because they are forcing consumers' hand to investigate and utilize alternative energy sources and/or buy electric cars, i.e. Chevy Volt from Government Motors.
  • I hear ya. Gas here is $3.20 a gallon for regular. I drive 25 miles each way to and from work everyday. If it keeps rising I will not be able to afford the gas to get to work, and will there for lose my job. I think the government did put a $.20 cap on how much gas prices can rise in one week, but Iam not sure.

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  • Not to be negative Nancy, but the world is running out of oil.  I wouldn't expect gas to be affordable (or anything made from oil) for too much longer.  DH and I have a plan to get electric cars and make our home so energy efficient, we'll be off the grid.
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  • Maybe if gas prices keep going up, people will actually look for ways to cut their gas consumption instead of complaining about having to pay more.

     I'm not usually one to say things like this, but it bothers me when people 'in the states' complain about gas prices. $3.20 (a figure taken from a PP) for a gallon isn't bad at all compared to the usual price of gas for us (usually around $1.20/litre - so $4.80/gallon). Especially since the US imports more oil from Canada than any other country in the world by almost double.

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    Maybe if gas prices keep going up, people will actually look for ways to cut their gas consumption instead of complaining about having to pay more.

     I'm not usually one to say things like this, but it bothers me when people 'in the states' complain about gas prices. $3.20 (a figure taken from a PP) for a gallon isn't bad at all compared to the usual price of gas for us (usually around $1.20/litre - so $4.80/gallon). Especially since the US imports more oil from Canada than any other country in the world by almost double.

    This. Gas today is $123.1c/L today, so it'll cost me around $50 to fill my 45L tank - which is one of the standard smaller tanks. I drive a Saturn SL1, if that gives you any idea of how small the tank is.

    Also, the Chevy Volt is made by GENERAL Motors, not Government Motors.

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    imagedaisy_dueller:

    Maybe if gas prices keep going up, people will actually look for ways to cut their gas consumption instead of complaining about having to pay more.

     I'm not usually one to say things like this, but it bothers me when people 'in the states' complain about gas prices. $3.20 (a figure taken from a PP) for a gallon isn't bad at all compared to the usual price of gas for us (usually around $1.20/litre - so $4.80/gallon). Especially since the US imports more oil from Canada than any other country in the world by almost double.

    This. Gas today is $123.1c/L today, so it'll cost me around $50 to fill my 45L tank - which is one of the standard smaller tanks. I drive a Saturn SL1, if that gives you any idea of how small the tank is.

    Also, the Chevy Volt is made by GENERAL Motors, not Government Motors.

    And that's just the regular price of gas...not on an upswing, when it could cost $1.40/L ($5.60/gallon)

  • imagedaisy_dueller:

    Maybe if gas prices keep going up, people will actually look for ways to cut their gas consumption instead of complaining about having to pay more.

     I'm not usually one to say things like this, but it bothers me when people 'in the states' complain about gas prices. $3.20 (a figure taken from a PP) for a gallon isn't bad at all compared to the usual price of gas for us (usually around $1.20/litre - so $4.80/gallon). Especially since the US imports more oil from Canada than any other country in the world by almost double.

    Word! You all in the States need to shut it with your cheap gas ;)

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  • There really isn't anything the government can do for immediate relief. Alternative fuels, compact development, and mass transit are the key to the future but people want we want and until there is a change in the American mindset this will never happen.
  • Our gas prices are already subsidized like crazy by the government.  We haven't ever paid true gas prices.  In London it's about $8 per gallon. 
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  • Thanks for the empathy, ladies. I can barely afford a tank of gas for $40-50 gas. Please tell me how I am going to afford a $30,000 electric car?!? Not everyone can just go buy an electric car. It's a great long term goal for the US, but short term it is just not realistic. What is realistic is that if gas prices reach $4-5 gallon I won't be able to finish college so how am I supposed to buy an electric car without a degree level job?
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    Thanks for the empathy, ladies. I can barely afford a tank of gas for $40-50 gas. Please tell me how I am going to afford a $30,000 electric car?!? Not everyone can just go buy an electric car. It's a great long term goal for the US, but short term it is just not realistic. What is realistic is that if gas prices reach $4-5 gallon I won't be able to finish college so how am I supposed to buy an electric car without a degree level job?

    this is our situation as well.  we simply, hands down, cannot afford a newer car w/better gas mileage, if we could we would.  i think most people would buy a car that got better gas mileage if they could afford to. 

      dh has to drive 67 miles each way to work every day because it was the best job he could find and we live out in the middle of nowhere bc it was the most affordable housing we could find. 

    if gas gets to $4+ i honestly don't know what we will do.

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  • It's all about economics. If the government steps in a puts a price ceiling on gas than there will be a shortage in the market. This would result in long lines and not enough gas to go around. It is what it is
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    As a British person living in America I am always amused by what you think is expensive gas.  The average price of a gallon of gas in the UK is about $8 at current conversion rates.  $4 per gallon here in the States = not expensive!
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  • imageToledoDeux:
    What do you suggest they do - invade Libya?

    This.  It's nothing against you.  Gas is a staple, you will have to cut costs somewhere else.   And this isn't something our government should meddle in. Markets are (somewhat) free.   Price caps would cause supply issues.  

    I do hope they will go down soon.  They were up 10 cents today from yesterday.   


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  • I can see my opinion is vey unpopular but I stand by it. To those who can just say "buy an electric car" or "that's just the way it is", I am jealous. Obviously, the increase in gas prices is not seriously effecting you. However, please at least acknowledge that there are millions of Americans out there that it does effect. Millions of Americans won't be able to afford gas to drive to work. They will not be able to work for the paycheck that puts a roof over there head and food on their plates. So, fine, ignore the problem, let gas prices go up, but when welfare increase dramatically, do not complain. Oh and one last thing... When gas prices rises dramatically, it plays a domino effect on the economy. Prices on all other items will have to go up too. But again, your all right, it's just the way it is. Oh well.
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    There really isn't anything the government can do for immediate relief. Alternative fuels, compact development, and mass transit are the key to the future but people want we want and until there is a change in the American mindset this will never happen.

    yeah, it doesn't help anything when people complain but then pay for gas anyway. stop using it. find alternative transportation. ride your bike, the bus, the train....

    but I do wish we had better public transportation. There is literally no mass transit DH can take to/from work.

  • image4maddison:
    I can see my opinion is vey unpopular but I stand by it. To those who can just say "buy an electric car" or "that's just the way it is", I am jealous. Obviously, the increase in gas prices is not seriously effecting you. However, please at least acknowledge that there are millions of Americans out there that it does effect. Millions of Americans won't be able to afford gas to drive to work. They will not be able to work for the paycheck that puts a roof over there head and food on their plates. So, fine, ignore the problem, let gas prices go up, but when welfare increase dramatically, do not complain. Oh and one last thing... When gas prices rises dramatically, it plays a domino effect on the economy. Prices on all other items will have to go up too. But again, your all right, it's just the way it is. Oh well.

    Because of the increase in gas prices, we are spending an extra $40 a month on gas. If $40 a month breaks your budget, the problem is not the price of gas.

  • Ok, let's say our government decides that our limit is $100 dollar per barrel.  All the while, Europe, Canada and every other country is willing to pay $150 per barrel. Guess where the they are going to sell oil? Not here!   Another option, do you want to start a war and take over the middle east?  

    It will effect me but like I said I will cut costs somewhere else.  Gas is staple. Got a smart phone? down size.  Got internet?  Get rid of it.  Got cable?  Can live without it! Try to use public transport. It is more important for you to get to school or work than chat on the bump!

    And please, take economics!  


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  • LOL -this has nothing to do with your opinion on the price of gas being "unpopular." Yes, it sucks. But you are demanding that "the government" do something about this, right now. And I ask you yet again: what is it that you think the govt has the power to do in the short-term?
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    image4maddison:
    I can see my opinion is vey unpopular but I stand by it. To those who can just say "buy an electric car" or "that's just the way it is", I am jealous. Obviously, the increase in gas prices is not seriously effecting you. However, please at least acknowledge that there are millions of Americans out there that it does effect. Millions of Americans won't be able to afford gas to drive to work. They will not be able to work for the paycheck that puts a roof over there head and food on their plates. So, fine, ignore the problem, let gas prices go up, but when welfare increase dramatically, do not complain. Oh and one last thing... When gas prices rises dramatically, it plays a domino effect on the economy. Prices on all other items will have to go up too. But again, your all right, it's just the way it is. Oh well.

    Because of the increase in gas prices, we are spending an extra $40 a month on gas. If $40 a month breaks your budget, the problem is not the price of gas.

    we are probably up to $80 more a month. So what is that in a year if prices stay where they are? Under $1000. You can find that money in your budget somewhere I bet.
  • After living in Germany for 5 years I no longer complain.  Yeah it sucks that gas is jumping up and making everyone have to spend more each month.  It does affect me, I am a SAHM not exactly by choice, I am going to school, and my husband is getting medically discharged from the Army-over 2 years before we thought he would be getting out.  I am a nervous wreck but it is what it is.  Oh, forgot to add that we have to drive half way across the country to go back to our hometown once he is out.  Things are already tight with us and I know it will just get worse before it gets better.  The government can't exactly do anything about it.  We in the US actually have it pretty good compared to other countries.
  • This post is pissing me off! I am a college student who already unable to make end meets and I made a post to vent about how the increasing gas prices are really really hurting my family. For those of you who say it is my budgeting skills, it's not. Trust me. It's not! I am barely buying the basics! So please think before you type. I have to commute 120 miles a day to get to and from my full time internship. To the people who live in other countries, I am sorry that gas is so high in your country. I don't know anything about your areas cost of living. If gas was $8, I would be unable to drive. I do not have access to public transportation or have the option to ride a bike, walk, etc because of my mileage. Just curious, how do people cope? But to the Americans on this board, shame on you for judging me. Gas is a very serious issue. Countries go to war over it. The government needs to come up with some type of short term plan. That's why we put them in office! To think and create plans that help our country. They need to get off their rich bottoms and be proactive!
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  • Well I will say that I feel for you and agree that all of the basic items we must use constantly, including gas go up at a much higher rate then what the average income does.  My family lives in a sem-rural small town area and there are NO public transportation options and it is not physically possible for DH and I to ride bikes to work.  We try to live well within our means, have a garden, get pork and beef from a friend who raises them, hunt, and fish to provide our other meat, possibly go out to dinner every couple of months.  Our only outstanding debt is our mortgage.  Things are not terrible, but they are tight.  I HATE feeling like it is hardship to buy special things for the kids at holidays/birthdays.  We make things nice for them, but definitely on the minimal side.  I understand how you feel and you can only work so much.  We had kids for a reason, to spend time with them and you can't do that from work.
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    This post is pissing me off! I am a college student who already unable to make end meets and I made a post to vent about how the increasing gas prices are really really hurting my family. For those of you who say it is my budgeting skills, it's not. Trust me. It's not! I am barely buying the basics! So please think before you type. I have to commute 120 miles a day to get to and from my full time internship. To the people who live in other countries, I am sorry that gas is so high in your country. I don't know anything about your areas cost of living. If gas was $8, I would be unable to drive. I do not have access to public transportation or have the option to ride a bike, walk, etc because of my mileage. Just curious, how do people cope? But to the Americans on this board, shame on you for judging me. Gas is a very serious issue. Countries go to war over it. The government needs to come up with some type of short term plan. That's why we put them in office! To think and create plans that help our country. They need to get off their rich bottoms and be proactive!

    You need to stop taking logic so personally.  

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  • For the third fcking time: WHAT DO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO? Cap prices? (bad idea.). Tap into strategic reserves so you can save 50 cents a gallon for a couple months, and than go right back to where it is - oh but then our reserves are gone? Drill in ANWR? While I loathe that idea, even if it happened, it would not affect gas prices right now in the slightest. Ooh, I know, we could invade volatile Middle Eastern countries, impose democracy, and then steal their oil. That always works.

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    to the American on this board, shame on you for judging me. Gas is a very serious issue. Countries go to war over it. The government needs to come up with some type of short term plan. That's why we put them in office! To think and create plans that help our country. They need to get off their rich bottoms and be proactive!

    I disagree.   I am not trying to be mean; I am trying to explain.   I don't think it?s the government's job to relegate "or create plans" to lower the price of gas.  We are a capitalist society (look up laissez-fair); we rely on OTHER COUNTRIES and the (somewhat) FREE MARKET to control gas prices.  Sure, we could drill here.  Currently, there is ban on that and it would literally take AN ACT OF CONGRESS to change that but that would be very short term gain and once it?s gone; its gone.   Furthermore, has anything the government ever done economically gone over smoothly without backlash--they regulate healthcare, it's a mess!  Social Security?  Mess.  Our country isn't rich.  The deficit is huge.   Our government can try to promote peace in the Middle East but that is influenced by so many outside forces that, it?s not a guarantee. 

    This isn't about you or any individual Americans.  It's about what's best for our country as a whole.  Yes, its best that we have lower gas prices but its even better that we have a good relationship with the Middle East, its even better that we have a the right to free trade, etc.  You are taking this too personally.  There are several things that YOU can do to help yourself increase the amount of $$ brought in or drop some costs (examples: get a job, take time off school/getting- an education is not a right, chose a closer school, move closer to school, drop some unnessary costs, etc).    This is much more manageable at the individual level .  Futhermore, the market will regulate itself (even bettter without govn't intervention).  When the cost of gas goes up, often the cost of other goods go down.  On the nest, there is a board called money matters, these girls are great at helping with budget issues.  Try asking over there. 

    A wise man once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you BUT what you can do for your country."

     


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  • image4maddison:
    This post is pissing me off! I am a college student who already unable to make end meets and I made a post to vent about how the increasing gas prices are really really hurting my family. For those of you who say it is my budgeting skills, it's not. Trust me. It's not! I am barely buying the basics! So please think before you type. I have to commute 120 miles a day to get to and from my full time internship. To the people who live in other countries, I am sorry that gas is so high in your country. I don't know anything about your areas cost of living. If gas was $8, I would be unable to drive. I do not have access to public transportation or have the option to ride a bike, walk, etc because of my mileage. Just curious, how do people cope? But to the Americans on this board, shame on you for judging me. Gas is a very serious issue. Countries go to war over it. The government needs to come up with some type of short term plan. That's why we put them in office! To think and create plans that help our country. They need to get off their rich bottoms and be proactive!
    When did it become the government's job to fix every American's money problems? Gas is alreasy subsidized. We are lucky for that! There is really nothing can be done about it right now and it will probably nevergo back down to prices we had 10 years ago when people were complaining abortion almost $2 a gallon. I'm sorry you have trouble affording gas and I understand its not as easy as finding a news place to live closer to work and school. Have you thought about online courses or are they even offered for your major? Do you already combine all your trips when you are out so you don't have to keep driving back into town? Have you checked the tire pressure in your tires and xo you Jesus your car properly maintained? Both help with obtaining optimal mileage. Do you think I like dropping $80/week at the gas station? No way, it blows. Get a cash back credit card that will earn you money on gas purchases and pay it back each month. Some stations provide discounts for paying cash. Take advantage of this.
  • imageToledoDeux:
    LOL -this has nothing to do with your opinion on the price of gas being "unpopular." Yes, it sucks. But you are demanding that "the government" do something about this, right now. And I ask you yet again: what is it that you think the govt has the power to do in the short-term?

    Maybe she's confusing President Obama with the Wizard of Oz. It happens.

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  • imageSus77:
    As a British person living in America I am always amused by what you think is expensive gas.  The average price of a gallon of gas in the UK is about $8 at current conversion rates.  $4 per gallon here in the States = not expensive!

    The UK has always paid more for it's petro than the US. The difference is that in the states we rely heavily on our automobiles. Our country is made of highways & interstates. Mom & pop shops are becoming extinct here in the US so we are forced to drive further to stores we could have walked to in years past.

    I think that for those that cannot afford to get electric cars or more economical ones, will have to find other ways to make up that expense. Schooling can be done remotely now. Not for all schooling but for some. Look into that. Ride share to stores with friends or neighbors when running errands. Shop at super stores so you don't have to make a ton of stops. 

    It sucks but we are in a time where we need to get creative to survive. Our life of lux here in the US, be it small ones for most of us, is coming to an end. It's a time we all go old school & start using the recourses we have in smarter ways.  

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  • I feel your pain... I really do. So does everyone else. I am also a student so I understand having things be tight. I had to cut down my hours as a student and get a part time job. It sucks but it is what it is. Can you maybe look into doing something like that?
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    imageSus77:
    As a British person living in America I am always amused by what you think is expensive gas.  The average price of a gallon of gas in the UK is about $8 at current conversion rates.  $4 per gallon here in the States = not expensive!

    The UK has always paid more for it's petro than the US. The difference is that in the states we rely heavily on our automobiles. Our country is made of highways & interstates. Mom & pop shops are becoming extinct here in the US so we are forced to drive further to stores we could have walked to in years past.

    I think that for those that cannot afford to get electric cars or more economical ones, will have to find other ways to make up that expense. Schooling can be done remotely now. Not for all schooling but for some. Look into that. Ride share to stores with friends or neighbors when running errands. Shop at super stores so you don't have to make a ton of stops. 

    It sucks but we are in a time where we need to get creative to survive. Our life of lux here in the US, be it small ones for most of us, is coming to an end. It's a time we all go old school & start using the recourses we have in smarter ways.  

    Seriously.

    And it frankly pisses me off when the biggest problem we seem to have to complain about in this country is gas prices, when people in the countries who supply the world with oil are fighting for basic freedoms.

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