booty pants on girls

someflower6 · February 2011

the other day i put lilly in a pair of pants that had a daisy on the booty. one of my mom- friends was like "that's fine for now, but that's not ok once she's a toddler. you have to teach them young that they can't be dressing like that and it's not ok for young ladies to have designs on their butts." she went on to tell me that she accidentl;y bought her 5 year old a pair of pants with minnie mouse on the booty and refused to let her wear them outside the house.

what are your thoughts on the subject? while i totally agree that SOME kids clothing is completely inappropraite, and i wont be buying any pairs of pants that say "juicy" on the butt for LO, i think cute little things on the booty of pants for young girls is ok. but i also think by a certain age-- maybe puberty?-- it becomes less about being cute and more about drawing unnecessary attention to the behind-area.

what are your thoughts?

Quazel · February 2011

I agree with you 100%. To each their own about the other mother's worry but for me personally, I don't look at my toddler in any sort of sexualized way and don't want to place that concern on him so young.

LLB430 · February 2011

I would never purchase dd pants with something on the bottom. Luckily nobody else has either. If I am not going to let her wear them as a preteen then I certainly am not going to allow it now either. I may be a bit of a prude but I also don't like her to wear any halter top shirts either.

sweetfern · February 2011

I personally won't put anything on DD that has anything on the butt except pockets. DH and I both think it is in bad taste and we are not at all uptight. I also don't care for anything that says princess or diva. Just my personal opinion.

Quazel · February 2011

sweetfern:
I personally won't put anything on DD that has anything on the butt except pockets. DH and I both think it is in bad taste and we are not at all uptight. I also don't care for anything that says princess or diva. Just my personal opinion.

I agree with you regarding the words. However, I don't mind ruffles or a flower that matches the outfit, etc. I guess I feel words=no, design=ok.

pepomntpat · February 2011

Quazel:
I agree with you regarding the words. However, I don't mind ruffles or a flower that matches the outfit, etc. I guess I feel words=no, design=ok.

This!

someflower6 · February 2011

Quazel:

sweetfern:
I personally won't put anything on DD that has anything on the butt except pockets. DH and I both think it is in bad taste and we are not at all uptight. I also don't care for anything that says princess or diva. Just my personal opinion.

I agree with you regarding the words. However, I don't mind ruffles or a flower that matches the outfit, etc. I guess I feel words=no, design=ok.

well the flower design pants were part of a set, but i also don't mind wording on the butt. granted in general i do not like ANYTHING that says "princess" or "diva" on it, or anything else to imply that my LO is spoiled (like "spoiled"), but i think we have a pair that says "i love mommy" and i'm ok with that.

dottymobo · February 2011

I could deal with butt designs until maybe walking, and then, IMO, it's kind of weird and just not cute anyway.

Hmmm.. I may be a hypocrite because I realized that DS has some pajama pants that say "beep beep" on the butt, and I don't have a problem with them. I wouldn't have picked them out myself, though, and he doesn't wear them in public, so maybe I'm still ok?

someflower6 · February 2011

jenniferb123006:
I'm going to be different, but these kinds of pants don't bother me. Addie actually wore a sleeper with a bear head on the butt to DC today. I own several pair of pants with butt-writing myself (they are lounge pants). I'd rather discuss with Addie the kind of message she may be sending with her clothes and let her make her own choices, especially when she's a preteen or teenager.
FWIW, I'm a total nerd and massive prude (and always have been), but that didn't keep me from rocking a pair of skinny leg pleather pants, bright red halter, and stilettos at HS back in the day. Yes, I'm aware of the message that sent, but I'm grateful my parents let me make my own choices. Plus limits like this are just begging for kids to find a way around them. I'd rather Addie feel comfortable embracing her sexuality and understanding how messages are portrayed by her choices than for me to create those limitations that will just be a source of teenage rebellion.

i think all of this is awesome.

someflower6 · February 2011

roxstarrgirl:
aww, I think designs on the booty of babies or toddlers are so cute. DS has tons of them! Ducks, Monkeys, etc... Do you think other mothers give me the side eye for that?

if they're side eyeing you, they're side eyeing me too! i think they're adorable. i love decorated tushies.

sweetfern · February 2011

jenniferb123006:
I'm going to be different, but these kinds of pants don't bother me. Addie actually wore a sleeper with a bear head on the butt to DC today. I own several pair of pants with butt-writing myself (they are lounge pants). I'd rather discuss with Addie the kind of message she may be sending with her clothes and let her make her own choices, especially when she's a preteen or teenager.
FWIW, I'm a total nerd and massive prude (and always have been), but that didn't keep me from rocking a pair of skinny leg pleather pants, bright red halter, and stilettos at HS back in the day. Yes, I'm aware of the message that sent, but I'm grateful my parents let me make my own choices. Plus limits like this are just begging for kids to find a way around them. I'd rather Addie feel comfortable embracing her sexuality and understanding how messages are portrayed by her choices than for me to create those limitations that will just be a source of teenage rebellion.

Making your own choices in high school is completely different than us choosing what goes on our children now when they have no say, imo. And I completely agree with embracing and understanding sexuality and messages that are sent, just not now. I also agree with limitations and being a source of rebellion. I don't make a big deal of it and I won't, if I don't want that stuff on her, she won't wear it. When she gets older and asks to wear something like that, then we'll talk about it then.

I do think that yes, designs-flowers, etc- are different than words, but I still don't particularly care for them. I gave away a pair of pants that had a heart on behind. I believe in letting kids be kids and not imprinting them early with anything that may be construed as sexual. Since that is the reason most of us adults wear anything like that is to bring attention to our hind-side. My opinion is just that-mine-not necessarily something that everyone will agree with.

And even now I'm not brave enough to wear stilettos, never mind the fact that can't walk in heels over 2.5 inches! Stick out tongue

sevans1975 · February 2011

fredalina:
MandJS:
Quazel:

I agree with you regarding the words. However, I don't mind ruffles or a flower that matches the outfit, etc. I guess I feel words=no, design=ok.

ITA

I do, too. I wouldn't put her in a string bikini now or ever, but a flower design on a conservatively cut pair of jeans doesn't bother me. and i'm not sure it would bother me when she's a teen, either. It would totally depend on the design. If it's "cute little girlish", fine. If it feels sexualizing, no. I also put her in tank tops and camis last summer (and will again) because she runs hot and it's frequently 100 degrees here in summer plus super humid. When she's a teen, camis will probably be out or at least I'll have her wear two and none low cut or high cut on bottom, but that's easy to explain. "Honey, when you were two, you didn't have breasts." Not that complicated to me.

I totally agree w/ what fred said. It isn't as though they are low-rise jeans or track pants on a toddler that says something suggestive on the arse. There's nothing overtly sexual about a flower design on the bottoms of toddler clothing.

sweetfern · February 2011

Cassie730:
roxstarrgirl:
aww, I think designs on the booty of babies or toddlers are so cute. DS has tons of them! Ducks, Monkeys, etc... Do you think other mothers give me the side eye for that?

If they do that makes them weird...not you. I put my BOY in pants with a Monkey on the butt and we have some with puppies...oh and one with a baseball too. If anyone is even thinking a Toddler or Babies Butt is inappropriate and looking at them that way they're the ones with the issue. It's a baby for goodness sakes. Just like I would never show pictures of my preteen/teen in a bathtub but it's NORMAL to take pics of babies/toddlers in the bath. Come on people there is a HUGE difference.

Yes, there is a huge difference and it is the people that prey on children and don't see the difference that I worry about. As a parent I feel that I am protecting her from being seen in that light by not putting something like that on her. I don't side eye anyone else for doing it; well, as long as their toddler's butt doesn't say 'juicy'. I don't care what anyone else puts on their kids, it is their decision.

sweetfern · February 2011

Cassie730:
sweetfern:
Cassie730:

roxstarrgirl:
aww, I think designs on the booty of babies or toddlers are so cute. DS has tons of them! Ducks, Monkeys, etc... Do you think other mothers give me the side eye for that?

If they do that makes them weird...not you. I put my BOY in pants with a Monkey on the butt and we have some with puppies...oh and one with a baseball too. If anyone is even thinking a Toddler or Babies Butt is inappropriate and looking at them that way they're the ones with the issue. It's a baby for goodness sakes. Just like I would never show pictures of my preteen/teen in a bathtub but it's NORMAL to take pics of babies/toddlers in the bath. Come on people there is a HUGE difference.

Yes, there is a huge difference and it is the people that prey on children and don't see the difference that I worry about. As a parent I feel that I am protecting her from being seen in that light by not putting something like that on her. I don't side eye anyone else for doing it; well, as long as their toddler's butt doesn't say 'juicy'. I don't care what anyone else puts on their kids, it is their decision.

I totally agree with you about not side eyeing other parents for their decisions. If you feel like you're protecting your child and doing what's best for her than that is commendable. However, I think perverts are perverts either way and if they're attracted to children they they are SICK and it has nothing to do with what you dress your child in. Long before the days of "Juicy" sweatpants there were perverted freaks starring down teenage girls. Unfortunately we can't rid the world of that problem.

Agreed 100%

Uiowachick01 · February 2011

Ovi wears pants and onesies with animals or sayings on the booty, and he's a boy!

WyoGal · February 2011

Wow, I can't think of a single time I've seen a toddler girl out and about in "sexualized" clothing (with the exception of a few "funny" shirts and those baby high heels I find distasteful) and I would have never in a million years connected a flower/mickey/duck/butterfly on toddler jeans/pants with adult "booty" pants that are sexualized with words or designs on them. Never ever. Are we talking about toddler jeans like this? https://www.kidswearhouse.net/i/Toddler%20Girl/PJTG-24127-BL.JPG

I can understand not liking characters on pants or the backsides of pants as a style thing (I'm picky about a few style things for M's clothes) but avoiding them because they're sexualized or could set the pattern for skanky dressing in teens comes across as paranoid and extreme to me. Maybe there are styles in-between that create a slippery slope effect that I'm missing, but I guess don't think the slope's as slippery as some do.

flippy1234 · February 2011

jenniferb123006:
I'm going to be different, but these kinds of pants don't bother me. Addie actually wore a sleeper with a bear head on the butt to DC today. I own several pair of pants with butt-writing myself (they are lounge pants). I'd rather discuss with Addie the kind of message she may be sending with her clothes and let her make her own choices, especially when she's a preteen or teenager.
FWIW, I'm a total nerd and massive prude (and always have been), but that didn't keep me from rocking a pair of skinny leg pleather pants, bright red halter, and stilettos at HS back in the day. Yes, I'm aware of the message that sent, but I'm grateful my parents let me make my own choices. Plus limits like this are just begging for kids to find a way around them. I'd rather Addie feel comfortable embracing her sexuality and understanding how messages are portrayed by her choices than for me to create those limitations that will just be a source of teenage rebellion.

This exactly.. just wait till all of you have teenagers in the house, its a totally different ballgame. Babies and toddlers are SO SO SO much easier.

that being said, I think my DD has a pair of pants that say I love mommy on them, and another with a kitty cat? or something sort of animal. Doesn't bother me.

lisa5201 · February 2011

I'm against anything that says "princess" or "diva" or whatever because I think it's tacky, whether on the front of the shirt on the butt or wherever. I actually can't stand "mommy loves me" or other saccharine dribble on children's clothing either, so that's just my taste in general, but to each their own.

However, a flower or monkey or whatever on the butt of children's clothing, IMO, is only sexualized if YOU make it sexualized. Halter tops and glitter are totally not my style so I would never buy those types of clothes in general, but I also think it's detrimental to make girls hyperaware of wearing something too sexy and turning something innocent into something shameful

My family lived in St. Martin until I was like 15 where it was totally normal for women and girls to swim topless. Boobs were body parts like arms and legs. When we were in the US, however, nudity was no longer innocent, even if it was, in fact, innocent.

What I'm trying to explain is that I agree, I think it's in poor taste to dress a toddler like a prostitute, but I think it's an equally slippery slope to turn a little butt flower into pornography

anna7602 · February 2011

I honestly never thought about it until I saw this post. I haven't ever bought DD pants with anything on the butt (at least not lately, maybe she had some ruffles as a baby?). This is mainly because she usually wears long tunics/dresses with leggings, so her butt is covered, not because I've ever made a conscious decision to buy or not buy flowered-butt design pants.

I think I would probably shy away from making a broad statement like "these are all ok" or "these are all inappropriate." I'd have to see the pants in question. Then again, I was in a tussle over on 12-24 the other day about painting little girls' toenails. I thought it was just a fun, rainy day thing to do with my daughter and it turns out that I am making her grow up before she's ready.

terri_doula2010 · February 2011

I agree there is a big difference between having a design or non-sexual word on your butt and wearing sexualized clothing, at any age. I can't imagine sexualized clothing for a baby and I really don't think I want to.

My son has an adorable pair of pants with a dinosaur print on the butt. Other stuff too, I'm sure. I think it is adorable.

I also agree that kids are going to rebel and you have to pick your battles. I remember my dad laying down very strict rules for me and so I would follow the rules til I was at the bus stop, then change my shirt, put on makeup, comb my hair the way "party girls" did, and even paint my fingernails, then remove the polish before I saw him again! I have no reason to assume my kids will be any different as far as wanting to rebel in some way.

someflower6 · February 2011

anna7602:

Then again, I was in a tussle over on 12-24 the other day about painting little girls' toenails. I thought it was just a fun, rainy day thing to do with my daughter and it turns out that I am making her grow up before she's ready.

i love that idea. when i was a little girl i loooooved when my mom would let me play with her jewelery and make up and all that stuff. it was *only* ok when mommy said it was ok and it was for inside play only, but it was something really special that i loved doing with her, and i still remember those times fondly. i'm super close to my mama.

LouiseB2001 · February 2011

lisa5201:
I'm against anything that says "princess" or "diva" or whatever because I think it's tacky, whether on the front of the shirt on the butt or wherever. I actually can't stand "mommy loves me" or other saccharine dribble on children's clothing either, so that's just my taste in general, but to each their own.
However, a flower or monkey or whatever on the butt of children's clothing, IMO, is only sexualized if YOU make it sexualized. Halter tops and glitter are totally not my style so I would never buy those types of clothes in general, but I also think it's detrimental to make girls hyperaware of wearing something too sexy and turning something innocent into something shameful

This. And like Anna I never thought about this before the post. I simply find these designs a bit cheap (in the non-sexual way) and mainly dress DD in practical solid colored clothes. Also being very liberal I cannot imagine banning DD from wearing specific clothes at any point, apart from the obvious too cold/too hot. I might have a chat with her about what her clothes mean but I am not of the 'dressing rules' type.

KateLouise · February 2011

I think that as a culture we have over sexualised our children, and while we need to teach our children to be safe, I think as adults WE over think them as sexual beings.

I put my LO in pants with ruffles on the bottom all the time. I draw people's attention to her bottom frequently in a, "look at that bottom." as she's crawling away type way.

I don't see it as sexual. I see it as no different to saying, "look at that smile."

My baby is cute in her babyness.

Would I say to adult men, "look at her bottom" when she's 15? No. But it's an entirely different situation.

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