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August 2011 Moms
SIDS
Since I'm batting 1000 today I guess I should keep going. I keep hearing everyone talk about SIDS. omg don't put your kid on a pillow they'll suffocate, omg don't do this Sids... but the truth is no one knows what causes SIDS. If it was soft pillows it would be called Soft pillow death syndrome. Doctors and researchers only assume that certain things have effect on the child and cannot pin point any one thing specifically.
I looked this info up on E-medicine health
SIDs-network.org
So saying a child will have this because they sleep next to you is just scaring the crap out of the rest of us lol.
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Re: SIDS
You are right that an exact cause has not been pinpointed, but several correlations can be made when looking at the circumstances surrounding the deaths. I think that the precautions that are widespread and publicized by the medical community should be heeded. If not, you MAY be taking an unnecessary risk.
FWIW, a friend of mine lost her baby to SIDS a few years ago, at 4 months, and it was awful. She took every precaution and it still happened, but she still takes those same precautions with her new baby.
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
SIDS does not equal suffocation, this is true.
That doesn't mean that the warnings about pillows, blankets and boppies aren't true. Suffocation is a huge cause of infant death as well.
Right. In order for it to be renamed something as OP has indicated, I would think there would be some causality involved. As Sarah said, no cause has been found, but there certainly are correlations.
My former SIL lost a baby to SIDS and to be honest, I don't know how many of the precautions she actually took. It was extremely painful for my former inlaws and if taking a few extra precautions helps to prevent that situation, I'm all for it.
Suffocation is a different animal entirely and I had no idea that those boppy pillows are not good for napping considering they advertise for napping.
Maybe you ladies that know all this stuff can post a thread of the dangers a new mom should know. I would love to know more about that since I just found out about the blankets a few weeks ago.
don't go! you're on a roll.
But could you live with yourself if something happened and you DIDN'T take all the precautions? Because I know I couldn't. Not to mention a lot of the precautions about bedding, etc, all apply to a suffocation risk as well. IMO, its silly not to heed them for that reason alone.
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
the boppy packaging and the tag on it says in huge letters: NOT TO BE USED FOR SLEEPING.
and this is the warning on their website: Warning: Possible Suffocation Hazard. Never, ever allow baby to sleep on the Boppy pillow. Do not allow baby to lie face down on a Boppy pillow. Do not use in crib, cradle, bassinet, playpen, or bed. Do not leave baby unattended ? adult supervision is required. Improper use of this product could result in serious injury or death
so I'm not sure where you're seeing them advertised as for sleeping, but it's certainly not a boppy run advertisement.
Back in the day, SIDS was a catch all term. If there wasn't a clear indication of what caused the baby's death, then they would put SIDS on the birth certificate. Now, that they are able to rule out suffication as the cause for many infant deaths, they are able to get to the physiological cause of SIDS. The number of 'true' SIDS death is now lower.
I read a statistic that since the Back to Sleep Campaign started, the rate of SIDS dropped by 80%.
Max born July 25
Big sisters Alex and Layla
I'm wondering if she's referring to the newer Boppy Lounger. I don't have one, so I'm not sure what the tag on that one says....I was confused when reading that, too, but then remembered seeing it on Amazon last week.
that's what I'm saying... let's make a list of all the things for suffocation so that we all know from here on out. I'm not fighting with you guys I'm just not a worry wart about all that stuff. I take safety seriously and would like to know the dangers but I refuse to say because of SIDS.
as far as the boppy thing I'll have to look into it again cause I'm 99% sure i read that it's great for napping.
Girl you crack me up!
I'm not really a worry wart either, but most of the things they tell you not to put in the crib aren't necessary any way. Pretty much anything soft is out like blankets, pillows, stuffed animals, crib quilts, etc. You also aren't supposed to put babies on their stomachs to sleep.
As for the boppy, I'm pretty sure the lounger has the same warning tag on it. Are you maybe thinking of that nap nanny thing?
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
yeah, they definitely are not advertised for sleeping. That being said--I would occasionally lay DS in his (on his back) to nap next to me on the couch while I'd eat lunch/fold laundry, but that was only when he was very young (a month or 2) and not rolling--and I never left him.
Now, my H LOVED that boppy for sleeping--I was always having to remove it from around his neck to use it for feeding ds
Maybe I'm thinking of something else. To be honest there is so much junk out there for babies it's a bit mind bottling (sorry blades of glory joke) oh well.
and don't they change which way the baby should sleep like every year. My friend was telling me her son they said to sleep on his stomach and her daughter was a few years after that and it was her side.
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
They used to tell people to have kids sleep on the stomachs so if they spit up, they wouldn't choke on it. But after many studies they found that once the Back to Sleep was put in place, infant deaths due to suffication dropped significantly.
Max born July 25
Big sisters Alex and Layla
This. True, before they started researching SIDs, there were plenty of babies that were put to bed with blankets pillows and stuffed animals and were fine, but the rates of SIDs deaths was much higher then.
Now that they know what they do, and people are taking precautions, SIDs deaths have decreased significantly. Wouldn't you want to do everything that you can to decrease the chances of your baby dying?
DS#1- Born August 2011
Have you ever looked up the research done by Dr. James McKenna on SIDS and bedsharing? It's amazing how safe bedsharing really is when done right.
https://www.nd.edu/~jmckenn1/lab/index.html
Or you could do some research... you are brining a baby into this world after all. It's not up to other moms to tell you what not to do.
DS#1- Born August 2011
A friend of mine lost her 4 month old to SIDS in the fall.
After seeing what she has gone through and the h*ll she is still going through... I don't care what the research says. I will still be taking every single precaution... and this comes from a mom who still uses a bumper with her toddler DD and from someone who used a sleep positioner with her newborn. Won't be doing that this time around.
natural m/c and d&c at 10 weeks - 1/24/2014
DX w/ hetero C677t and A1298C MTHFR - 3/4/2014
Disclaimer: I apologize but I have a passionate and tainted view on SIDS coming from a NICU and PICU nurse..
SIDS is a "blanket" term used when there is no other explanation of death. I cannot tell you how many Code 33s (neonate in respiratory/cardiac arrest) I have responded to and it was a cobedding situation with either parents or siblings. I will NEVER cobed with my baby. I will NEVER use bumper pads in my baby's crib. I will NEVER place my baby on its tummy to sleep. I will never have big fluffy objects (big blankets, stuffed animals) in my baby's crib. I may have a tainted view on this topic, but I have seen too many babies come to the ER blue and dead with a backstory of cobedding or the parents saying they were on their side against the bumper pad or with the blanket covering their face and they don't know how that could have happened. It is that saddest thing in the world when you cannot save that child's life and it may have been preventable. Sleep sacks, nothing in the crib and no cobedding!!!
"Did you just say...mind bottling??"
"Yeah, mind-bottling. You know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle?"
Kinda related to all this--has anyone seen those monitors that go under the sheets that beep when movement ceases? My uncle got one last summer for his newborn and swore by it--I've only just begun my research into these myself.
Just wondering...it seems like one of these monitors could help allay fears and be considered as a precautionary measure...??
Any thoughts, ladies? TIA.
You're talking about the AngelCare and I LOVE that monitor. I have to purchase a new one for this baby because we now live in Europe and of course our American one won't plug in over here. But I will definitely be using it again. It can register the smallest movements of baby (to include the rise and fall of their back/chest when breathing, so it is very comforting. And I got blessed with the baby who absolutely REFUSED to sleep any other way but on his stomach, and trust me, I tried to get him to sleep on his back but he wouldn't. He would only scream and cry when on his back and after days of that, mama was miserable and sleep deprived and so we bought the AngelCare and tried tummy sleeping and we all got to sleep and I had the peace of mind knowing I would be warned if DS hadn't taken a breath in 15 or 20 seconds. I talked with the pediatrician about it and he was fine with us doing the tummy sleeping knowing that we were using that monitor.
My friend/coworked swears by it too! She said it was the only monitor that allowed her to sleep knowing her baby was still breathing.