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Babies on the Brain
If you think it's really "In God's Time..."
Then what if it never happened? Would you be totally cool with that? Would you try IF treatment, and thus deliberately try to thwart God's time?
I'm just a curious l'il agnostic skeptic over here ... 
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Re: If you think it's really "In God's Time..."
Ya think???? LOL
Yes and no. While I want to be in control, I do know that I don't always get what I want. Regarding IF treatment, I think of it as just another avenue to approach. If its not in Gods plans then it won't happen. I don't mind your question, as I have thought about this many many times. And I still do.
I know this is reference to someone who said something kind of stupid, but it comes across as kind of mocking to people that believe things do happen in God's time. I don't know if you meant it to be. I would think not.
In my opinion, God created medical interventions, so that would be included in my "in God's time". If it didn't happen, I would think that God would provide me with a child to adopt.
Just because someone thinks God has a plan for them, does not mean that they can't get frustrated that that plan may take longer than expected or a different path than what they thought to be ideal.
And with that, it's time for me to go home. Ta ta!
No, I'm not trying to mock anything.
As a skeptical agnostic, I just really don't understand that mindset.
I think that God created intelligent men (and women) and He gives us free will... what does that mean? That means that doctors and scientists find ways to help with IF and we have the free will to exercise the option to use it.
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. it's really not until you go through somethimg like this that those thoughts go through your head. I don't know if there's a reason why HE took my babies. I will not be cool with if it never happened. I was thisclose last time. It's also kind of hard to think it was in "Gods time" when you are married to an atheist who will throatpunch people when they tell us that.
If we have to we will seek IF treatment. We aren't there yet.
I think it's a combination of God's plan and your planning.
It's one of my pet peeves when people think that by praying God will miraculously hand them things. Nobody on this board is that way.
But I have had many an argument with some people who say things like, "I'm praying for a better job, a higher salary, etc.,"
When you ask them what they are doing to change their predicament, you get the "if it's God's plan then it will be." Okay, but God's plan or not, you still have to go to an interview! Sheesh, that mentality annoys me!
Just because someone thinks God has a plan for them, does not mean that they can't get frustrated that that plan may take longer than expected or a different path than what they thought to be ideal.
^Well said.
Ditto to this. We don't really want to do any IF treatments either, but that's just us. We'd rather adopt and keep trying on our own without medical intervention. Not saying there's anything wrong with the IF treatments, it's just not for me.
In addition to what everyone else said, in some ways I find it a little funny, because no matter what how you concieve (or adopt), isn't it really on God's time anyway? It's not something you control.
By the same token, I don't fully understand those who are offended by the statement "Blessed to be X weeks, Y days pregnant." I can see how it might seem hurtful to those who have been trying awhile, but that isn't the intention of the statement. :shrugs:
I was raised a Catholic but I also have had my faith shaken. I don't like however that IF treatments are"frowned" on by the Catholic church. What do they want me to do? What if there's a problem with me? I want to know now instead of getting pg again and losing that baby too. DH and I have been talking about going to the Christian church where we got married. We love the pastor there and don't feel we are being preached at. He thinks it will help with our relationship which amazes me because like I have said he was always leaning to the no belief side.
When we had our last miscarriage, it basically broke him and made him a non believer even more. It's been really hard to get him to see the light at the end of the tunnel...well, maybe it's actually me a little bit more then him. He thinks every month that this is IT....we are pregnant. In my mind I don't know when/if it will happen. I don't like to say it's in Gods hands/time.
No, I get you. My faith has been shaken at times too.
I'm Catholic and converted to an Episcopalian church. I have faith in God and have seen many blessings in my lifetime. However I do believe that God gave us the knowledge to use and apply medicine. I did IVF and I don't think I should be shunned because I got a little help. Wanting to have your own children over adopting was our choice and luckily it happened. Had we not been able to have our own children, we wouldn't have adopted. Maybe for others adoption is okay.
There was an acquaintance of mine who had no idea that I was dealing with infertility and I didn't care to fill her in. She kept insisting I "talk to God" about this and "ask him for what I wanted". Well I did everything for 5 years - I lost weight, exercised, stopped stressing, prayed, etc... to no avail.
Let's not criticize each other because we don't believe, or because we believe, because we didn't use IVF, or did use IVF. To each his own.
THANK you!
I agree with this completely.
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I didn't see where someone said that, but I'll go back and read. In our case we're not interested in the IF treatments for other reasons. It has nothing to do with God. I don't see a problem with doing any of them, and I don't think that it messes with God's will at all. We just don't want to go down that road.