Daycare and CDing

melly_mel · February 2011

I am having problems finding a daycare that will CD, even with BG AIOs which would make it really easy on them. I keep getting the "health department won't allow it" excuse.

For any of you that have found a day care center that will agree to CD (or an in-home day care provider), how did you get them to agree to it? Do you have any tips for me? CDing is really important to DH and I and now I'm holding off on building my stash because I'm worried I won't find a care provider that will agree to do it.

flyer23 · February 2011

Have you verified that the health department really won't allow it? I've gotten that excuse before, but I've looked up the daycare licensing regulations in my state and that is NOT true. The only licensing regulation around diapers is that soiled (i.e. poopy) diapers must be placed in a separate bag, which is totally possible with cloth as well as disposables.

Are you looking only at centers? Do you have any opposition to using an in-home and/or a nanny? They might be more accommodating.

engaged07 · February 2011

My daycare was against it at first. As soon as I explained that tossing a dirty diaper into a wet bag is no different than then wrapping up soiled clothes with diaper blowouts for me to take home. They explained the health dept. requires soiled wrapped up so I told them that I would provide a wet bag and they wrap each diaper up as if it is soiled clothing. I told them they simply toss the soiled diaper in a wetbag instead of the trash and it's really nothing different. I think most centers think of cloth diapers as old school with pins and such. They don't realize that things have come a long way. Have you tried bringing in a diaper and show them how similar they are to sposies? Good Luck!

pixy_stix · February 2011

They're lying to you. It's allowable under Minnesota law.

Respond to them that you wouldn't allow your child to stay with someone who is ignorant of the day care regulations and move on.

Law: https://nrckids.org/STATES/MN/mn2.htm

Search for cloth diaper, and it says, "A. An adequate supply of clean diapers must be available for each child and stored in a clean place inaccessible to children. If cloth diapers are used, parents must provide a change of the outer plastic pants for each fecally soiled diaper change. Cloth diapers, except those supplied by a commercial diaper service, and plastic pants, if supplied by parents, must be labeled with the child's name."

It really pisses me off when day cares LIE.

jenny1980 · February 2011

Actually, every place we looked at was fine with CDs. We're in Seattle though, which runs to the crunchy side of things.

DD's school requires that the cover be changed every time (so we use pockets or AIOs for daycare) and that we provide a wetbag for the dipes and that they be taken home each day. They also (generally, it depends a bit on who changes her that day) don't deal with flushing the poop--I go through them when I get home.

I would ask to be referred to your State's health guidelines if that's the excuse they're using. Perhaps also bring in an AIO to show them it's just as easy as using a disposable.

ananas19 · February 2011

I'm in Rochester, and our daycare center does cloth with my DS (although we did run into a few who refused saying laws didn't allow it!)

They have a foot-operated pail, which I line with a wetbag, then I provide a wetbag for each diaper (that's their policy) and take the whole thing home every night. Honestly, I think they like it, the babies in disposables have FAR more blowouts, so they're stuck changing all the clothes, not just a dipe!

yodasmistress · February 2011

I picked a yuppy liberal facility in a progressive neighborhood. Yes

melly_mel · February 2011

Thanks everyone! This is super helpful. I'm going to use some of your tips (and reference the health dept regulations) going forward. I am also trying to look into in-home providers as well. The problem is, most day care centers and in-home providers are telling me they don't have openings until around August 2012. Yes, 2012. So I'm not only worried about finding care in general, I'm worried about finding one that will CD.

superned · February 2011

Even if CDing is technically allowed by your state's licensing regulations, that doesn't mean that the program has to accept CDs. They shouldn't lie about their reasons for not accepting them, but they still are not required to.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, The American Public Health Association, The National Resource Center for Health and Safety in Child Care publish a document called Caring for Our Children that sets the best practice for health and safety in all child care programs. They are not "rules" or "regulations," but rather guidance for programs. The National Association for the Education of Young Children, the body that accredits child care centers, uses these recommendations as the basis for their accreditation criteria addressing health and safety issues.

In the current edition of Caring for Our Children, which is available for free online at the above link, it states that cloth diapers should not be used unless their is a medical reason for their use.

I'm not saying that I agree with CFOC's advice, but I work with child care providers for a living and I refer to this document all.the.time. It's a widely used and widely accepted document.

That said, it is currently undergoing revision and I am REALLY hoping that they will change their recommendations about CDs. The current edition was published in 2002 and I think their recommendations regarding CDs were based only on the use of prefolds and covers.

StephanieDM · February 2011

This link has some helpful tips: https://www.realdiaperassociation.org/daycare/Daycare-tip-sheet.pdf

Definitely bring a CD in to show them. A lot of people are not educated on modern CDs and are picturing flats with pinks and plastic pants.

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