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MFI ladies, were u told this or along these lines (vent)...

When we first got our Dx, my RE (at the time) looked right at us and said...

"Oh MFI---IVF w ICSI, ull have twins and you will never be back here".  I know he was sort of joking, but come on!?!?!?

After beta hell, a m/c, a d&c, and DH's situation getting worse....I really wish it wasn't downplayed to us.

I was soooo naive when we started this.  I miss a bit of that "blissful ignorance".  I have come to terms, that this is a different journey than I expected.  But enough already!!!!  When are any of us going to catch a break??

OK vent over, thanks for listening.

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Re: MFI ladies, were u told this or along these lines (vent)...

  • HUGS!  IF sucks!  I agree --- we all need to catch a break!!!
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  • I will be hearing these words soon I am sure. <hugs>. Sorry, they should learn to be sensitive by now don't you think?!
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    Dx: DH - Azoo, Me - Mild PCOS
    DH - sperm found! Seems to produce only for a few days every 70 days!
    Over 1 million in cryo in 15 vials over 6 samples
    IVF #1 - 1 beautiful expanded blast transferred, 4 snowbabies - beta #1 11/30/11 = BFFN
    FET #1, transfered 2 embies 2/16/12 = BFFN; 1 snowbaby left in cryo
    IVF #2 + CGH = 4 genetically normal embies on ice. FET September 26th
    SAIF/PAIF always welcome

    a special GL and prayers to my IF sister Gregermis

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  • Vanessa, we don't have MFI, but yes, I know what ur saying. I have heard what you said for MFI. Even my RE said MFI patients have a great chance of having a a take home baby. They just need forced fertilization...so I completely get what ur saying. Sorry. I hate this f***in IF roller coaster. I agree...ENOUGH ALREADY!!! ((HUGS))
    *SAIF* always welcome
    TTC since October 2007
    Dx with Unexplained IF
    IUI #1-3 w/clomid: Jan-March 2010...BFN
    IUI #4 w/injectables: April 2010...BFP
    1st u/s: 5/17-one little perfect hb@7w2d, 2nd u/s: 6/5-no hb@10w;
    missed miscarriage: 6/10 d&c
    IUI #5-7 w/injectables: Sept 2010-Jan 2011...BFFN
    IVF #1: Feb/March 2011...pretty please let this work!!!!

    Expecting twin boys!!!!! Pregnancy Ticker
  • Huge hugs on your latest news.  I hear you though.... IF and MFI is not fun.
    TTC #1 since October 2008. Dealing with MFI.
    IVF #1 w ICSI in July 2010 = BFN
    IVF #2.1 in Oct 2010 converted to IUI = BFN
    IVF #2.2 w ICSI in Dec 2010 = BFN
    Met with new RE in new city on 1/31/11.
    IVF #3 w ICSI in April 2011. HPT on 5/9 = BFP!
    Beta #1 on 5/10 (10dp5dt) = 99.4. Beta #2 on 5/12 = 284. First u/s on 5/26. = Fraternal TWINS!
    Twin boys born & lost on 8/16/11 at 18w1d due to PPROM & preterm labor.
    IVF #4.1 in Jan 2012 converted to IUI on 1/7/12 = BFN
    IVF #4.2 w ICSI in Feb 2012. Lupron on 2/10. Stims on 2/18. ER on 2/29- 7R,6F
    ET scheduled for 3/5/12- nothing to transfer :(
    Dh seeing new MFI uro & Dh starting meds- June 2012.
    IVF #5 in Dec 2012 = BFFN.
    IVF #6 planned for Spring 2013. Praying for our take home baby/ies.
    **P/SAIF and P/SAL always welcome!**

    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
  • sorry sweetie. this sh!t is so unfair. really, really unfair.

    i honestly do not understand how fertiles get KU so easily. we know too much, that blissful ignorance is gone :(

    ((HUGS))

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    When we first got our Dx, my RE (at the time) looked right at us and said...

    "Oh MFI---IVF w ICSI, ull have twins and you will never be back here".  I know he was sort of joking, but come on!?!?!?

    I think that some RE's downplay MFI b/c oh well you can ISCI, it is frustrating.  I don't think they usually do any additional testing unless you have NOA.  super frustrating

    After beta hell, a m/c, a d&c, and DH's situation getting worse....I really wish it wasn't downplayed to us.

    I was soooo naive when we started this.  I miss a bit of that "blissful ignorance".  I have come to terms, that this is a different journey than I expected.  But enough already!!!!  When are any of us going to catch a break??

    OK vent over, thanks for listening.

    we all need a break it fu*cken sucks

    ((((HUGS))))

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    Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, It empties today of its strength. ~Corrie ten Boom
    Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow. ~Mary Anne Radmacher (thank you beadinglady)

    It's been a long journey. TTC since 9/06. multiple IUI's and IVF's and 4 m/c's. IVF#3 = BFP, twins, induced at 34w6d due to baby b passing away (no explanation). Delivered on 35w1d, Baby A - baby girl, and Baby B - baby boy, our little angel.
    MTHFR A1298C & C677T, Immune Issues and Factor II
  • Oh yes, I miss it! I will never forget our first visit with RE... she said, "well, I can tell you that if I put all the couples that have been trying to conceive less than 5 years in one room, and couples ttc longer than five in the other,  we have better success rated with the ttc less than five years couples..." Ugh.
    ttc since 10-09 first visit with RE 09-10 ME-everything ok DH- AZOOSPERMIA...biopsy confirmed Sertoli Only Cell syndrome Donor IUI#4 was the charm (8-27-11) with 125iuFollistim/Ovidrel/Endometrin/PIO/vit D beta #1 9/8/11....BFP!!! : ) @ 47.7 beta...#2 9/15/11... 1,998 beta#3 9/22/2011- 27,900 Baby's hb seen @6w2d ! 1-3-2012 20 wk u/s everything lookin' good! Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
  • I hope you dont mind me replying!

    I felt this way with my first RE... he said "we will do IUIs with your clomid you have already been on and if we need to go to injectables we can, YOULL NEVER NEED IVF".

    Thank god I changed Drs because 7IUIs later I was completely out of hope. I had a BFN on IVF w/ICSI #1 and I wanted to go back there and tell him what I thought of him and his false hope. Just keep trying and dont give up. IVF#2 (frozen cycle) did it for us and I am so glad that I kept pushing and didnt let anything stop me.

    (((HUGS))) 

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  • I'm sorry hon. I saw your posts. I hope there is some weird reason the tests were off. I hope they still have your DH's sample just in case.

    It really sucks your RE downplayed it so much to you guys. IF really sucks.

    PAIF and SAIF Always Welcome!
    TTC since 2007
    6 IUIs, 3 IVFs, and 2 m/c :< PCOS, Blood Clotting Disorder & MFI
    IVF #2 Aug 2011 is a BFN:<
    IVF #3 March 2012 is a BFN
    Not sure what to do now. Sad and lost.
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
  • ((((((HUGS)))))) i sure wish we could all catch a break!!!!! 
    ::PAIF/SAIF Welcome::

    TTC since July 2008
    IUI 1,2,3 BFN
    IVF #1 C/P, FET 1,2,3 BFN
    IVF#2 BFP

    it's a girl!!

    Lilypie First Birthday tickers
  • (hugs)
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  • Yeah, we got a similar message -- all except the part about twins b/c they are all about the sET. Even though I knew nothing was guaranteed, I really couldn't believe that it wouldn't work. Seems stupid now. I am so sorry you're dealing with this. It's so unfair! Know that you're in our prayers. I hope you get some good news real soon. Big, big hugs!
    IVF #3 = Feb 2012
    beta#1 3/21 (14dp3dt)=413, beta#2 3/23 (16dp3dt)=785, u/s 4/11
    EDD 11/25/12
    **SAIFW** Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
  • I hear you, it's so unfair.  I haven't been able to try IVF yet but I'm afraid of the same thing, MFI totally sucks :(
    TTC since April 2010 - Me: 26, Hypothyroidism, no other issues - DH: 28, Severe MFI - IVF w/ ICSI in our future, trying to come up with the $20,000 first - OOP sucks :-P - * SAIF Always Welcome * Anniversary
  • So fcuking unfair. I kind of want to punch your RE in the face for saying that. (((((((HUGS)))))))
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    So fcuking unfair. I kind of want to punch your RE in the face for saying that. (((((((HUGS)))))))

    I guess my way of doing that, was leaving LOL.

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  • Yeah, I definitely think these doctors say stupid shiit about conceiving with MFI. I can't help but wonder about the quality of sperm our uro is so eager to use for ICSI. I'm scared we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.

    ugh, sorry, didn't mean to vent my own issues, just want you to know that I understand and I'm sorry. 

    sending you ::hugs:: and love

    TTC since April 2008

    Me: PCOS/Amenorrhea DH: Azoospermia due to Y Chromosome Micro Deletion IVF w/ ICSI on hold until further notice

    Hope

  • Our RE never promised us a take home baby - he really tried to keep our expectations realistic for the chance of finding sperm in the mTESE.  I did feel like we would eventually get one through IVF if we were able to find sperm!

    I remember when he called with my fert report for our first IVF.  He told me when to come  in for the transfer and that we'd transfer 2 embryos....I def wasn't prepared for there not to be any when we got there!

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  • I wasn't told this by my Dr. but I was naive enough to think this myself. Who would have thought I made crappy eggs?!? I haven't gotten results of IVF #1 but I'm not very hopeful w/ only putting one grade 2 back.
    After 3 years of infertility we were blessed with twin girls through private infant adoption.
    Forever our's October 17th 2012
    Lilypie Second Birthday tickers
  • We definitely got that from our first RE.  He told us that "his tail was wagging" because of my age.  When we got our S/A back, we were told, "no worries-IVF with ICSI will make it all better".  When we got the call that we were going to need to do the TESE two days before ER we felt like we were completely in the dark.  No one had EVER mentioned it.  Surprisingly our original RE never said anything-it was the RE covering for him from another clinic that brought it up.

    Our new RE has been very upfront of the success with using DH's sperm.  It was extremely helpful with us being able to move on to DS.  She does seem so hopeful with the DS IUI that it will work that it's hard to know what we should do if this one doesn't work. 

    We have a friend with MFI-and her first IVF and first FET failed, and the second IVF was a blighted ovum, so we knew that IVF with ICSI wasn't the answer-you are just so hopeful that you will be one of the lucky ones.

    From being on this board now for the past 7/8 months I've come to see that beautiful embies wind up with BFN's or m/c's, while not so great embies make babies.  There was one person that I thought for sure she would get a BFN because everything sounded behind, and she wound up with a BFP.  So who knows?  Sometimes the doctors don't really know-I sometimes think they give people higher rates of success.

     

     

     

    Lilypie First Birthday tickers
  • Big hugs! Vent all you need to. The situation sucks, no doubt!
    DX: Severe MFI 
    IVF # 1 ~ Antagonist ~ ER 1/27/11~ ET 1/30/11 ~ + HPT 7dp3dt 
    DD born med-free on 10/24/11 
    Lilypie - (lZjk)
    IVF # 2 ~Antagonist ~ ER 6/5/13 ~ ET 6/10/13 ~ + HPT 4dp5dt 
    Lilypie - (OUlo)

  • Oh V.....they don"t know what the hell they are talking about with MFI, IMO. I am convinced. We started IVF when I was 37 with known SEVERE MFI. I had decent eggs back then but everyone kept blaming my eggs. Cornell was the only place we went that investigated DH's issues and believed that was our problem.  Now my eggs are worthless and we wasted 3 years. We could have been doing PGD with what we know or DS. Now it's too late and we have to try DE + DS. Fact is...ICSI just doesn't work for everyone. DH and I are examples of that.

    What you are going through sucks and I am mad for you. We're here for you. (huge hugs)

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